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Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
#426
Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
Yeah, the shitty '98 version sold more tickets, but 16 years later, we have a lot more things that can take up our free time. Twitter, Facebook, smart phones/tablets, etc. And lots of people will just wait for RedBox and rent it for a buck just to avoid the stupid teenagers using smart phones at the theater. WB/Legendary should make a profit after factoring in VOD/DVD/BD sales. It still hasn't opened in Japan or China, so that will give the foreign numbers a boost. I think it has a small chance at $500 mil worldwide, but it'll probably fall short.
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I didn't have problems with Godzilla's screentime so much; it's just that when he was offscreen, there wasn't enough compelling content to make the wait worthwhile. The movie just went dramatically limp after the first act, and never recovered.
And yes, you can say "But all Godzilla movies are like that!!" and you'd be somewhat wrong, but letting go of that for a second here was an opportunity to make something BETTER, more substantial, more compelling while not sacrificing any of the classic Godzilla/kaiju/monster movie tropes... and they blew it.
And yes, you can say "But all Godzilla movies are like that!!" and you'd be somewhat wrong, but letting go of that for a second here was an opportunity to make something BETTER, more substantial, more compelling while not sacrificing any of the classic Godzilla/kaiju/monster movie tropes... and they blew it.
#429
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Hey! In Pokémon movies, the human characters and the Pokémon carry equal weight. Ash and Pikachu are a team!
"Pokémon - it's you and me /
Pokémon - I know it's our destiny /
Pokémon - you're my best friend /
In a world we must defend /
Pokémon - our hearts so true /
Pokémon - our courage will pull us through /
You teach me and I'll teach you Po--ké--maaaahhnnnn /
Gotta catch 'em all, gotta catch 'em aaaallllll /
Pokémon!"
Can Godzilla say all that?
"Pokémon - it's you and me /
Pokémon - I know it's our destiny /
Pokémon - you're my best friend /
In a world we must defend /
Pokémon - our hearts so true /
Pokémon - our courage will pull us through /
You teach me and I'll teach you Po--ké--maaaahhnnnn /
Gotta catch 'em all, gotta catch 'em aaaallllll /
Pokémon!"
Can Godzilla say all that?
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Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
I didn't have problems with Godzilla's screentime so much; it's just that when he was offscreen, there wasn't enough compelling content to make the wait worthwhile. The movie just went dramatically limp after the first act, and never recovered.
And yes, you can say "But all Godzilla movies are like that!!" and you'd be somewhat wrong, but letting go of that for a second here was an opportunity to make something BETTER, more substantial, more compelling while not sacrificing any of the classic Godzilla/kaiju/monster movie tropes... and they blew it.
And yes, you can say "But all Godzilla movies are like that!!" and you'd be somewhat wrong, but letting go of that for a second here was an opportunity to make something BETTER, more substantial, more compelling while not sacrificing any of the classic Godzilla/kaiju/monster movie tropes... and they blew it.
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Here's why I disagree with this assessment:
If anything, the strength of those characters made the "monster" scenes even more potent. There wasn't a single moment during Godzilla that wouldn't have been improved by every character you were allegedly "supposed to care about" getting vaporized as fast as humanly possible.
Were my expectations too high? Assuredly. I really wanted something better, more substantial, and more compelling than what we were left with, which was a decisively mediocre Saturday afternoon monster flick. If you put it up against every other dopey kaiju flick ever made, it's alright. As big-budget studio fare, it's meandering at the level of your average Transformers sequel.
Were my expectations too high? Assuredly. I really wanted something better, more substantial, and more compelling than what we were left with, which was a decisively mediocre Saturday afternoon monster flick. If you put it up against every other dopey kaiju flick ever made, it's alright. As big-budget studio fare, it's meandering at the level of your average Transformers sequel.
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Here's why I disagree with this assessment:
If anything, the strength of those characters made the "monster" scenes even more potent. There wasn't a single moment during Godzilla that wouldn't have been improved by every character you were allegedly "supposed to care about" getting vaporized as fast as humanly possible.
Were my expectations too high? Assuredly. I really wanted something better, more substantial, and more compelling than what we were left with, which was a decisively mediocre Saturday afternoon monster flick. If you put it up against every other dopey kaiju flick ever made, it's alright. As big-budget studio fare, it's meandering at the level of your average Transformers sequel.
If anything, the strength of those characters made the "monster" scenes even more potent. There wasn't a single moment during Godzilla that wouldn't have been improved by every character you were allegedly "supposed to care about" getting vaporized as fast as humanly possible.
Were my expectations too high? Assuredly. I really wanted something better, more substantial, and more compelling than what we were left with, which was a decisively mediocre Saturday afternoon monster flick. If you put it up against every other dopey kaiju flick ever made, it's alright. As big-budget studio fare, it's meandering at the level of your average Transformers sequel.
Now, this isn't my favorite Godzilla film by any means but it's a ton better than any of the Transformers sequels and less insulting. They're just noise, bang, racist robots, noise, poopy/pee-pee joke. It's probably why I prefer this movie to them although I would enjoy a full movie about one of Godzilla's bowel movements.
#436
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Wow. Who knew that a Godzilla movie would be one of the most heavily-discussed films of all time?
#440
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Also, Cranston is cool but people are so in love with him it's getting boring. Fact is...He could've have been dropped too. Ken Watanabe could have...SHOULD HAVE... done both Cranston's and Kick Ass' roles and it would have been a nice homage to the Japanese. But no...as always...they HAVE to put a WHITE MALE in the role or else American/European viewers will have issues.
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For me, Godzilla.
Having watched both recently, PR has some great battles but, unfortunately, the rest of the film is just so damn stupid. I'm very aware of Godzilla's faults in the human department, but I felt more investment in the thin characters of that film than in those of PR, which were either cartoonish or insufferably bland. It is kind of hard to compare the two, though, since PR is an adolescent fantasy come to life, shooting a load every two minutes. Godzilla builds up to some incredible moments, allowing for greater impact than anything I saw in PR.
Having watched both recently, PR has some great battles but, unfortunately, the rest of the film is just so damn stupid. I'm very aware of Godzilla's faults in the human department, but I felt more investment in the thin characters of that film than in those of PR, which were either cartoonish or insufferably bland. It is kind of hard to compare the two, though, since PR is an adolescent fantasy come to life, shooting a load every two minutes. Godzilla builds up to some incredible moments, allowing for greater impact than anything I saw in PR.
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Godzilla, if nothing else because they kept the number of people in the cast relatively small for a disaster movie. Pacific Rim had a whole cast of characters I didn't care about.
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Godzilla for me. I like Pacific Rim a lot though, minus the two scientists and Ron Pearlman's character.
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I finally got around to seeing this last night and after reading this thread, I am very surprised at the dislike and\or disappointment of the movie. Personally, I prefer my blockbusters cheese-free and dark when possible and this ticked all of those boxes. I really don't understand the complaints about not seeing Big G enough. I thought the fights were just long enough personally and I liked the non-immediate reveal.
Pacific Rim? That was a few hairs better then a Michael Bay Transformer's movie and not much more. I am not sure what was cheesier; the acting\dialogue of Jax and Clay or these two:
Pacific Rim? That was a few hairs better then a Michael Bay Transformer's movie and not much more. I am not sure what was cheesier; the acting\dialogue of Jax and Clay or these two:
#450
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I saw Pacific Rim on cable the other night and thought it stunk. WAY too much fighting among the humans when they need to be coming together, the idea of 2 pilots in the robot working in sync was stupid and a dumb idea, and the constant throwing around of "kaiju" made it feel like they were trying to be too clever by half.