Blu-ray and DVD sales - We're number 2, but we try harder
12-01-15, 05:10 PM
#3428
DVD Talk Legend
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Everybody was waiting for the Black Friday sales.
I didn't bother this year, were there any good Blu deals of note? (Besides the Criterion sale).
I didn't bother this year, were there any good Blu deals of note? (Besides the Criterion sale).
12-01-15, 07:45 PM
#3429
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Amazon made it quite clear they don't consider media sales a good way to drive traffic anymore, so that was disappointing. In better news, Walmart and Best Buy had reasonably strong Black Friday line-ups.
12-08-15, 04:57 PM
#3431
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
While down YOY, both DVD and Blu sold significantly more than the week before, so there was still some interest.
12-08-15, 05:05 PM
#3432
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Well it was Black Friday week, so that's to be expected. BF week is one of the biggest selling weeks of the year (along with the two weeks right before Xmas).
12-08-15, 05:12 PM
#3433
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Not at my house. Everything I wanted from either of those was available from Amazon for the same, or less. I spent ~$50 this year on media - down from ~$200+ last year. All had lots of offerings but nothing in which I was interested, partly because it was mostly repeats of prior years and partly because it was newer product at still too high prices.
12-08-15, 07:03 PM
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Sure, but that's because Amazon price-matched them. Amazon's Blu-ray/DVD deals were almost entirely lifted from what Best Buy and Walmart were offering. It was the same with video games too, only adding Gamestop into the price-matching fray. Amazon is a price-follower rather than a price-leader these days.
12-16-15, 02:23 PM
#3436
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Sure, but that's because Amazon price-matched them. Amazon's Blu-ray/DVD deals were almost entirely lifted from what Best Buy and Walmart were offering. It was the same with video games too, only adding Gamestop into the price-matching fray. Amazon is a price-follower rather than a price-leader these days.
12-16-15, 02:57 PM
#3437
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
At the closest offline bricks-n-mortar Wallyworld, they don't always carry every dvd/bluray I might be interested in. At the Wallyworlds further away into town, some of them have a slightly bigger/better selection. But most of the time, it's not really worth the gas and trouble to drive into town for. (ie. Better selection of dump bin dvd or bluray titles).
Also I keep a mental tab of dvd/bluray titles I might be interested in, so that I can do large enough amazon orders to get free shipping.
I don't bother using their web sites at all these days.
12-16-15, 03:09 PM
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Amazon's compulsion to price match other retailers but to hide them behind time-sensitive Lightning Deals in extremely limited quantities is a dealbreaker for me. It was easier for me to just order something from bestbuy.com than it was to make sure I had my phone in-hand at 2:58 PM, counting down the seconds until a Lightning Deal started at 3, only to find that it sold out before the page could finish reloading.
I did take advantage of some of the price matches that Amazon offered, but I wish they'd originate more deals and not rely so heavily on price matches.
I feel like bestbuy.com has gotten a lot better, although Walmart.com remains a disaster.
I did take advantage of some of the price matches that Amazon offered, but I wish they'd originate more deals and not rely so heavily on price matches.
I feel like bestbuy.com has gotten a lot better, although Walmart.com remains a disaster.
12-16-15, 03:26 PM
#3439
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Yeah, I thought Best Buy was fantastic this year. The stuff I ordered from their Elite sale arrived before the Black Friday sale. And even the stuff I ordered that Thursday arrived early the next week. Their shipping was fast and I didn't have issues with their site once. And unlike Amazon and their bullshit 5 second Lightning Deals, most of the stuff at Best Buy was in stock for most of the time. If it did go out of stock, there was a good chance it would come back in stock throughout the sale. Both Best Buy stores I stopped in at that weekend also had plenty of the Black Friday items as well.
12-22-15, 06:45 PM
#3441
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Amazon's compulsion to price match other retailers but to hide them behind time-sensitive Lightning Deals in extremely limited quantities is a dealbreaker for me. It was easier for me to just order something from bestbuy.com than it was to make sure I had my phone in-hand at 2:58 PM, counting down the seconds until a Lightning Deal started at 3, only to find that it sold out before the page could finish reloading.
I did take advantage of some of the price matches that Amazon offered, but I wish they'd originate more deals and not rely so heavily on price matches.
I feel like bestbuy.com has gotten a lot better, although Walmart.com remains a disaster.
I did take advantage of some of the price matches that Amazon offered, but I wish they'd originate more deals and not rely so heavily on price matches.
I feel like bestbuy.com has gotten a lot better, although Walmart.com remains a disaster.
The real winner this year for me was...Amazon.ca as they had two titles that I have been itching to get. Absolutely amazing service, as I just ordered TWD S5 LE for $59 shipped, and I got it today. That's quicker than Prime Shipping! I ordered it yesterday.
