Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
05-23-16, 09:01 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
I felt like Sansa was manipulating Jon a bit in the scene where they left Castle Black.
So Brienne is going back to the Riverlands. Hmm...
All of these lingering shots of Longclaw have made me wonder about House Mormont involvement and now if Jorah might be coming back to Westeros.
The ending of the episode messed me up a little.
So Brienne is going back to the Riverlands. Hmm...
All of these lingering shots of Longclaw have made me wonder about House Mormont involvement and now if Jorah might be coming back to Westeros.
The ending of the episode messed me up a little.
05-23-16, 09:01 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
Some really interesting speculation from a reddit user (not really spoilers, but spoilered anyway just in case):
Also, from the first book:
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Also, from the first book:
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05-23-16, 09:17 AM
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So all The Children are dead? because now that i think about it, the show never really got us to care about them at all (3 scenes between 2 seasons, besides showing them just scampering around?). and yet now they're the ones that brought about the white walkers? that part just fell flat for me.
Did you miss last week's dinner scene?
05-23-16, 09:26 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
Liked:
- Hodor, what a set up and delivery. I love moments that cause you to reflect back on the entire history of the character. How intelligent was he exactly? How much did he understand that he was heading to his doom?
- Varys looking rattled. He kept pushing even when Tyrion was trying to cut him off. Varys' ego finally got him in trouble. Very well played on both sides.
- Sansa and Littlefinger. Great to see Baelish squirm a bit for a change. Sansa probably should have had him killed, but who knows.
- The use of the same "ticking clock" score from "Hardhome" to signal the arrival of the zombie horde. Love that cue.
- The explanation of the White Walkers. I really like the idea of creating a weapon to save yourself that then becomes uncontrollable.
Didn't like as much:
- Arya's never ending training and questioning. Last week she drinks poison to demonstrate her will and this week she's right back to be questioned and beaten up? Move this forward, I beg you.
- Kingsmoot. Yara wasn't convincing and they've done very little to explain Euron's sudden appearance. The Iron Islands are seemingly just a plot device to get Dany home.
- Dany back to emoting and looking concerned. She's supposed to be this great conqueror, stop showing her as a girly girl.
- No inside the Tower of Joy scene. I guess they're going to drag that out a bit more.
- Hodor, what a set up and delivery. I love moments that cause you to reflect back on the entire history of the character. How intelligent was he exactly? How much did he understand that he was heading to his doom?
- Varys looking rattled. He kept pushing even when Tyrion was trying to cut him off. Varys' ego finally got him in trouble. Very well played on both sides.
- Sansa and Littlefinger. Great to see Baelish squirm a bit for a change. Sansa probably should have had him killed, but who knows.
- The use of the same "ticking clock" score from "Hardhome" to signal the arrival of the zombie horde. Love that cue.
- The explanation of the White Walkers. I really like the idea of creating a weapon to save yourself that then becomes uncontrollable.
Didn't like as much:
- Arya's never ending training and questioning. Last week she drinks poison to demonstrate her will and this week she's right back to be questioned and beaten up? Move this forward, I beg you.
- Kingsmoot. Yara wasn't convincing and they've done very little to explain Euron's sudden appearance. The Iron Islands are seemingly just a plot device to get Dany home.
- Dany back to emoting and looking concerned. She's supposed to be this great conqueror, stop showing her as a girly girl.
- No inside the Tower of Joy scene. I guess they're going to drag that out a bit more.
05-23-16, 09:44 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
Plus Littlefinger's life was actually on the line. That meeting could have easily ended differently for him. For once his grand scheming blew up in his face and it wasn't at the hands of Varys.
05-23-16, 09:53 AM
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I'm not sure there's not something more to Littlefinger's plan. That doesn't seem like him to have so grossly miscalculated. It also seems very strange to me that Blackfish has supposedly taken Riverrun, but we haven't heard any mention of it anywhere. The only guy who knows is somebody who's been up the in Vale?
I think he has something else in the works.
I think he has something else in the works.
05-23-16, 09:53 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
I do have to say, Bran was a fucking idiot for wandering by the whitewalkers by himself and letting the king touch him. But then if he never did that, there never would've been a Hodor...
