junglalien

missing audio too

SuckaMC

I'll be the guy to say I remember seeing this the theater and will call bullshit on the bluray. Bens arrival is definitely during the day. There's actually a small montage of the change to nighttime, I believe just before Ben tries the phone. Im glad I didn't this, I would have been pissed. I seem to remember reading or hearing Savini stating that he wanted it liked having some of the terror happen during the day.

junglalien

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Josh-da-man

What the fuck? That shit looks fucking awful. It makes Echo Bride look like Criterion.

mhanlen1

Is this for real? I've seen the screencaps, but can a few more DVD Talkers weigh in? I'd like to see a few more user reviews. I hate to say, but this is why I said a page or two back why I never buy a Blu-ray without seeing screencaps first. I really hope this teaches some people a lesson.

NoirFan

^
Well, in this case, you couldn't wait on the screencaps. Regardless of the results, it seems like no one at TT actually watched the actual transfer. If this was the version Savini wanted, why not announce that in advance, or even now? Much of the brewhaha could have been avoided or at least minimized. They should know by now how obsessive (irrationally or otherwise) horror fans are.

riotinmyskull

yeeesh. glad i didn't upgrade this. don't fuck up CHRISTINE twilight time.

NoirFan

There's no reason to think they would - other than Demetrius and perhaps one or two others, their transfers have ranged from very good to superb.

SuckaMC

quoting myself, but damn I'm glad I went this route. The HDX version is consistent with my memories of the theatrical film.

What blows me away is that some folks at blu-ray.com are saying that they like the altered film and it adds to the atmosphere of it! What?! Smh.

mhanlen1

Well, I almost bought the thing- I'm glad I didn't. I guess- and I'll say it despite the fact I may catch flack for it- all those people who bought multiple copies for the intent of selling it ruin it for people who want to be more careful when choosing where to spend their money. I'm for capitalism as much as the next guy, but part of the reason this sold out so quick was because of the potential scalping of the title. Twilight Time blu-rays are expensive enough as it is- especially for mostly bare bones editions, and now fans are potentially going to have to buy a disc sight unseen- because of the flippers? I find that pretty irritating.

While the thought entered my head to pre-order a disc of unknown quality- just so I could avoid paying an outrageous price down the road. You can be assured that it won't ever again. Even Criterion fucks things up from time to time, not much- but it happens. And to take this tangent, at least we get more for our money- and most Criterions can still be had for less than a Twilight Time disc if you're a smart shopper.

Pizza

I heard the car is now green.

Pizza

The difference is dramatic from DVD to blu-ray though the video and screen caps look darker than what I watched on my TV. If you're used to the DVD version and accept it as the official look (and no reason not too) of the film, you'll hate this. I generally don't like revisionist history but I do prefer this color scheme and if they offer an exchange later on I'll keep my disc. If nothing else, if Sony were to release this title down the road and fix the look, at least there'd be a distinct difference between it and the TT version. Didn't Halloween have a release that altered the color?

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi

If the option is to see the movie on DVD compared to dark blobs on BR, I'll keep my DVD and never open and sell off my BR. To late to cancel it now.

Match

I read this from Twilight Time DVD Label's Facebook page:

junglalien

NoirFan

I actually prefer the darker tint - I had always thought the film's bright, bland, atmosphere-free look was horrible and completely inappropriate for the material.

islandclaws

Holy shit! Looks like I'll be selling off my sealed copy, assuming anyone wants it now.

Honestly, I've been watching this film on VHS and DVD since it came out, and I'm completely accustomed to the color scheme. The Blu-ray looks terrible; far too dark and murky. I don't think it adds anything, and for me it detracts from the picture.

Really lame, TT. I like this company less and less...

NoirFan

Other than the high prices, they've been doing some wonderful work. I highly doubt neglected masterpieces like Rapture or Swamp Water would ever have seen the light of HD day otherwise.

Superdaddy

Rapture is one heck of a great film. Like many others I had never heard of it but decided to take a chance on it due to the word of mouth. Incredible performances all around, but Gozzi is so good she's almost otherworldly.

I like Swamp Water quite a lot too. Glad to have them both.

NoirFan

Agreed - it was actually painful to watch her at times.

Why So Blu?

Holy crap! I totally doubt that Savini approved this. There's a make-up interview out there where he talks about how much research he did on the make-ups by visiting autopsies and funeral homes to check out how people look when they're dead. He talked about the yellow tint that the flesh gets (like jaundice) and how the skin tightens back in - it pulls down a bit, too. Looking at that print - the dark one - looks like all of his research went to shit if he in fact approved this print. It makes no sense, because you can't even see the make-ups. That seemed to be the whole point.

islandclaws

See, I don't believe that. Quality A/V work aside - which should be a given considering their prices - they don't do enough to make their releases attractive. Imagine if NOTLD '90 had been given the same treatment as a Scream Factory release, minus the extra supplements. TT could include original key art, reversible covers, anything really.

I just don't see the kind of care going into their work that other niche labels put in. They appear to put in just enough effort to deliver a good product, but nothing above that. For $35 a pop, I want great.

Neil M.

I'm glad to see TT respond quickly about the matter. Hopefully, Sony made a mistake and they will correct it.

mhanlen1

I agree. I mean couldn't they at least number their discs or maybe get a different case- sort of like Criterion? I think if they enhanced the release by packaging and appearance alone- it would really go a long way. I mean I guess this sounds sort of nit-picky. I understand laserdiscs used to cost an arm and a leg- but they were a very niche format- and I wouldn't have been able to afford them.

Pizza

Right. It fits it better. It is "night" of the living dead.
In all fairness, If all I saw we're these screen captures I'd be scratching my head in amazement too. I watched the disc and preferred it. But I haven't watched my DVD repeatedly so I didn't have a preconceived idea how it should look. At least TT is offering refunds for those who are not happy. After talking with Sony maybe they'll do more. That's more than fair.