Also ordered Lawrence Of Arabia Collector's Edition for only $29 shipped, and probably will get that pretty soon as well.
I might be shopping more at Amazon.ca.
Blu-ray sales were barely noticeable, and no kidding. Maybe if we had more retailers providing ACTUAL DEALS the consumer would buy more. The titles offered this year overall were pathetic.
12-22-15, 08:37 PM
#3442
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I noticed the Disney Channel movie "The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar" is only coming out on DVD. Not a major title but I was expecting a blu-ray release also. Although it looks like the DVD release has a digital HD copy code according to the pic on Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-lion...&skuId=4829200
12-22-15, 09:26 PM
#3443
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
I noticed the Disney Channel movie "The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar" is only coming out on DVD. Not a major title but I was expecting a blu-ray release also. Although it looks like the DVD release has a digital HD copy code according to the pic on Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-lion...&skuId=4829200
For example, The Asylum has hardly released any of their current 2015 movies on bluray in america. Their only 2015 title released on bluray in america, is Sharknado 3. (Some of The Asylum's 2015 titles were released on bluray in Germany).
12-22-15, 09:36 PM
#3444
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I noticed the Disney Channel movie "The Lion Guard: Return of the Roar" is only coming out on DVD. Not a major title but I was expecting a blu-ray release also. Although it looks like the DVD release has a digital HD copy code according to the pic on Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-lion...&skuId=4829200
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12-22-15, 09:46 PM
#3445
12-23-15, 08:08 PM
#3446
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re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Updated thru week ending 12/12/15
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.
Weekly figures are from HMM (Home Media Magazine)
Code:
Week Date OD OD YoY DVD DVD YoY BD BD YoY BD Share TBO2015 TBO2014 2015 HMM 5285.96 -13.0% 3540.35 -15.3% 1745.65 -8.2% 33.0% 9917.1 10053.0 Q4 HMM 1454.65 -7.9% 905.45 -15.3% 549.22 7.8% 37.8% 2676.2 2744.8 49 12/12 215.99 -13.0% 128.33 -20.5% 87.66 1.0% 40.6 % 532.3 410.0 48 12/5 167.01 -17.8% 108.97 -21.9% 58.04 -8.9% 34.8 % 19.5 291.0 47 11/28 292.88 -11.2% 191.68 -15.3% 101.20 -2.3% 34.6 % 87.9 165.5 46 11/21 101.56 -21.3% 66.89 -26.6% 34.68 -8.4% 34.1 % 52.6 324.7 45 11/14 109.57 -20.8% 69.83 -22.8% 39.74 -17.1% 36.3 % 230.6 391.6 44 11/7 127.41 -1.2% 77.03 -7.4% 50.38 10.2% 39.5 % 419.7 408.6 43 10/31 101.99 14.7% 65.10 -2.2% 36.90 65.0% 36.2 % 217.9 65.1 42 10/24 132.34 