If there is one "thorn" about this game it's the inability of have multiple characters. I just hit Level 11 and thought about wanting to try one of the others and found you cannot do it unless you overwrite the current one....that is correct right?

I maxed out that Legendary Pistol (Level 8) and gave me a whopping 1800 damage but it's useless when a horde come or you just get a lot swarming you. I went back to a higher level shotgun.

.....and USA is at 21st now.....

You can have over 10 different characters at once...maybe more.

I got it....I'm trying the Biotech character

sorry I did not see this earlier..


You must be missing something. When I make a new character I can scroll down and choose an empty spot to make a new save.

Stupid me...it was so obvious. I did several with the Bio Soldier last night. I actually like being a "Medic" type in games....which I'm doing in The Division now. I just wish he had a bit more with the Poison Cloud....something like a canister to throw. When a horde comes the trail he leaves behind works to an extent but not like I was hoping for. I'll toy with him on & off for a bit.

Lately I've been getting kicked out of matches even with one person as host. I'm guessing they don't want help or want to do it solo. And it wasn't like we were way separate levels apart either...kind of weird.

Trust me when I tell you that the poison cloud is the most op skill in the game.

I have experience with level 30 versions of each charcter now and I would rank them

Bio-Specialist A...easily the best. Each skill is amazing.

Saboteur B..2 great skills...

Tank D..only one good skill..


The Saboteur Skills

Plasma Sword The thing is most weapons against the highest level enemies kill fast. Having a sword swipe that does good damage adds nothing to the game. The healing sounds good on paper, but in game it is not that great. Rating D

Artillery Strike Great nuke skill for horde and even bosses. It only needs 3 charges to come back. Rating B+

Camouflage Long recharge at 4, but it is a team save skill. You can revive your team..get out of trouble..and the damage bonus after using seems almost broken. Rating A

The Tank Skills

Tesla Charge The damage is good..but killing enemies is not the problem...it will clear a path, but for 4 recharge points it is insane how little impact this skill has on combat. Rating D

Shield only good skill. When leveled up it melts enemies around you with lightning..heals the team..and you take no damage from the front and less damage from the back. It also is only 3 recharge points. Best skill on tank. Rating A

Ground Smash What a shit skill Fast recharge does not make it good. Damage is actually not even that great so it is only good against trash..and a shotgun is better for that. The after effects last like 2 seconds. Rating D

Bio-Specialist.

Poison Cloud Best skill in the game. Before it is fully ranked up it sucks. When it is half way up it is good...fully leveled up it is God level. The entire screen will fill up with poison. One shots all normal enemies..will melt even bosses..stays on the screen if you spec for length forever. And only cost 2 recharge points...many times you get those both during the skill so you can keep it up at all times. My god what a great skill Rating A+

Healing team saving skill. High recharge but will save the team in hard times. Not much else to say Rating A-

Wraiths melts hard enemies. You put some points in this and the screen is filled with death..and it heals you. moderate recharge time...only bad thing about this skill is I can't max it because I love poison cloud so much... Rating A-

For me the Bio Specialist is clearly the best class in the game. The other classes need a buff on some of their skills.

Well thanks for the write up and detailed explanation of each. Yea....the Nuke with the Saboteur can be a life saver and take out about everything. Haven't got around to trying the Tank quite yet.

So what's the best way of getting the most out of the Toxin Cloud? Is it the one skill besides the Healing you should try and max out asap? I see where it melts enemies following me; just was hoping for a larger AOE. So that comes later right? Haven't even got around to Camouflage yet but I see where that would come in handy especially if you are the lone survivor trying to heal anyone....Good stuff, thanks again....

For me I would put one point in healing and one in wraith...then max poison cloud and then go back and forth with healing and wraith. You do want the healing that hits right away at least (level 3 I think)..

As for poison cloud...one of the upgrades half way in make 3 trails behind you and not one. This fills up about half the screen..I usually will dash through enemies with it on or circle back around. I stack length and not damage, since I want it on screen as long as possible. You could make a little circle and protect yourself as well. The last level makes you explode after the skill is over for a screen filling mist that melts..I think you will keep poison on the screen for 15-20 seconds, and a lot times you can cast it again right after. One thing you have to watch out for is projectiles are hard to see in the mist..so be aware of what is coming into your mist if you stand in it.

Thanks again...but Bio Soldier I think is bad luck. I enjoy playing him and almost at Level 8 but have yet seen a single Rare weapon, only a few blue and have got more White than Green and Blue combined. I'm using a Green Shotgun, Rifle and Boomerang. With the Saboteur I was getting Blues and even a rare or two every mission.

Yea...when Horde is announced I try to do a circle or at least a bunch on one side...and they do fall over right away. That's cool with three trails. I was wearing out the Heal and the team I was on constantly called out Nice. I wished I could've stayed and played more with them...two Tanks and two Bio-Specialists . Not a bad combo.

Feel a little better now that I got the Bio-Specialist up to Level 16 last night. Got in several good groups with a few staying together for 2-3 runs straight. Plus it helped getting three Legendary as well; two I'm using a Level 16 Rifle and Level 14 Shotgun. You almost need the Healer aspect going higher. We had two in the group and it helped a lot. I went back to getting my Saboteur back up to around 16, he is Level 14 now....game just rocks.

I do wish they would make easier to swap characters when you get in a match. Something like in Diablo you can get out of the match, change characters and come back in in no time flat. A side pop-up menu where you could choose your character....providing you had more.

Finished the "Campaign" last night with both characters but I'm confused as to where I go from there. Another window popped up about some side missions, tougher enemies and more XP.

Is it starting the campaign all over but at a higher level, just doing a bunch of random or specific missions that are highlighted? And is this solo or with others?

Really a good game and I hope they figure out on expanding it with not just maps and missions but at least another type of character.

I did get into some Veteran matches last night when trying to do that last Ship Mission....I was going down about every minute. Is your armor & health that good at Level 18-20?