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Old 03-18-04 | 05:53 PM
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Has anyone heard about the paperback release date? My wife was at Barnes and Noble today and asked one of the clerks there to look it up on her computer. She said it isn't scheduled for release until December of 2005! That is the tenative release date for his next book and they want to tie them together. I had recently seen a June 04 release date, so I'm not sure who to believe. You can get the paperback right now from England, so I find it hard to believe they will make us wait that long. But then again, I had a debate awhile back with someone about Brown being in no hurry to release a paperback version as long as the hardcover was still running a strong number one or two, but this seems excessive.
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Has anyone heard about the paperback release date? My wife was at Barnes and Noble today and asked one of the clerks there to look it up on her computer. She said it isn't scheduled for release until December of 2005! That is the tenative release date for his next book and they want to tie them together. I had recently seen a June 04 release date, so I'm not sure who to believe. You can get the paperback right now from England, so I find it hard to believe they will make us wait that long. But then again, I had a debate awhile back with someone about Brown being in no hurry to release a paperback version as long as the hardcover was still running a strong number one or two, but this seems excessive.
There's not a listing for the paperback on Amazon so I would guess there's no official date set yet.

As you said, publishers are not in a hurry when the hardcover stays so long on the bestseller list. The Bridges of Madison County took three years.
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QPB has a paperback out. When I joined, they had a deal where both Davinci Code and Angels & Demons (hardcover) counted as one book.
Old 03-19-04 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by gp98
QPB has a paperback out. When I joined, they had a deal where both Davinci Code and Angels & Demons (hardcover) counted as one book.
But that's a trade paperback, of course, and available new only through the club. I assumed Cedar was asking about a mass market paperback.
Old 03-19-04 | 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by gp98
QPB has a paperback out. When I joined, they had a deal where both Davinci Code and Angels & Demons (hardcover) counted as one book.
Agreed. That's why I specified that it was QPB....as opposed to saying "IT IS OUT!!!111"
Old 03-19-04 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cedar
Has anyone heard about the paperback release date? My wife was at Barnes and Noble today and asked one of the clerks there to look it up on her computer. She said it isn't scheduled for release until December of 2005! That is the tenative release date for his next book and they want to tie them together. I had recently seen a June 04 release date, so I'm not sure who to believe. You can get the paperback right now from England, so I find it hard to believe they will make us wait that long. But then again, I had a debate awhile back with someone about Brown being in no hurry to release a paperback version as long as the hardcover was still running a strong number one or two, but this seems excessive.
According to http://www.isbn.nu Ballantine Books will issue the mass market paperback in June 2004 with a cover price of $7.99. Books-A-Million has it up for pre-order

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/bo...pid=0345451511

However, it states on that page:

Doubleday is requesting that all accounts remove the mass market info for Da Vinci Code from their computers. We are removing it from our 832 feed, so it won't get fed back to you. Notified by Bridgett Binns on 8/19/03.

So I'm guessing the June date is out. And considering it's still #1 on Amazon most days and still in the top 10 across the country, they are in no rush to get the paperback out.
Old 03-19-04 | 05:52 PM
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Yeah Rexliver, isbn.com is where I got the June release date. Not sure where Barnes and Noble got their info, but if its accurate some may want to go ahead and order from overseas. Two and a half years from the original hardcover release is a long time to wait.
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Originally posted by Cedar
Yeah Rexliver, isbn.com is where I got the June release date. Not sure where Barnes and Noble got their info, but if its accurate some may want to go ahead and order from overseas. Two and a half years from the original hardcover release is a long time to wait.
I doubt it will be 2 and a half years. It will most likely be announced for paperback once the hardcover drops off the bestseller lists. I'm guessing they're ready to print it and distribute it and are just holding back so as not to cannibalize hardcover sales.
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I really enjoyed the book, and it got me wondering: How much of the book is (believed to be) fact and how much is fiction? Obviously the characters and their adventure is fiction, but about the grail/Opus Dei and all.

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Old 03-27-04 | 09:25 PM
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I really enjoyed the book, and it got me wondering: How much of the book is (believed to be) fact and how much is fiction? Obviously the characters and their adventure is fiction, but about the grail/Opus Dei and all.

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I haven't read the book, but I do know a few things about the various subjects:

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First, Da Vinci did not paint Mary Magdelene into "The Last Supper." The figure in question is John -- Da Vinci's notes and sketches pretty much confirm this... unless he was just trying to cover his tracks.

Second, the idea that Mary M. was Jesus' wife is nothing new, and the theory about Christ's bloodline being the "Holy Grail" are not ideas invented by Brown. The ideas have been around awhile, especially in regard to conspiracy theories. Ditto anything about the Knights Templar.
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Opus Dei is real too. That FBI guy who turned out to be a Russian spy (Richard Haas? Not sure of the name) was a member. Much of what he was, of course, in violation of his religious teachings, so it really shouldn't necessarily be a reflection on the sect, but it did bring them (unwanted) notoriety.

