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Old 09-12-23, 10:59 PM
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Unity commits corporate suicide

This could become a HUGE problem for Game Pass moving forward...
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Correction - one dev. I've never heard of them.

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I’d like to see how Unity could possibly know how many times a game is installed on any/every platform. From the sounds of it, they’re going to estimate the number. Sounds like a foolproof plan that definitely won’t backfire.

But sure, “Game Pass is doomed” is the logical conclusion here.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

Yeah, this is a Unity problem, not a Game Pass or any other subscription service problem.
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We'll probably just see Unity engine games not being released on these services anymore. They'll all be stand alone purchases rather than being launched on GP or PSN+. I've already seen numerous posts from indie devs who are pulling demos from Steam because they can't afford the extra charges without passing it on to publishers or worse, consumers.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

Originally Posted by Noonan
We'll probably just see Unity engine games [From indie devs] not being released on these services anymore. They'll all be stand alone purchases rather than being launched on GP or PSN+. I've already seen numerous posts from indie devs who are pulling demos from Steam because they can't afford the extra charges without passing it on to publishers or worse, consumers.
FTFY. Biggest game of the year tells MS pay for us or we bail, MS gonna pay for them.
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FTFY. Biggest game of the year tells MS pay for us or we bail, MS gonna pay for them.
No "biggest game of the year" will ever be made in Unity. It's a new(ish) engine geared towards indie devs.
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Yeah, if anything, I see publishers/developers negotiating the Unity fee into their subscription/streaming contracts going forward or abandoning the engine entirely for new projects.
Either way, I think it’ll affect games on PC more than anywhere else. Maybe a Unity Bullshit thread is needed.

Anyway, in other news, this is the full list of Game Pass Core (formerly Xbox Live Gold) games that will be available:

Among Us
Astroneer
Celeste
Dead Cells
Descenders
Dishonored 2
DOOM Eternal Standard Edition
Fable Anniversary
Fallout 4
Fallout 76
Firewatch
Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition
Gang Beasts
Gears 5 Game of the Year Edition
Golf with your Friends
Grounded
Halo 5: Guardians
Halo Wars 2
Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice
Human Fall Flat
INSIDE
LIMBO
Ori & the Will of the Wisps
Overcooked! 2
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
Powerwash Simulator
Psychonauts 2
Slay the Spire
Spiritfarer: Farewell Edition
Stardew Valley
State of Decay 2: Juggernaut Edition
Superliminal
The Elder Scrolls Online
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder’s Revenge
Unpacking
Vampire Survivors
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So this is mostly an indie thing. I personally haven't really taken to indie games (have tried them over the years) and I stick to the BG3s and Starfields, so it won't impact me, but I know a lot of people in this thread play a lot of indies on GP. Something will be figured out.
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So this is mostly an indie thing. I personally haven't really taken to indie games (have tried them over the years) and I stick to the BG3s and Starfields, so it won't impact me, but I know a lot of people in this thread play a lot of indies on GP. Something will be figured out.
Yes, GP will eventually get more expensive or stop carrying these games. As Dan said, devs will have to pass on the extra charges to publishers (MS/XBOX) or consumers. If MS starts absorbing the extra cost in new contracts, they absolutely will pass that on to consumers via a price increase of GP. I'd expect the same from Sony.

Edit: Looks like it's getting started already.


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Old 09-13-23, 12:38 PM
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Oh look. Nothing to do with Game Pass.

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That didn't take long.

Apparently the current CEO of Unity was also the CEO of EA back when FIFA first put loot boxes in the game. Surprise, suprise.

Also read that a bunch of Unity bosses dumped stock before the initial announcement.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

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Also read that a bunch of Unity bosses dumped stock before the initial announcement.
That's.... illegal. And when it's blatant like that a lot of the time investigated.
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That's.... illegal. And when it's blatant like that a lot of the time investigated.
They could probably argue that instating a policy which would drive more revenue would be a good thing for a company. I'm not sure this scenario would be considered insider trading.
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They could probably argue that instating a policy which would drive more revenue would be a good thing for a company. I'm not sure this scenario would be considered insider trading.
Then why sell the stock if you think your company is going to flourish?
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

Yikes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/com...repo_to_track/

hey Adam Tyner or Goldberg74 , maybe we can move all these posts about Unity to a “Unity commits corporate suicide” thread?
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To be eventually moved as well but here's the article about the President's stock sell off before the new policy was announced.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unity...050515124.html
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

Originally Posted by Dan
maybe we can move all these posts about Unity to a “Unity commits corporate suicide” thread?
Done!
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Thanks Adam! didn’t think you’d use my title though!
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Old 09-13-23, 11:34 PM
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So what's stopping a troll from deleting and re-installing a game thousand of times in order to bankrupt a developer?

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Nothing.

I do agree that they should at least give the release a codename, preferably Unity LTS "Harikari"
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Re: Unity commits corporate suicide

I thought I read somewhere that they've back tracked that and are only going to charge for the initial install.

I could be wrong though.
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Re: Xbox Game Pass/Game Pass Ultimate

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To be eventually moved as well but here's the article about the President's stock sell off before the new policy was announced.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unity...050515124.html
I don't understand why you, as a CEO, would implement a policy that you know would sink your company to the point that you sell off your own personal stock.

Also: "On the day of the insider's recent sell, shares of Unity Software Inc were trading at $40 apiece, giving the company a market cap of $14.45 billion."

I wasn't even familiar with Unity before this thread. They just provide a game engine?
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Yikes. Hope we won't have to change the thread title.

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