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Old 07-21-14, 12:35 PM   #101
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Well, that sucks. That brings me up to five shows I'm stopping buying, including It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The League, Wilfred & Louie.
The League Season 5 will have a blu ray release

http://www.amazon.com/The-League-Sea...rds=The+league
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Old 07-21-14, 04:24 PM   #102
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The League Season 5 will have a blu ray release

http://www.amazon.com/The-League-Sea...rds=The+league
I doubt it, but we'll see. They've got placeholders up for blu-rays of the other four shows as well, but nothing's been announced and the DVD versions are out for Wilfred & Louie. Since they're doing MoD for some of these Fox shows, maybe they're taking preorders to report back if they get enough to make Blu-ray versions viable.
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Old 07-21-14, 04:27 PM   #103
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Yeah, Amazon has a placeholder for Hawaii Five-0 as well but I spoke with a PR rep working on Paramount TV titles and for w/e reason, season four is not, at this time, getting a Blu-ray release. I also checked Paramount's press site and there is no mention of a Blu-ray release, only DVD.
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Old 07-21-14, 04:28 PM   #104
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Despite its (inexplicable) huge popularity, NCIS has abysmal production values. HD broadcasts look like they were shot on 8mm film with thick goops of Vaseline smeared over the camera lens.

This would not be a very good candidate for Blu-ray.
Well, it's not a good candidate for Blu-ray because it skews older.
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Old 07-21-14, 05:14 PM   #105
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I'm glad to see American Horror Story: Coven is coming out on blu-ray.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14525
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Old 07-21-14, 05:54 PM   #106
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I think expecting anything from television beyond fantasy and sci-fi is going to end in disappointment. This is a move away from packaged media for the studio. I shudder to think if this is just the initial foray into sweeping changes for Blu-ray by the studio.
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Old 07-21-14, 06:12 PM   #107
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Yeah, Amazon has a placeholder for Hawaii Five-0 as well but I spoke with a PR rep working on Paramount TV titles and for w/e reason, season four is not, at this time, getting a Blu-ray release. I also checked Paramount's press site and there is no mention of a Blu-ray release, only DVD.
I'm not that surprised that H50 will get a DVD only release for its 4th season. I'm betting the season 3 set was a poor seller due to its high price and since the majority of CBS TV shows get DVD only releases anyways, they probably wanted to save money.
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Old 07-21-14, 11:03 PM   #108
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I think expecting anything from television beyond fantasy and sci-fi is going to end in disappointment. This is a move away from packaged media for the studio. I shudder to think if this is just the initial foray into sweeping changes for Blu-ray by the studio.
It's a reasonable theory based on the evidence though, however disquieting.
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The League Season 5 will have a blu ray release

http://www.amazon.com/The-League-Sea...rds=The+league
See post 50 and 51 in this thread.

That's still a placeholder from when the titles were unofficially announced.
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Old 07-22-14, 12:09 AM   #110
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Amazon placeholders mean nothing except that Amazon will share the data with the studio on how many times it gets viewed or signed up for.
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Old 07-22-14, 05:13 AM   #111
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Amazon placeholders mean nothing except that Amazon will share the data with the studio on how many times it gets viewed or signed up for.
Wonder how much the movie companies are paying amazon for such advanced placeholder data. (Either directly and/or as a quid pro quo).
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Old 07-22-14, 05:19 AM   #112
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I think expecting anything from television beyond fantasy and sci-fi is going to end in disappointment.
Wonder if horror (or horror-lite) can also be lumped into the category of viable bluray tv shows. (Such as AHS, Bates Motel, From Dusk Till Dawn, etc ...).
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Old 07-22-14, 05:25 AM   #113
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This is a move away from packaged media for the studio. I shudder to think if this is just the initial foray into sweeping changes for Blu-ray by the studio.
What would be other sweeping changes, besides dumping tv shows and/or outsourcing to third party companies (such as Twilight Time, etc ...)?
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Old 07-22-14, 08:58 AM   #114
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Sons of Anarchy is one of FX's most popular shows.

Season 6 is getting a BD release on August 26th.

