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pinata242 04-21-16 05:45 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I like that they fixed Ventress so that her healing spell now takes away enemy buffs instead of her own. Now it makes sense. If they make it so it heals the team for even half what she gets, she would absolutely be an A-lister. For now, she and Talia are on my Scoundrel C-team with Boba, STHan, and Lando.

pinata242 04-21-16 06:11 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Talia's Water of Life is supposed to take 20% of her "max health". Instead it takes 20% of "max health + max protection" and steals from the latter first. It should not. She she be hurting herself under the protection for much less. Then some other healer can heal her back up or even her own attacks. Again, possible A-lister if they get it right, especially on a NS team. Holy shit!

DVD Josh 04-21-16 06:47 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12783546)
Talia's Water of Life is supposed to take 20% of her "max health". Instead it takes 20% of "max health + max protection" and steals from the latter first. It should not. She she be hurting herself under the protection for much less. Then some other healer can heal her back up or even her own attacks. Again, possible A-lister if they get it right, especially on a NS team. Holy shit!

The devs are aware of the Talia issue and supposedly are working on it. I've always liked Talia. I will probably star her up eventually.

pinata242 04-21-16 07:03 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Just finished #8 in PVP. Had my eye on #4 but someone knocked me down before I could start that final match. Had to return the favor in less than 2 minutes, but I did thanks to auto and manual targeting.

Imprint 04-21-16 08:44 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Is it too late to get a spot? Since posting my toons, I've 7* Bariss. Also, QGJ, JC, and Eeth are ready to promote to 7* when the next Yoda event comes.

DVD Josh 04-21-16 08:55 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by Imprint (Post 12783627)
Is it too late to get a spot? Since posting my toons, I've 7* Bariss. Also, QGJ, JC, and Eeth are ready to promote to 7* when the next Yoda event comes.

I don't think so. He is going to keep the 20 open for us for Sunday night. After that I think we just need to get full.

JuryDuty 04-21-16 10:08 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 12783467)
I think I would have rather pulled by ball hairs out individually than play through that GW today. SOMETHING needs to be done about protection in GW. It's insane.

You guys are scaring me with the end game. :D I literally played through GW today in about 25 minutes. Never even had to switch my team out. Easiest day I ever had...

QGJ (lead), Lumi, Phasma, GS, JC...level 66-67.

Imprint 04-21-16 11:04 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Just in case I wasn't clear, I definitely want to join the guild.

So, tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday just play like normal (get dailies, all challenges, shard farm, GW)? In case the update goes live early enough Sunday, I will try to have full cantina energy and crystals for a refresh.

As I mentioned, I have 3 jedi that are ready to promote to 7*. I could promote 2 of them, but it would wipe out my credits. I was going to wait until the next Yoda event, but I can promote now if I need to.

Working on: GS (25/100), Daka (40/65), IG-88 (11/50), and PtL (53/80). Any reason to change focus right now?

mh4268 04-22-16 07:25 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I just 7* Old Ben, up next Dooku. I am looking forward to having a 6/7 Dooku. I love that guy.

I 7* QGJ yesterday. With cantina credits, I think I need to go Ahsoka, I have her at 5 currently. She will be needed ^* for next Yoda event. I don't have 5s or Daka started at all. I would start Daka next since my DS squad is lagging behind my LS by quite a bit.

I like these Omega battles, super easy. Free 112000 credits daily, and ability mats if you have the characters. I have 3 at least 5 days I think. Hardest part is remembering to log into challenge section

Chowbacca 04-22-16 09:01 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
If there is room I would like to join the guild. Many thanks!

DVD Josh 04-22-16 09:21 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Latest (18 - CLOSED)

DVD Josh (O)
Pinata (O)
JNielsen
JuryDuty
meer
stp115
Gooter
chase3001
Hokeyboy
mh4268
cruzness
JasonF
story
buldrhm
tlwizard
19K
Imprint
Chowbacca

I have been informed that Chowbacca got the last slot. Anyone in the guild must accept the invite by Sunday night!

If there is room on Monday I will post something on the forum.

Gooter 04-22-16 09:57 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I downloaded the Line app and joined the Casual Elite line as Gooter. Anything else I need to do?

pinata242 04-22-16 10:36 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by Imprint (Post 12783743)
So, tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday just play like normal (get dailies, all challenges, shard farm, GW)? In case the update goes live early enough Sunday, I will try to have full cantina energy and crystals for a refresh.

From what I understand, this is correct. We should try to have max or near-maximum energy when the Guild becomes active so all of our effort goes into the pool of completions.

Josh, do you agree?

Do we know roughly when this update will hit? Server-side updates are usually around 5-6pm EST but these app store/major updates are complete mysteries to me.

DVD Josh 04-22-16 11:06 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12784041)
From what I understand, this is correct. We should try to have max or near-maximum energy when the Guild becomes active so all of our effort goes into the pool of completions.

Josh, do you agree?

Do we know roughly when this update will hit? Server-side updates are usually around 5-6pm EST but these app store/major updates are complete mysteries to me.