05-23-16, 09:54 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
05-23-16, 10:06 AM
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what fcking sucks is hodor got turned into what he is by the person who he was dedicated to protect.
how many non-assholes are left on the show? Gendry? Pod? Hot Pie? Bianca?
05-23-16, 10:22 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
1. His search for a cure alone probably isn't interesting enough to film. Plus, assuming he does find a cure of some sort and is able to return to Dany (which is a probability), his return will be all that more dramatic if the audience doesn't know it is coming.
2. Unless he serves some other purpose, such as pointing the way to Dany for Yara/Theon or something like that. Presumably, Jorah will be heading back to one of the major coastal cities to try and find a cure for himself, so running into one of the Greyjoys doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
05-23-16, 10:24 AM
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So all The Children are dead? because now that i think about it, the show never really got us to care about them at all (3 scenes between 2 seasons, besides showing them just scampering around?). and yet now they're the ones that brought about the white walkers? that part just fell flat for me.
Did you miss last week's dinner scene?
Did you miss last week's dinner scene?
05-23-16, 10:45 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
I was disturbed, at least equally, by the death of the dire wolf.
Yeah, she is...
Why can't they go over the wall like the wildlings did?
Yeah, she is...
The cave was blocked by magic (or some mystical shit) and that was unlocked by the mark.
They, team white walkers, can't get past the wall (yet) because it's a big fcking wall, and no amount of warg diddling will help with that. Best it will do is let them know where bran is going. Maybe bran's gotta lose another limb to sever the connection
They, team white walkers, can't get past the wall (yet) because it's a big fcking wall, and no amount of warg diddling will help with that. Best it will do is let them know where bran is going. Maybe bran's gotta lose another limb to sever the connection
05-23-16, 10:49 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
The old man in the tree never made it clear that the people in his visions could interact with Bran. In fact he gave him the opposite impression.
05-23-16, 10:55 AM
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05-23-16, 10:55 AM
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A question I have about the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warging back to Winterfell in the past is why did they do that then?
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
05-23-16, 11:08 AM
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A question I have about the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warging back to Winterfell in the past is why did they do that then?
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
Three Eyed Raven? Is that Max Von Sydow's character? If so, he got killed. There's nothing to protect.
05-23-16, 11:12 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
A question I have about the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warging back to Winterfell in the past is why did they do that then?
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
They knew the White Walkers would now be coming and that they had no magic protection within the tree's cavern anymore, so what was so damned important about that past scene at Winterfell that they warged instead of getting out of the tree and running away before the White Walker army arrived?
(And if Bran left the tree, wouldn't the magic shield protecting it resume working and once again protecting the Three-Eyed Raven, given he couldn't leave?)
05-23-16, 11:14 AM
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She looks a lot like Rachel Weisz.
05-23-16, 11:20 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
But if Bran, Meera, Hodor, and Summer had started running IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Three-Eyed Raven told Bran that the White Walkers were coming because they were not protected anymore, then Hodor (Wylis) and Summer would probably still be alive.
Instead the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warged to Winterfell in the past to see some seemingly unimportant event (was there any importance to what they were seeing there?) which made them all sitting ducks in the tree when the White Walkers arrived.
05-23-16, 11:26 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S6E05) -- "The Door" -- 5/22/16
Yes, he's the Three-Eyed Raven and he couldn't physically leave the tree.
But if Bran, Meera, Hodor, and Summer had started running IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Three-Eyed Raven told Bran that the White Walkers were coming because they were not protected anymore, then Hodor (Wylis) and Summer would probably still be alive.
Instead the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warged to Winterfell in the past to see some seemingly unimportant event (was there any importance to what they were seeing there?) which made them all sitting ducks in the tree when the White Walkers arrived.
But if Bran, Meera, Hodor, and Summer had started running IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Three-Eyed Raven told Bran that the White Walkers were coming because they were not protected anymore, then Hodor (Wylis) and Summer would probably still be alive.
Instead the Three-Eyed Raven and Bran warged to Winterfell in the past to see some seemingly unimportant event (was there any importance to what they were seeing there?) which made them all sitting ducks in the tree when the White Walkers arrived.
I think the important event was seeing Hodor as a kid. That shit needed to happen to get to the point back in the real world. It's predestined. As someone already mentioned - it's 12 Monkeys all over again.