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I can 100% guarantee you that season 7 is getting one too, especially since it's the final season. No need to even speculate on that one.
In addition.

In principle it also gives Fox the opportunity to eventually produce a complete series bluray set with special exclusive limited edition packaging (such as what Sony did for Breaking Bad with the barrel).
Special packaging for SoA complete series set.

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Sons-An...tors-Set/20079
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What would be other sweeping changes, besides dumping tv shows and/or outsourcing to third party companies (such as Twilight Time, etc ...)?
Television shows were always the most vulnerable content to getting shifted completely towards digital streaming. Most people view it as disposable entertainment and most shows have a limited shelf life with mainstream consumers.

I think we will see more and more licensing deals in the future for physical releases to outside parties.
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Old 07-22-14, 03:52 PM   #116
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I think we will see more and more licensing deals in the future for physical releases to outside parties.
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Old 07-22-14, 04:40 PM   #117
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Mill Creek to the rescue!
Mill Creek also gave up on releasing the rest of "That 70's Show" on blu-ray. They quit after the second season.
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Television shows were always the most vulnerable content to getting shifted completely towards digital streaming. Most people view it as disposable entertainment and most shows have a limited shelf life with mainstream consumers.
I was pretty surprised when TV shows on DVD (referred to by many as "TV On DVD", as if that was some sort of super-special technology) became popular in general. Since it was "disposable entertainment" to many, it was odd that so many of them would spend around $30 for box sets of it. There were plenty of current shows that I bought however, rather than enduring them through the unwatchable mess that network TV had become, with logos always onscreen and excessive commercials. Usually just watching one disc's worth of episodes, I avoided what would have been an hour's worth of commercials!

I can see how shows on Netflix would eat into disc sales as long as they stay on there for a while, but prices for buying brand-new episodes on Vudu or Amazon are ridiculous. Most shows there cost $2.99 per episode, and "Season passes" cost $30 and up- if I spend that much on anything, I want it on actual media. (And they STILL can't get the frame rate right on video-based material- I've seen it done on a few apps on my Roku so I know it's possible, but the big players can't seem to do it!)
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For a while when the DVD market was at its peak, I think a lot of it was the novelty value of it: shows you hadn't seen in years which weren't being rerun anywhere were getting releases. Now you can do that with digital, and since it's "disposable" and you'll likely only watch it once, there isn't any reason to own it. Obviously, newer shows have much more reason to be on Blu (having HD masters anyways), but given how few are, it clearly isn't something distributors feel the market justifies.
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Old 07-23-14, 02:32 AM   #120
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I guess I'm one of the last hold-outs: I don't "stream", I don't "Netflix" and I certainly do not "VuDu"!
I'm a die-hard disc buyer. All of the recent DVD only announcements from FOX have been very depressing, but I'll just wind up switching to the DVD sets (for as long as they're offered, anyway).

One small light at the end of the tunnel: there's always international! "The Killing" seasons 2 & 3 are getting released in the UK (they also released "Chicago Fire"). And with recent releases of "Suits", "Battlestar Galactica", "Eureka" and "House" (in full season sets, no less) hopefully more are on the way.
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Old 07-23-14, 05:04 AM   #121
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I guess I'm one of the last hold-outs: I don't "stream", I don't "Netflix" and I certainly do not "VuDu"!
I'm a die-hard disc buyer. All of the recent DVD only announcements from FOX have been very depressing, but I'll just wind up switching to the DVD sets (for as long as they're offered, anyway).
You're not the only one.

Over the last year or so, I haven't streamed much of anything. Presently I don't have Netflix or even any premium cable channels.


Though I've cut back somewhat on buying new dvd season sets, largely due to my huge backlog of unwatched dvd tv season sets which I'm making my way through.

