Another receiver discussion thread? You betcha! HDMI related
03-31-07 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sdallnct
Yea, I don't know about that. I think some of these cheap Sony's and Pioneers are much less then that. I know when I got my 40 watt H/K it was noticeably and significantly more powerful then the 85 watt Sony it replaced. The Sony had trouble driving my speakers even to moderate levels. The H/K has power to spare.
I'd think maybe the h/k it 5%-10% off while the cheap Sony and Pioneers are like 90% off!
I'd think maybe the h/k it 5%-10% off while the cheap Sony and Pioneers are like 90% off!
03-31-07 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I hope you aren't comparing a Sony receiver to a Pio one, because that's just silly.
BTW, I had a chance to listen to one from their Elite series the other day. Very impressive.
03-31-07 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sdallnct
Talking the cheap, big box store ones.
BTW, I had a chance to listen to one from their Elite series the other day. Very impressive.
BTW, I had a chance to listen to one from their Elite series the other day. Very impressive.
But yeah, the Elites are da shiznits
03-31-07 | 04:58 PM
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HK rates their's better, but they are still off, and more so at the low end. At least, last I delved into their specs. That's why I'd guess a $300 40wpc model is below 30wpc in reality, I'd say they are 30% off at that price point. Maybe closer to 10% at the top. About the only receivers I know that actually rate properly are Sunfire, Outlaw, maybe B&K or the Denon 5xxx series. I'm not even sure that NAD or Rotel do, and they are audio companies with pretty weak (on features) HT receivers.
And I'd rate Pioneer's low-end barely above Sony at a comparable price. (Sony does sink much deeper, though, where Pioneer doesn't have comparable crap) They don't touch the low-end Onkyo/HK/Denon/Yamaha crowd. Elite is a different story, of course. Under $500 retail, I don't even consider looking outside these 4 companies.
And I'd rate Pioneer's low-end barely above Sony at a comparable price. (Sony does sink much deeper, though, where Pioneer doesn't have comparable crap) They don't touch the low-end Onkyo/HK/Denon/Yamaha crowd. Elite is a different story, of course. Under $500 retail, I don't even consider looking outside these 4 companies.
03-31-07 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
HK rates their's better, but they are still off, and more so at the low end. At least, last I delved into their specs. That's why I'd guess a $300 40wpc model is below 30wpc in reality, I'd say they are 30% off at that price point. Maybe closer to 10% at the top. About the only receivers I know that actually rate properly are Sunfire, Outlaw, maybe B&K or the Denon 5xxx series. I'm not even sure that NAD or Rotel do, and they are audio companies with pretty weak (on features) HT receivers.
And I'd rate Pioneer's low-end barely above Sony at a comparable price. (Sony does sink much deeper, though, where Pioneer doesn't have comparable crap) They don't touch the low-end Onkyo/HK/Denon/Yamaha crowd. Elite is a different story, of course. Under $500 retail, I don't even consider looking outside these 4 companies.
And I'd rate Pioneer's low-end barely above Sony at a comparable price. (Sony does sink much deeper, though, where Pioneer doesn't have comparable crap) They don't touch the low-end Onkyo/HK/Denon/Yamaha crowd. Elite is a different story, of course. Under $500 retail, I don't even consider looking outside these 4 companies.
Some good names there (name dropper
). I have experience with most of those, but based on what I would want to spend and features, and my personal preferences, I'm looking at the, Marantz SR40001 and H/K AVR 247.
03-31-07 | 10:28 PM
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My only worry that keeps Marantz off this list is their reliability. They have been truly horrid in recent years, even having some catch on fire. My Marantz CDR saga was an exercise in many sorts of pain.
Otherwise, they sound great. I'm hoping that being related to Denon will help, it's been a couple years, now. But I haven't checked them out recently.
Otherwise, they sound great. I'm hoping that being related to Denon will help, it's been a couple years, now. But I haven't checked them out recently.
04-01-07 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
My only worry that keeps Marantz off this list is their reliability. They have been truly horrid in recent years, even having some catch on fire. My Marantz CDR saga was an exercise in many sorts of pain.
Otherwise, they sound great. I'm hoping that being related to Denon will help, it's been a couple years, now. But I haven't checked them out recently.
Otherwise, they sound great. I'm hoping that being related to Denon will help, it's been a couple years, now. But I haven't checked them out recently.
I love the NAD, B&K & Adcom stuff, but I don't want to spend that kind of money. I'm very happy with my H/K. Maybe I'll just get a HDMI switcher and see what's available at Christmas or something.
EDIT: Yea, I'm going to order a HDMI switcher and keep my current H/K for now. WHY?
Well I'm still happy with the sound/power of my current H/K, but a more practicle reason....while I'd like to take advantage of loss less on blu-ray, I have a grand total of about four blue ray movies! I see no reason, to jump on that audio band wagon when I have so little titles. Sincy I still buy SD DVD's , will see how many blue-rays I have (and what titles) by the end of the year.
Looks like the Monoprice 5 X 1 is in stock....
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04-02-07 | 07:07 PM
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I ordered a monoprice HDMI switcher and DVI > HDMI adapter. I realized that the old Voom box has a DVI output so might as well hook all I can up to the switcher. So that will take up three. And if I ever upgrad to Dish HD, then I still have room.
