I found more to like in Smokin' Aces... it's still the type of movie I don't care for.... little or no redeeming value in any of it. But it did have a good variety of characters at least.

I'm about half-way through the film and so far, all I've got to say is:

Shoot 'Em Up is the perfect film ...











for me to poop on!

I mean really, the action sequences are completely ridiculous and laughable and the plot ... I mean, "the plot" ... seems like it was written by a couple of 7th graders with ADD. Clive Owen was really spot-on with his line in the film when he said, "This is really fucked up". I'm going to finish watching the rest anyway, just because I hate leaving a film halfway, but man ...

At least it's neat to see the area around where I work being featured prominently in almost every friggin' scene of the film, since it was filmed in downtown Toronto.

you're spot on, but does it make it bad, since that was the intent?

I loved it.

However, I didn't care for There Will Be Blood, and I know many loved it.

I mean, I knew going in how stupid it was. It was an enjoyable stupid (if there is such a thing.) The outrageous fight scenes, all fun.

Totally agree. One of the worst movies I have ever seen!

Would it be safe to say that if you enjoyed Shoot 'Em Up you'd also enjoy Doomsday? Both of which I dug

Not really. I hated Shoot 'Em Up but really enjoyed Doomsday. It may be a genre thing. I'm not a huge action fan but love Science Fiction and Horror.

I thought it was pretty obvious they intended it to be a live action cartoon. With the carrots and bugs bunny references. It was OK for what it was, one of those movies you completely forget about 10min after having watched it.

This was an awesome flick...delivered exactly what it was supposed to. Anyone who couldn't see this for what it was either wasn't trying or simply going in waiting for something else. It is a shame when that happens..but different stroke different folks I suppose.

Smokin' Aces on the other hand, it a good movie, but no where near the caliber of Shoot'em Up. Aces gets bogged down trying to be a gangster movie and a shoot'em up...instead of a shoot'em up with gangsters. But after watching that several times, I am starting to see what the intention was...flawed but still very good.

I wonder if the people who've seen Shoot 'Em Up and liked it have seen Kung Fu Hustle. I know I wish Michael Davis had.

My father just loves Kung Fu Hustle. He enjoyed Shoot Em Up as well.

Myself, I have yet to see KFH

seemed like 30-40 minutes to me

I dug Kung Fu Hustle...but I think it is granny smith apples and mackintosh apples. They have similar feels and textures, but the taste is totally different.

I finished watching the latter half of the movie last night, and I must say, I didn't find the second half too bad. It still bothered me that Clive Owen's character is able to jump through glass windows and be propelled into a van through the windshield and still end up exactly where he wants to be, still able to shoot down each and every one of the bad guys without so much as wasting a bullet, all the while maintaining a calm expression on his face. I think I would have preferred more of a Bruce Willis / Die Hard approach to the action, where the hero is able to do all the crazy stuff but it looks like there's more effort required on his part to do it. Nonetheless, taking it for what it is, I am considering giving this another chance on Blu-ray, if only to see the spectacle in pretty, pretty HD.

Just to throw in my 2 cents: I saw Shoot 'Em Up in the theater and was very entertained - got exactly what I expected. Smokin' Aces on the other hand sucked quite big balls IMO. Not nearly enough action and not much else to keep you occupied while you're thinking there's not enough action.

There's really no in between with this film, it's a love it or hate it thing. While not on par with Evil Dead 2, Shoot Em Up is to action what Evil Dead 2 is to horror. Not everyone "gets" that kind of satire, and that's alright. It's just a matter of preference. I loved it. It would be a great time to get a bunch of friends together, mix some cocktails, and laugh at the ridiculousness of it all.

To the OP, what did you think of Crank?

People can "get" the satire and still not like the movie. I understood exactly what the film was trying to do while watching it, and still did not enjoy it. Just because something is a satire does not automatically make it good. It's not that simple folks. As already mentioned, Kung Fu Hustle is a perfect example of a great satire that is also a great film.

by "get" I think he meant "thought was funny" as well.

Well I tried to watch it but I shut it off at the SECOND carrot in the head killing. What a piece of shit movie.

Meet the Spartans is also satire.

Agreed, this film is an absurd masterpiece.

I'm someone who hates most action movies; it's ironic to me that most people slamming this as "pointless action" are fans of...well...pointless action movies.

I enjoyed Shaolin Soccer a lot more than KFH.

I just watched this movie and thought it was pretty good for a mindless shoot em up. I think the director must have played No One Lives Forever.

Reminded me of the ice-cream cone scene in Last Action Hero.