Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017
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Super Meat Boy is already backwards compatible, but Xcom is a new BC title.
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Ugh, already bought The Crew during a sale. Played it once. At least Goat Simulator is something I don't own. Super Meat Boy and X-Com were already PS Plus freebies.
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re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017
Brad Sams (of thurrott.com) is doing a live video right now (update: OVER). Of all the MS reporters out there, Thurrott/Sams are a pretty reliable team.
https://youtu.be/dze5fpnJbx8
He's claiming:
- XBox "Mini" is real (A discless version? Roku-style, maybe plays Windows Store games that are not hardware intensive. $100 or $175)
- 2 new "Xbox" models, including the above?
- a LARGER unit than the original (WTF? Is this the "Elite"?)
- 4K unit. Probably the one above. Not 4K gaming, but 4K video/upscaling.
- Xbox will be pitched as a "Platform" as we've kind of seen. Xbox/MediaCenter interface to go to PC.
- MS Dedicated to PC gaming, still ( they always say this)
- possible MAJOR Xbox hardware change in 2017. One person asked about "10 teraflops" and Brad said he could not comment on that number.
- Microsoft MIGHT allow for 3rd party "Xbox" systems. That sounds... interesting, but it'll turn into a dumpster fire.
(my thought, not his: Xbox discs working on PC, too, using the Xbox interface?)
Looks like that's it.
edit: Tom Warren (The Verge) says "New Xbox at E3 will be 40% smaller..."
https://youtu.be/dze5fpnJbx8
He's claiming:
- XBox "Mini" is real (A discless version? Roku-style, maybe plays Windows Store games that are not hardware intensive. $100 or $175)
- 2 new "Xbox" models, including the above?
- a LARGER unit than the original (WTF? Is this the "Elite"?)
- 4K unit. Probably the one above. Not 4K gaming, but 4K video/upscaling.
- Xbox will be pitched as a "Platform" as we've kind of seen. Xbox/MediaCenter interface to go to PC.
- MS Dedicated to PC gaming, still ( they always say this)
- possible MAJOR Xbox hardware change in 2017. One person asked about "10 teraflops" and Brad said he could not comment on that number.
- Microsoft MIGHT allow for 3rd party "Xbox" systems. That sounds... interesting, but it'll turn into a dumpster fire.
(my thought, not his: Xbox discs working on PC, too, using the Xbox interface?)
Looks like that's it.
edit: Tom Warren (The Verge) says "New Xbox at E3 will be 40% smaller..."
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re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017
A little more from Kotaku:
The 2017 Xbox, which is codenamed Scorpio, will have a more powerful GPU, according to three people familiar with this model, speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to speak about Microsoft’s plans. We hear that it will also be technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift and that Microsoft is pursuing a partnership with Oculus. As for 2016, sources have told us there’s at least a more compact version coming by year’s end. One source believed it will include a larger 2TB hard drive, double the capacity of the most spacious current model. We’re expecting Microsoft to announce the more compact machine at E3 next month. (Kotaku’s Jason Schreier and Kotaku UK’s Keza MacDonald both independently corroborated this information.)
We hear that the folks at Xbox have yet to finalize the specs for 2017’s Scorpio, although they briefed third-party publishers on the device during a secret event last week, according to a source.
Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/x...laystation-4/3
However, I could see "Xbox One Certified" PCs being made available that run compatible hardware, that are able to switch between Windows and an "Xbox Mode" that recreates the dedicated hardware VM that XB1 games need.
A little more from Kotaku:
Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms.
Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms.
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Xbox One games are not going to work on a general "PC," as they're tied to much to the specific hardware and it's performance (the 32MB eSRAM on the APU is one glaring example).
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/x...laystation-4/3
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/x...laystation-4/3
I wonder if these means the games will be the "forward compatible" titles such as rumored with the PS4K, where it's the same disc for both systems, but the newer system has specific features/improvements, or whether they mean they'll release two versions, like separate 360 and XB1 releases now.
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Same here, and I only got my Xbox One late last year. I mean to be frankly honest, I just got settled in. And heck it was just last Christmas when I got my 13 year old nephew an Xbox One for his present. We are not upgrading anytime soon and I have a feeling we are far from alone. So I have the feeling that this is going to kick MS and Sony in the butt. We shall see I guess.
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Same here, and I only got my Xbox One late last year. I mean to be frankly honest, I just got settled in. And heck it was just last Christmas when I got my 13 year old nephew an Xbox One for his present. We are not upgrading anytime soon and I have a feeling we are far from alone. So I have the feeling that this is going to kick MS and Sony in the butt. We shall see I guess.
The Playstation came out in 1995, the Playstation 2 came out in 2000.
The Xbox came out in 2001, the Xbox 360 came out in 2005.
The PS4 came out in 2013, so these new consoles need to wait until Fall of 2017 to keep in line, at the soonest. Of course making them go the "upgrade path" seems fair.. or something. I got nothing.
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There's people that upgrade their iPhone every year. Those people will buy the newer console, possibly selling off their old one, enlarging the market for used consoles.
Previously, as the generation went on, the only option was to go cheaper. Now both sides have an opportunity to sell at the "premium" price again, while still offering less expensive options. These upgraded consoles have to potential to both improve the manufacturer's profit margins and expand their overall console penetration.
It's not a guarantee, and there is the potential of alienating the existing customer base, but it's not necessarily fated to fail.
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I still think they could make it work if they had some trade in or upgrade path for existing customers. I would trade in either system (even though I don't have 4K yet) if it were a $100 deductible or something reasonable. But I'm not about to take a $200+ loss by going through Gamestop or something similar.
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I still think they could make it work if they had some trade in or upgrade path for existing customers. I would trade in either system (even though I don't have 4K yet) if it were a $100 deductible or something reasonable. But I'm not about to take a $200+ loss by going through Gamestop or something similar.
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There's plenty of people that haven't bought an XB1 or PS4 yet, including some who haven't upgraded from the previous generation yet. Maybe some felt that there weren't enough of an improvement, but the 4K and VR capabilities of the upgraded consoles could interest them enough to buy.
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Honestly even though I whined about it in that last post, I really don't care. I for one am fairly supportive of iterative models.
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My Xbox One won't read discs unless I hold the front end of it up while it reads the disc. So I would definitely buy this new Xbox One.
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I use the trick mentioned earlier in which I insert the disc and hang onto it while the drive tries to pull it in, then release it. I seem to have better luck that way.
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Ditto... and SUCH bullshit that we have to do that. When I sent mine in for repair, MS claimed it was working fine. My discs load about 25% of the time if I don't use that little delay mechanism you described.
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Heads-up : Week of 6/5-6/11 Best Buy will be giving $20 off ($25 off with GCU) one year of Xbox Live Gold. Really good deal at $35.
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I wonder if people will really go for the smaller hard drive just to save $20. I suppose they could just apply that to an $80 2TB external drive.
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In other news, the Wii U is exactly the same price as the day it launched!
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The Xbox One drop is great news, though. I think we're about to have the fourth one in our extended family. (Me and my wife, my kid brother in Charleston, one set of in-laws, and probably my father-in-law this summer. He's getting a knee replaced and will be immobile for a while, and Maggie and I thought that'd be a fun way to help him pass the time. Sorry, I get that no one cares. I'm just bored.)