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I tend to doubt, however, that they are involved in plots to control the world.
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Spoiler:
First, Da Vinci did not paint Mary Magdelene into "The Last Supper." The figure in question is John -- Da Vinci's notes and sketches pretty much confirm this... unless he was just trying to cover his tracks.

Second, the idea that Mary M. was Jesus' wife is nothing new, and the theory about Christ's bloodline being the "Holy Grail" are not ideas invented by Brown. The ideas have been around awhile, especially in regard to conspiracy theories. Ditto anything about the Knights Templar.
Dan Brown has NEVER claimed to have "invented" any of that. He just presented it in a format that's more easily accessible and people liked it. I mean, even Langdon talks about other references in the book.
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Spoiler:
First, Da Vinci did not paint Mary Magdelene into "The Last Supper." The figure in question is John -- Da Vinci's notes and sketches pretty much confirm this... unless he was just trying to cover his tracks.
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Not to mention the fact that if the figure in question really was Mary Magdelene, there would only be 11 disciples in the painting.
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I found it interesting to here the Opus Dei reference in an episode of the Soprano's a couple weeks ago.
Old 04-06-04 | 06:10 AM
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Great book! Even though I'd heard a lot of hype before I opened it for the first time, I wasn't disappointed. VERY intriguing!
Old 04-06-04 | 11:34 PM
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Finally finished reading this tonight, after reading Angels and Demons a week ago. I thought Angels and Demons was better, but Da Vinci was also very good. I don't see how it can be construed as being anti-Catholic. Anyway, going to check out Deception Point next
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Finally finished reading this tonight, after reading Angels and Demons a week ago. I thought Angels and Demons was better, but Da Vinci was also very good. I don't see how it can be construed as being anti-Catholic. Anyway, going to check out Deception Point next
They're all pretty good (if somewhat similar in formula). I also thought Angels & Demons was better than The Da Vinci Code.
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I believe Deception point is his weakest book. I'd even suggest that you just go straight to Digital Fortress and leave DP for last.
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Da Vinci Code is a brisk read, with lots of interesting historical/art trivia, but the writing style and storytelling are pretty second-rate. It isn't difficult to stay two or three steps ahead of the plot at most points (the criminal mastermind might as well be wearing the proverbial sign around his neck). It's a good airport read, I guess, and I took a closer look at some Da Vinci paintings because of it, but it's certainly not on my list of favorite books.

Particularly annoying is the author's habit of over-explaining everything ("She realized with astonishment that the man in front of her was the man whose voice she had heard earlier on the phone!!!!" etc. Thanks professor!) I described it to a friend as "Dean Koontz channelling Umberto Eco."
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I was not crazy about this book. It was OK. I'm surprised it has been so highly praised. The writing style seems quite pedestrian and the overall story seems pretty formulaic. I know little about writing and critique. Those are merely my impressions.
It seems pretty clear that Brown has some sort of agenda at least against the Catholic church, if not Christianity in general. Has he discussed this at all? I've never read any of the interviews or articles about this book.
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I just finished Angels and Demons last night. I haven't read Da Vinci Code yet. I thought Angels and Demons was ok, but not great. I did enjoy all the historical things about Rome/Religion (though I'm not religious myself) though I don't know how much is real and how much is made up, but I guess it doesn't matter.

The thing that stopped this book from being great was that the way he wrote Langdon's character (as well as a few others) just annoyed the hell out of me. The way he was shocked/amazed/flabbergasted/speechless/etc at every little discovery got old extremely quickly. I just think the author went overboard with it and it just became ridiculous. I was waiting for Langdon to have an orgasm each time he saw a new Illuminati symbol.
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I just finished Angels and Demons last night. I haven't read Da Vinci Code yet. I thought Angels and Demons was ok, but not great. I did enjoy all the historical things about Rome/Religion (though I'm not religious myself) though I don't know how much is real and how much is made up, but I guess it doesn't matter.

The thing that stopped this book from being great was that the way he wrote Langdon's character (as well as a few others) just annoyed the hell out of me. The way he was shocked/amazed/flabbergasted/speechless/etc at every little discovery got old extremely quickly. I just think the author went overboard with it and it just became ridiculous. I was waiting for Langdon to have an orgasm each time he saw a new Illuminati symbol.
Yeah, it's not often that characters overact in a book but Davinci Code is more of the same. Still enjoyable but it does grate.
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ok now i really want to read this book. wheres the best deal online to buy it?
Old 05-19-04 | 11:58 PM
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anyone?
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I would recommend ebay, or half.com or amazon.com's used item/zshops. You should be able to get it for about $10 depending on shipping.

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