41.4% 68.00 1.9% 64.34 139.6% 48.6 % 697.0 157.5 41 10/17 106.67 -5.0% 63.65 -12.6% 43.02 9.2% 40.3 % 290.2 347.5 40 10/10 99.23 -6.7% 65.97 -7.0% 33.26 -6.2% 33.5 % 128.4 183.4 Q3 HMM 1147.35 -13.2% 793.83 -15.3% 353.52 -8.1% 30.8% 2299.4 2295.6 39 10/3 115.56 1.4% 71.34 -3.4% 44.22 10.3% 38.3 % 650.1 278.5 38 9/26 94.73 -2.5% 61.87 -11.4% 32.86 20.1% 34.7 % 184.7 156.0 37 9/19 120.04 -0.2% 69.38 -14.0% 50.66 28.0% 42.2 % 582.4 391.7 36 9/12 79.80 -28.5% 58.35 -20.4% 21.45 -44.0% 26.9 % 43.9 285.5 35 9/5 88.23 -0.7% 61.12 -10.2% 27.11 30.7% 30.7 % 163.6 40.0 34 8/29 73.03 -25.3% 54.90 -23.7% 18.12 -29.9% 24.8 % 27.8 66.3 33 8/22 75.79 -26.7% 56.68 -20.0% 19.12 -41.2% 25.2 % 7.8 217.1 32 8/15 78.42 -21.4% 58.56 -19.0% 19.85 -27.6% 25.3 % 67.1 93.1 31 8/8 92.02 -17.7% 64.19 -18.5% 27.83 -15.9% 30.2 % 166.8 283.1 30 8/1 86.59 -14.0% 60.24 -17.8% 26.35 -3.9% 30.4 % 181.8 187.2 29 7/25 76.44 -23.6% 55.78 -24.6% 20.66 -20.7% 27.0 % 3.7 147.7 28 7/18 91.34 -5.5% 63.42 -9.0% 27.93 3.6% 30.6 % 184.7 134.7 27 7/11 75.36 -5.9% 58.00 -4.7% 17.36 -9.7% 23.0 % 34.9 14.6 Q2 HMM 1105.9 -20.0% 776.74 -19.3% 329.15 -21.7% 29.8% 1763.1 1836.5 26 7/4 80.04 -10.1% 59.99 -9.6% 20.05 -11.6% 25.0 % 115.1 4.7 25 6/27 76.22 -21.3% 56.18 -16.9% 20.04 -31.5% 26.3 % 0.1 121.6 24 6/20 96.47 -18.9% 64.82 -15.8% 31.65 -24.5% 32.8 % 100.5 317.6 23 6/13 90.01 -21.9% 61.54 -19.8% 28.47 -26.0% 31.6 % 185.5 145.4 22 6/6 97.72 -12.0% 65.23 -11.7% 32.49 -12.6% 33.2 % 308.9 243.4 21 5/30 83.37 0.7% 58.42 -3.7% 24.95 12.7% 29.9 % 23.6 23.6 20 5/23 75.28 -15.7% 55.22 -13.6% 20.06 -20.9% 26.6 % 375.9 189.1 19 5/16 86.81 2.2% 60.42 -2.7% 26.39 15.3% 30.4 % 34.3 72.1 18 5/9 100.88 10.2% 66.77 -0.7% 34.11 40.2% 33.8 % 251.6 5.7 17 5/2 79.35 -10.8% 57.24 -12.2% 22.11 -6.8% 27.9 % 225.1 51.6 16 4/25 80.42 -10.4% 57.62 -11.9% 22.80 -6.5% 28.4 % 91.6 0.1 15 4/18 76.44 -56.7% 54.38 -55.8% 22.06 -58.7% 28.9 % 43.1 296.7 14 4/11 82.89 -44.1% 58.91 -37.0% 23.97 -56.2% 28.9 % 7.8 365.0 Q1 HMM 1578.06 -12.1% 1064.33 -11.9% 513.76 -12.4% 32.6% 3178.4 3176.1 13 4/4 150.33 10.2% 99.28 9.4% 51.05 11.8% 34.0 % 332.0 165.9 12 3/28 145.19 -3.0% 90.83 -9.0% 54.36 9.1% 37.4 % 498.8 187.9 11 3/21 112.10 -53.7% 76.52 -45.3% 35.58 -65.1% 31.7 % 260.4 643.5 10 3/14 119.66 -11.6% 81.16 -13.1% 38.50 -8.3% 32.2 % 113.4 66.6 9 3/7 139.83 -1.7% 91.54 -14.1% 48.29 -18.6% 34.5 % 350.9 490.2 8 2/28 151.40 -2.6% 95.11 -3.3% 56.32 -1.4% 37.2 % 303.3 506.5 7 2/21 120.65 -5.2% 82.04 -7.6% 38.61 0.3% 32.0 % 216.5 0.2 6 2/14 129.22 -17.1% 91.16 -18.0% 38.06 -12.9% 29.5 % 126.3 162.8 5 2/7 120.93 3.2% 84.14 -0.7% 36.79 13.4% 30.4 % 184.4 147.1 4 1/31 110.66 0.4% 75.00 -3.0% 35.67 8.3% 32.2 % 192.8 319.5 3 1/24 100.24 4.2% 68.82 -1.4% 31.43 18.8% 31.4 % 273.7 196.0 2 1/17 89.84 -15.3% 65.07 -14.6% 24.76 -17.2% 27.6 % 201.2 261.7 1 1/10 87.99 -10.9% 63.66 -11.4% 24.34 -9.5% 27.7 % 124.8 28.2 2014 HMM 6783.24 -10.1% 4661.69 -11.0% 