There's many recent shows I want to watch, but have turned down buying any of the dvd (or bluray) sets, due to my unwatched backlog and a lack of time. For example, shows like: In Plain Sight, Rizzoli and Isles, The Good Wife, Supernatural, Scandal, etc .. and later season of NCIS: LA, Bones, CSI, Law & Order SVU, etc ...
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My guess is most new shows, which are shot in HD and probably the easiest and most likely to be released on Blu Ray, don't sell that well because people can easily watch them on Demand or buy them/stream them? maybe?
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For a while when the DVD market was at its peak, I think a lot of it was the novelty value of it: shows you hadn't seen in years which weren't being rerun anywhere were getting releases.
When I started buying a lot of dvds/blurays in 2011, it was definitely for the novelty value. (Simultaneously also going through a midlife crisis). Prior to 2011, I had very little to no interest in dvd/bluray.

I ended up buying a lot of late-1970's and 1980's shows I use to watch when I younger, such as: The A-Team, Magnum PI, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Miami Vice, Airwolf, Charlie's Angels, Dukes of Hazzard, etc ... as well as many sci-fi/fantasy shows I completely missed during the 1990's and 2000's, such as: Babylon 5, X-Files, Andromeda, the revived Battlestar Galactica, the Stargate franchise, etc ... (I have a large 20-year gap from the late-1980's to the mid-late 2000's, where I was largely clueless and ignorant of then-current television and movies).

After about a year or so of buying so many dvd tv season sets, I came to the realization it was taking a long time to finish watching through these dvd sets. So I pretty much hit the tv on dvd "fatigue phase" by the middle of 2013. No point in buying more tv shows, just to end up collecting dust on my bookshelves.


I wouldn't be surprised if others hit the "fatigue phase" back in the mid/late 2000's, in a similar manner. (ie. Coinciding with the movie companies starting to release tv shows on bluray).
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When I started buying a lot of dvds/blurays in 2011, it was definitely for the novelty value. (Simultaneously also going through a midlife crisis). Prior to 2011, I had very little to no interest in dvd/bluray.

I ended up buying a lot of late-1970's and 1980's shows I use to watch when I younger, such as: The A-Team, Magnum PI, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Miami Vice, Airwolf, Charlie's Angels, Dukes of Hazzard, etc ... as well as many sci-fi/fantasy shows I completely missed during the 1990's and 2000's, such as: Babylon 5, X-Files, Andromeda, the revived Battlestar Galactica, the Stargate franchise, etc ... (I have a large 20-year gap from the late-1980's to the mid-late 2000's, where I was largely clueless and ignorant of then-current television and movies).

After about a year or so of buying so many dvd tv season sets, I came to the realization it was taking a long time to finish watching through these dvd sets. So I pretty much hit the tv on dvd "fatigue phase" by the middle of 2013. No point in buying more tv shows, just to end up collecting dust on my bookshelves.


I wouldn't be surprised if others hit the "fatigue phase" back in the mid/late 2000's, in a similar manner. (ie. Coinciding with the movie companies starting to release tv shows on bluray).

Me too, although I hit DVD tv set fatigue years ago, and only have two complete sets of tv shows that I will not part with. Hunter and X-Files. That's it. Outside of that I'll usually watch YV shows and then move on. Nowadays I rarely watch a tv series run more than once and if I must then I stream via Netflix or Amazon. This is just for TV shows. I also hit Blu-ray fatigue in general after this thread first appeared. Changed my life.

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I also hit Blu-ray fatigue in general after this thread first appeared. Changed my life.

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I haven't reached a "fatigue phase" yet when it comes to bluray. In my case it is probably more "attrition" than "fatigue".

This may sound strange, but I find that restricting my purchases primarily to bluray, actually controls my ocd compulsive collecting/hoarding habits quite effectively. (I'm mainly into tv shows, and don't have as much interest in movies).

Over the last year or so, I didn't bother buying a then-new tv show if it was not released on bluray starting from the first season. I'll only continue buying the dvd season sets of current tv shows, if I already have some previous seasons and I still follow the show closely. This is the main reason why I haven't bothered buying any season sets of shows I watch semi-regularly like: NCIS, Elementary, Castle, Blue Bloods, Unforgettable, Motive, Bones, etc ... (ie. Avoid jumping onto the "treadmill" altogether from the very beginning).

At the present time with all these self-imposed "mind tricks" on myself, there's only two ongoing tv shows I still buy: "Person of Interest" (bluray) and "House of Lies" (dvd).
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