2121.58 -7.9% 31.3% 10450.6 10589.2 Q4 HMM 2267.71 -14.1% 1540.94 -13.0% 726.79 -16.4% 32.0% 3157.4 3445.0 52 1/3 121.21 -4.4% 83.90 -6.1% 37.31 -0.5% 30.8 % 103.7 24.5 51 12/27 263.04 -3.6% 182.27 -3.0% 80.77 -4.8% 30.7 % 7.1 83.9 50 12/20 306.48 -20.8% 206.91 -21.0% 99.57 -20.5% 32.5 % 343.4 406.9 49 12/13 248.11 -24.8% 161.33 -20.5% 86.78 -31.7% 35.0 % 409.4 618.1 48 12/6 203.22 -11.9% 139.51 -8.0% 63.71 -19.3% 31.4 % 291.0 235.1 47 11/29 329.76 -11.5% 226.35 -10.7% 103.42 -13.4% 31.4 % 165.5 80.0 46 11/22 128.77 -17.6% 90.97 -14.0% 37.81 -25.2% 29.4 % 324.7 354.1 45 11/15 138.26 -8.0% 90.36 -4.8% 47.90 -13.5% 34.6 % 391.5 380.3 44 11/8 128.78 2.9% 83.10 -5.6% 45.68 22.9% 35.5 % 408.5 209.3 43 11/1 88.60 -31.4% 66.32 -24.2% 22.28 -46.6% 25.1 % 65.1 302.2 42 10/25 93.20 -14.2% 66.38 -15.6% 26.82 -10.5% 28.8 % 157.1 212.5 41 10/18 112.00 -14.9% 72.69 -17.5% 39.31 -9.5% 35.1 % 347.4 293.7 40 10/11 106.28 -10.8% 70.85 -12.9% 35.43 -6.1% 33.3 % 182.9 244.6 Q3 HMM 1320.38 -8.6% 935.73 -8.5% 384.66 -9.1% 29.1% 2295.1 2305.5 39 10/4 113.89 -18.5% 73.80 -12.6% 40.09 -27.5% 35.2 % 278.5 288.6 38 9/27 97.15 -22.7% 69.79 -11.9% 27.37 -41.1% 28.2 % 155.7 414.8 37 9/20 120.20 5.5% 80.61 2.8% 39.59 11.5% 32.9 % 391.2 213.6 36 9/13 111.46 -16.0% 73.15 -14.5% 38.31 -18.7% 34.4 % 285.5 239.8 35 9/6 88.74 -18.9% 68.01 -17.8% 20.73 -22.1% 23.4 % 40.0 123.9 34 8/30 97.67 -16.3% 71.81 -15.8% 25.85 -17.5% 26.5 % 67.6 197.5 33 8/23 103.27 0.9% 70.74 -7.8% 32.53 27.1% 31.5 % 217.1 146.6 32 8/16 99.46 -2.2% 72.02 -4.6% 27.44 4.9% 27.6 % 93.1 130.3 31 8/9 111.46 4.8% 78.38 4.2% 33.08 6.2% 29.7 % 283.2 136.9 30 8/2 100.58 -3.3% 73.19 -2.7% 27.40 -4.7% 27.2 % 187.2 125.4 29 7/26 99.91 8.7% 73.88 3.1% 26.03 28.5% 26.1 % 147.6 3.9 28 7/19 96.55 -5.0% 69.59 -8.5% 26.96 5.5% 27.9 % 133.9 159.9 27 7/12 80.04 -19.4% 60.76 -20.2% 19.28 -16.8% 24.1 % 14.6 124.3 Q2 HMM 1381.45 -1.7% 961.09 -5.7% 420.37 8.6% 30.4% 1833.8 1735.1 26 7/5 88.88 -11.2% 66.22 -15.0% 22.66 2.3% 25.5 % 4.6 1.1 25 6/28 96.64 -0.7% 67.38 -8.4% 29.26 23.1% 30.3 % 121.6 78.1 24 6/21 118.84 8.1% 76.92 -2.9% 41.93 36.6% 35.3 % 316.3 135.0 23 6/14 115.15 -21.0% 76.72 -21.8% 38.43 -19.4% 33.4 % 144.9 334.5 22 6/7 110.91 -9.8% 73.74 -15.1% 37.17 3.0% 33.5 % 243.4 325.5 21 5/31 82.78 -10.1% 60.65 -12.9% 22.12 -1.4% 26.7 % 23.6 18.4 20 5/24 89.23 -13.7% 63.85 -15.3% 25.38 -9.3% 28.4 % 189.1 84.8 19 5/17 84.90 -11.9% 62.00 -12.3% 22.89 -10.9% 27.0 % 72.1 61.8 18 5/10 91.35 -22.5% 67.02 -19.8% 24.33 -29.0% 26.6 % 5.7 223.5 17 5/3 88.49 -15.2% 64.85 -14.1% 23.65 -18.2% 26.7 % 51.6 189.7 16 4/26 89.68 -11.1% 65.32 -10.6% 24.37 -12.3% 27.2 % 0.1 113.5 15 4/19 176.28 56.2% 122.89 54.5% 53.39 60.3% 30.3 % 295.8 162.8 14 4/12 148.32 45.2% 93.53 23.4% 54.79 108.0% 36.9 % 365.0 6.4 Q1 HMM 1813.70 -11.6% 1223.93 -14.2% 589.76 -5.7% 32.5% 3164.4 3103.6 13 4/5 136.35 6.0% 90.67 -1.5% 45.68 24.8% 33.5 % 165.9 0.4 12 3/29 149.53 -32.9% 99.72 -35.3% 49.81 -27.6% 33.3 % 187.8 297.1 11 3/22 241.91 18.3% 139.92 11.3% 101.98 29.5% 42.2 % 641.1 618.9 10 3/15 145.68 -10.9% 101.76 -8.6% 43.92 -15.8% 30.1 % 66.6 247.4 9 3/8 165.48 -15.3% 106.21 -20.7% 59.26 -3.4% 35.8 % 488.3 257.6 8 3/1 155.39 -12.4% 98.31 -23.9% 57.09 18.3% 36.7 % 503.8 315.7 7 2/22 127.22 -19.7% 88.74 -16.0% 38.47 -27.0% 30.2 % 0.2 247.3 6 2/15 155.64 -20.7% 111.97 -15.2% 43.67 -31.9% 28.1 % 162.8 368.9 5 2/8 117.08 -18.4% 84.67 -18.6% 32.41 -17.9% 27.7 % 144.0 171.1 4 2/1 118.53 -4.5% 84.08 -5.7% 34.46 -1.4% 29.1% 318.9 221.4 3 1/25 96.17 -7.9% 69.76 -11.4% 26.41 2.7% 27.5% 195.3 47.0 2 1/18 106.11 -10.2% 76.19 -11.5% 29.92 -6.8% 28.2% 261.6 213.6 1 1/11 98.61 -14.2% 71.93 -15.1% 26.68 -11.8% 27.1% 28.2 97.3 2013 HMM 7539.31 -8.3% 5242.51 -13.1% 2296.82 4.9% 30.5% 10668.2 10071.3 Q4 HMM 2766.93 -9.8% 1851.78 -14.0% 915.15 0.1% 33.1% 3728.2 3249.2 53 1/4 126.71 -11.6% 89.22 -14.9% 37.49 -2.5% 29.6% 24.5 67.2 52 12/28 272.62 14.2% 187.84 9.7% 84.77 25.6% 31.1% 83.8 11.9 51 12/21 386.85 -8.2% 261.74 -14.4% 125.11 8.2% 32.3% 406.8 284.4 50 12/14 330.14 -5.5% 203.04 -15.2% 127.10 15.7% 38.5% 617.5 493.4 49 12/7 230.30 -24.6% 151.36 -22.3% 78.94 -28.7% 34.3% 235.1 586.2 48 11/30 372.25 70.3% 253.10 64.6% 119.15 83.8% 32.0% 79.9 133.4 47 11/23 156.10 -60.0% 105.57 -62.3% 50.53 -54.0% 32.4% 354.0 85.0 46 11/16 149.93 -12.3% 94.62 -18.5% 55.31 0.9% 36.9% 376.1 326.6 45 11/9 124.86 -3.7% 87.74 -6.2% 37.12 2.7% 29.7% 209.3 315.0 44 11/2 128.93 2.0% 87.22 -9.4% 41.72 38.1% 32.4% 301.9 93.5 43 10/26 108.04 -27.3% 78.18 -28.3% 29.87 -24.6% 27.6% 212.5 227.0 42 10/19 131.05 -5.6% 87.75 -11.0% 43.30 7.7% 33.0% 293.5 350.8 41 10/12 119.64 -13.2% 81.55 -11.3% 38.09 -16.9% 31.8% 244.6 181.9 40 10/5 129.51 -12.4% 82.85 -14.9% 46.65 -7.6% 36.0% 288.6 93.1 Q3 DEG 1448.64 -13.4% 1011.45 -15.4% 437.19 -8.3% 30.2% (EST)273.9 15.9%(share) Q3 HMM 1401.22 -14.3% 1010.62 -16.4% 390.58 -8.4% 27.9% 2017.4 2145.2 39 9/28 125.64 -37.1% 79.05 -29.2% 46.59 -47.1% 37.1% 414.8 624.7 38 9/21 113.74 -4.1% 78.15 -13.1% 35.58 24.2% 31.3% 213.5 116.7 37 9/14 132.99 -1.9% 85.34 -15.8% 47.65 39.1% 35.8% 239.8 211.1 36 9/7 108.70 8.9% 80.72 -13.8% 27.98 8.9% 25.7% 123.8 46.5 35 8/31 114.52 -21.0% 84.31 -21.6% 30.21 -19.3% 26.4% 197.5 262.5 34 8/24 102.07 -29.3% 76.50 -28.1% 25.57 -32.7% 25.1% 146.4 105.5 33 8/17 101.24 -31.8% 75.14 -30.9% 26.10 -34.2% 25.8% 130.3 412.4 32 8/10 106.13 -8.3% 75.01 -13.4% 31.12 7.0% 29.3% 136.9 216.2 31 8/3 103.89 10.4% 75.15 -1.7% 28.74 62.5% 27.7% 125.4 0.1 30 7/27 91.47 -3.5% 71.25 -4.9% 20.21 1.8% 22.1% 3.9 18.5 29 7/20 101.61 -3.4% 76.01 -7.2% 25.60 9.8% 25.2% 159.9 81.0 28 7/13 99.26 -5.7% 76.13 -8.7% 23.13 6.0% 23.3% 124.3 59.6 27 7/6 99.96 -8.0% 77.86 -9.5% 22.10 -2.4% 22.1% 1.1 0.5 Q2 DEG 1457.26 -13.0% 1052.97 -16.7% 404.29 -1.5% 27.7% (EST)259.4 15.1%(share) Q2 HMM 1432.97 -13.2% 1031.66 -17.1% 401.32 -1.3% 28.0% 1777.3 2318.0 26 6/29 97.21 -21.8% 73.46 -20.8% 23.76 -24.7% 24.4% 78.1 350.5 25 6/22 109.92 -5.8% 79.23 -10.9% 30.69 10.7% 27.9% 135.0 98.6 24 6/15 145.76 -10.6% 98.08 -15.6% 47.68 1.9% 32.7% 334.2 275.5 23 6/8 122.79 -19.0% 86.72 -18.2% 36.06 -21.0% 29.4% 325.2 374.1 22 6/1 91.91 -18.9% 69.55 -20.2% 22.36 -14.4% 24.3% 18.4 37.0 21 5/25 103.15 -6.7% 75.17 -10.1% 27.98 3.8% 27.1% 84.8 178.2 20 5/18 96.09 -12.1% 70.43 -15.0% 25.67 -3.1% 26.7% 61.8 200.1 19 5/11 117.72 -5.1% 83.48 -11.5% 34.24 15.4% 29.1% 223.5 187.5 18 5/4 104.34 -4.3% 75.45 -12.1% 28.89 24.7% 27.7% 189.5 105.0 17 4/27 100.75 -4.2% 72.97 -8.6% 27.78 9.8% 27.6% 157.3 67.9 16 4/20 112.75 1.5% 79.45 -3.3% 33.30 14.9% 29.5% 162.8 236.0 15 4/13 102.06 -6.0% 75.74 -12.1% 26.32 17.6% 25.8% 6.4 51.8 14 4/6 128.52 -36.9% 91.93 -41.8% 36.59 -20.0% 28.5% 0.4 155.8 Q1 DEG 2098.83 2.1% 1455.55 -6.7% 643.28 28.5% 30.6% (EST)231.2 9.9%(share) Q1 HMM 2064.90 2.5% 1437.67 -6.2% 627.26 30.1% 30.4% 3169.8 2426.1 13 3/30 222.64 41.9% 153.75 26.4% 68.89 95.1% 30.9% 294.8 171.2 12 3/23 204.22 35.8% 125.59 14.6% 78.63 92.8% 38.5% 618.7 356.9 11 3/16 163.59 10.3% 111.45 -1.8% 52.15 49.6% 31.9% 244.8 279.2 10 3/9 195.09 19.0% 133.76 10.1% 61.33 44.3% 31.4% 256.6 216.0 9 3/2 177.32 15.9% 129.10 10.1% 48.23 35.0% 27.2% 315.6 82.3 8 2/23 158.25 -1.7% 105.48 -14.7% 52.77 41.6% 33.3% 251.0 274.4 7 2/16 196.00 -6.2% 131.73 -18.6% 64.27 36.6% 32.8% 368.6 16.2 6 2/9 143.36 -30.4% 103.88 -31.5% 39.48 -27.5% 27.5% 171.1 321.4 5 2/2 124.02 -15.3% 89.11 -19.9% 34.91 -0.8% 28.1% 221.2 118.7 4 1/26 104.36 -19.8% 78.68 -18.6% 25.69 -23.2% 24.6% 46.5 226.0 3 1/19 118.15 -7.3% 88.02 -14.7% 32.13 20.7% 27.2% 213.2 114.0 2 1/12 114.83 -8.9% 84.56 -13.8% 30.27 8.1% 26.4% 96.8 116.2 1 1/5 143.07 5.5% 104.56 -0.1% 38.51 24.4% 26.9% 67.2 134.3 2012 DEG 8462.18 -5.5% 6105.78 -10.9% 2356.40 9.6% 27.8% (EST)811.5 8.8%(share) 2012 HMM 8181.48 -5.6% 5997.34 -9.9% 2184.04 8.6% 26.7% 10157.8 9979.0 Q4 DEG 3060.27 -8.3% 2091.50 -15.1% 968.77 4.8% 31.7% (EST)295.0 8.8%(share) Q4 HMM 2914.71 -7.1% 2037.92 -11.0% 876.78 3.5% 30.1% 3319.1 3713.8 52 12/29 237.36 35.8% 169.84 29.8% 67.52 53.6% 28.4% 11.5 64.3 51 12/22 420.06 -12.9% 304.39 -17.4% 115.67 1.9% 27.5% 281.1 205.6 50 12/15 348.17 -5.8% 238.15 -15.1% 110.01 23.3% 31.6% 492.9 360.7 49 12/8 303.97 -6.1% 193.44 -21.0% 110.53 40.3% 36.4% 567.3 624.8 48 12/1 217.83 -5.3% 152.95 -12.4% 64.88 16.9% 29.8% 336.6 282.0 47 11/24 388.81 -0.3% 278.21 -7.6% 110.60 24.6% 28.4% 84.4 194.5 46 11/17 169.81 1.0% 115.01 -10.6% 54.79 38.5% 32.3% 326.0 41.6 45 11/10 128.76 -29.6% 93.33 -27.9% 35.43 -33.8% 27.5% 309.7 422.9 44 11/3 126.70 -25.0% 96.30 -18.9% 30.39 -39.4% 24.0% 93.1 335.6 43 10/27 149.05 0.9% 109.23 12.7% 39.82 -21.6% 26.7% 227.0 204.5 42 10/20 139.08 -12.3% 98.69 1.8% 40.40 -34.4% 29.0% 311.3 370.0 41 10/13 137.69 -11.0% 91.68 -14.8% 46.02 -2.3% 33.4% 181.4 343.3 40 10/6 147.42 -20.5% 96.70 -12.5% 50.72 -32.2% 34.4% 96.8 264.0 Q3 DEG 1672.54 -4.0% 1195.84 -9.5% 476.70 13.0% 28.5% (EST)187.1 10.1%(share) Q3 HMM 1624.71 -3.7% 1199.77 -8.6% 424.65 13.3% 26.1% 2147.2 1806.5 39 9/29 198.99 28.7% 110.98 0.1% 88.01 101.1% 44.2% 624.6 352.1 38 9/22 118.97 -26.2% 89.54 -20.5% 28.63 -39.8% 24.2% 116.0 169.3 37 9/15 134.97 -18.9% 100.75 -6.9% 34.22 -41.1% 25.4% 208.4 190.8 36 9/8 118.56 -8.8% 92.98 -9.9% 25.58 -4.5% 21.6% 47.6 189.3 35 9/1 144.44 20.3% 107.25 5.3% 37.19 103.6% 25.7% 252.7 65.6 34 8/25 143.76 31.4% 105.81 15.3% 37.95 115.6% 26.4% 105.3 12.6 33 8/18 147.22 17.3% 108.08 5.7% 39.64 67.7% 26.8% 411.4 100.8 32 8/11 114.70 -7.0% 85.79 -13.8% 28.91 21.3% 25.2% 216.1 118.2 31 8/4 93.41 -33.4% 75.78 -32.4% 17.63 -37.3% 18.9% 0.6 189.8 30 7/28 94.17 -14.4% 74.35 -17.6% 19.82 0.4% 21.0% 18.5 56.8 29 7/21 103.79 -14.7% 80.67 -18.0% 23.12 -0.9% 22.3% 87.8 88.3 28 7/14 104.61 -12.5% 82.94 -13.7% 21.67 -7.4% 20.7% 57.9 267.8 27 7/7 107.12 0.7% 84.85 -1.2% 22.28 8.6% 20.8% 0.3 5.1 Q2 DEG 1674.15 -7.1% 1263.83 -10.1% 410.32 3.4% 24.5% Q2 HMM 1631.18 -9.9% 1227.87 -13.3% 403.51 2.5% 24.7% 2296.8 2322.3 26 6/30 122.48 -3.7% 91.23 -5.2% 31.25 0.9% 25.5% 342.2 102.3 25 6/23 114.86 -7.7% 87.39 -11.5% 27.47 6.8% 23.9% 97.5 205.4 24 6/16 160.13 5.6% 113.84 -1.9% 46.29 30.2% 28.9% 275.1 208.2 23 6/9 151.52 14.4% 105.51 1.2% 45.61 61.4% 30.2% 370.6 305.0 22 6/2 111.57 -6.5% 85.76 -11.7% 25.81 16.4% 23.1% 36.1 15.8 21 5/26 109.16 -5.2% 82.48 -10.8% 26.88 17.7% 24.6% 179.2 154.4 20 5/19 109.04 -3.6% 82.49 -11.1% 26.55 30.7% 24.3% 200.0 99.9 19 5/12 121.91 8.4% 92.63 1.6% 29.28 37.8% 24.0% 187.4 155.6 18 5/5 107.56 -11.5% 84.66 -14.4% 22.90 1.5% 21.3% 104.9 148.6 17 4/28 103.68 -4.1% 78.66 -10.5% 25.02 23.5% 24.1% 67.6 0.0 16 4/21 109.99 -50.1% 81.31 -53.3% 28.68 -38.1% 26.1% 231.7 184.9 15 4/14 107.78 -42.5% 85.63 -37.4% 22.15 -56.2% 20.6% 51.3 314.8 14 4/7 201.90 13.9% 156.28 20.0% 45.62 -3.0% 22.6% 153.2 427.4 Q1 DEG 2060.00 -0.4% 1559.39 -6.1% 500.61 23.0% 24.3% Q1 HMM 2010.88 -1.2% 1531.78 -6.6% 479.10 20.9% 23.8% 2394.7 2136.4 13 3/31 155.29 -19.9% 120.32 -17.4% 34.98 -27.6% 22.5% 168.6 319.2 12 3/24 148.56 8.5% 108.20 -2.8% 40.36 57.9% 27.2% 353.9 219.4 11 3/17 146.48 4.6% 112.13 -1.4% 34.34 30.2% 23.4% 276.1 154.2 10 3/10 165.27 9.5% 123.11 2.7% 42.16 35.7% 25.5% 216.0 177.1 9 3/3 150.39 -14.0% 115.29 -13.4% 35.10 -15.7% 23.3% 67.0 112.3 8 2/25 158.98 -2.2% 122.04 -7.3% 36.94 19.4% 23.2% 272.1 258.0 7 2/18 207.15 18.9% 160.38 10.4% 46.77 61.7% 22.6% 16.4 86.2 6 2/11 205.54 19.4% 151.09 3.1% 54.45 104.2% 26.5% 316.5 224.0 5 2/4 144.90 -8.6% 110.25 -16.0% 34.65 27.1% 23.9% 118.5 23.0 4 1/28 131.95 -13.6% 98.40 -20.2% 33.55 14.2% 25.4% 226.3 201.2 3 1/21 129.39 -2.4% 103.53 -4.9% 25.86 8.9% 20.0% 112.7 60.7 2 1/14 128.65 -5.1% 100.16 -7.7% 28.49 5.6% 22.1% 143.4 116.2 1 1/7 138.33 -8.0% 106.88 -11.6% 31.45 7.0% 22.7% 157.7 134.3 2011 DEG 8951.80 -13.2% 6851.80 -19.5% 2150.00 19.4% 24.0% 2011 HMM 8604.20 -13.9% 6608.28 -20.3% 1995.92 17.7% 23.2% 9936.0 10820.9
12-23-15, 08:47 PM
#3447
DVD Talk Hero
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
So if I am reading the table correctly, Blu-ray sales are only down 8% year over year and easily beating DVD's 15% loss YOY.
That's a win for Blu-ray in my book given the shrinking retail presence for media and Amazon's aggressive pricing shift upwards. Some of the advantage is likely tied to the presence of a HD digital copy included with new BDs, but 2015 also saw many niche catalog discs getting released outside the studios.
That's a win for Blu-ray in my book given the shrinking retail presence for media and Amazon's aggressive pricing shift upwards. Some of the advantage is likely tied to the presence of a HD digital copy included with new BDs, but 2015 also saw many niche catalog discs getting released outside the studios.
12-23-15, 10:17 PM
#3448
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
So if I am reading the table correctly, Blu-ray sales are only down 8% year over year and easily beating DVD's 15% loss YOY.
That's a win for Blu-ray in my book given the shrinking retail presence for media and Amazon's aggressive pricing shift upwards. Some of the advantage is likely tied to the presence of a HD digital copy included with new BDs, but 2015 also saw many niche catalog discs getting released outside the studios.
That's a win for Blu-ray in my book given the shrinking retail presence for media and Amazon's aggressive pricing shift upwards. Some of the advantage is likely tied to the presence of a HD digital copy included with new BDs, but 2015 also saw many niche catalog discs getting released outside the studios.
12-23-15, 10:34 PM
#3449
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
Depending on how UHD-Blu-ray pans out, regular Blu-ray could quickly find itself as the middle-of-the-road format; too good for the DVD regulars and too inferior for the cinephiles and completely useless for the streamers/downloaders.
We are already seeing some titles appearing only on DVD and download, no BR.
We are already seeing some titles appearing only on DVD and download, no BR.
12-23-15, 11:02 PM
#3450
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Blu-ray and DVD sales - #2, but we try harder
My guess is that HMM made an adjustment in their algorithm that gives a little more to Blu-ray and a little less to DVD. After week 35 (week ending 9/5/15), DVD was -14.4% and Blu-ray -16.7%. DVD did better than Blu-ray YoY-wise in 16 of those 35 weeks. But since week 35 (14 weeks running), DVD has not had a better YoY in any single week. That's too sudden and too long a losing streak to be due to chance alone, so something was done to tweak the estimation formula. Maybe Blu-ray has done better all this time, who knows?