Here's the datamined schedule:


Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 12779937)
Spoiler:


Guild daily events:

Monday
1: 495 LS battles
2: 1238 LS battles
3: 2228 LS battles
4: 3466 LS battles
5: 5198 LS battles
6: 7425 LS battles
7: 9900 LS battles

Tuesday
1: 30 GW stages
2: 74 GW stages
3: 133 GW stages
4: 207 GW stages
5: 310 GW stages
6: 443 GW stages
7: 590 GW stages

Wednesday
1: 279 HB
2: 279 HB
3: 502 HB
4: 781 HB
5: 1171 HB
6: 1673 HB
7: 2230 HB GW stages

Thursday
1: 27 daily challenges
2: 67 daily challenges
3: 120 daily challenges
4: 186 daily challenges
5: 279 daily challenges
6: 398 daily challenges
7: 530 daily challenges

Friday
1: 495 DS battles
2: 1238 DS battles
3: 2228 DS battles
4: 3466 DS battles
5: 5198 DS battles
6: 7425 DS battles
7: 9900 DS battles

Saturday
1: 25 PvP battles
2: 63 PvP battles
3: 113 PvP battles
4: 176 PvP battles
5: 263 PvP battles
6: 375 PvP battles
7: 500 PvP battles

Sunday
1: 153 cantina battles
2: 383 cantina battles
3: 689 cantina battles
4: 1072 cantina battles
5: 1607 cantina battles
6: 2295 cantina battles
7: 3060 cantina battles

What you can take from this - if the schedule holds - is that you can do certain things on Sunday without too much worry - PvP, GW, Challenges and Events. Otherwise I would wait on doing anything UNLESS you risk missing your daily rewards.

This was proposed energy savings from a private reddit:
Spoiler:

You get 77 crystals per day from your dailies and completing GW. If you are in the top 100, you get another 100 crystals per day. You get 200 crystals total for the monthly log in. If you buy the $10.99 crystal booster pack and keep it fresh, you should average around 287 or so crystals per day in a 30 day month. Finish a bracket or two higher in arena each day or maybe buy an extra $5 bag of crystals and you are golden.

Below I am going to break down each days challenges and how you can get the amount of points to do your part as one of the 50 people in your guild. I will give you a maximum amount of battles you can do the number it will take to pull your weight and the amount you have to spare (in case you don’t want to wake up at 1 in the morning and start hitting sim). Special note, no matter what, you need to always do your daily quests. These give you valuable xp, crystals, and other goodies.

Let’s go in order for the days of the week:

Sunday This is the Cantina challenge. To get Tier 7 rewards, your guild needs to complete 3,060 Cantina Battles. That comes out to 61.2 battles per person. Here’s how you do it. Start the night before. You want your cantina energy to be at full. Then do your 100 and 200 crystal refresh. Cantina energy refills pretty slowly only 120 per day, so you’re not going to be able to do any Cantina battles a full 24 hours before you refresh. If you can keep your finger off the trigger, you will start the next day with your max, plus the refreshes (370 or so cantina energy). If you were to use that energy as soon as the day resets and use your 100 and 200 crystal refreshes, you would get another 360 cantina energy. So, if you are 100% optimal and stretch it all the way to the end, your cantina energy is going to be 730 energy (give or take a couple depending on your level cap).
The Absolute maximum amount of battles at the 8 energy node that you can do is 91.25. You need to do 61.2 to pull your weight, so you have approximately 30 battles or 240 cantina energy you can use to farm higher level loads, do only one refresh, and maybe get some sleep.

Monday Light Side Battles. To get the Tier 7 reward, your guild needs to complete 9,900 Light Side Battles. That’s 198 per person. Much like the Cantina energy, this one starts the day before. For the maximum amount of energy you can have, you need to have capped your energy (130 or so) before the noon free energy. Get that one and the two later on. Do the 50/50/100/100 refresh and this will end your day with 745 energy. This energy generates twice as fast as cantina energy, so if you were to hit sim immediately after the restart, do your 50/50/100 refresh, and claim all 3 of your free energy dailies. You will have another 855 energy total for that day. So if you do everything perfect, you’re going to have ,1600 energy to spend. The absolute maximum amount of 6 energy battles that you can do will be 266. The average for your team needs is 91.25 so you’ll have about 280 energy to use for higher energy nodes, hard node battles, dark side battles, sleep, or save a refresh.

Tuesday Galactic War. This one’s easy. No gems required here. The guild needs 590 Galactic War nodes total. That’s 11.8 per person. You can get 12.

Wednesday Complete 2230 Hard Mode Battles. For your guild to make it, you need to finish 44.6 hard mode battles each. Using the same crystal count and energy numbers from above, if you max it out, you can finish 133 battles. So you’ll have about 1068 energy left. Obviously, there’s a lot of wiggle room on this one. You can farm higher energy hard nodes, not save from the day before, not do several refreshes and save gems, etc.

Thursday A challenging Endeavor. It takes 530 Daily Challenge completions for to get Tier 7 gear on this one. That’s 10.6 per person. You can only do 8. So to complete this, they are going to either: A). Allow you to refresh the challenge with gems. B). Open up additional challenges on this day. C.) Count Events (Like Omega, Profit Mining, etc.) as challenges. I’m guessing it will be A, which won’t be that bad because Thursday is the STR challenge with the purple blow dryer drops. I’m hoping for this, but they might punish us by making us do the profit mining one.

Friday The power of the Dark Side. Exactly the same as the light side… but darker.

Saturday Your guild needs 500 pvp attempts. That’s attempts, not wins so that comes out to 10 per person. You get 5 for free. One 50 gem refresh gives you 5 more. There’s your 10. And, if your 50 gems gets you into a higher bracket, the extra gems you get as a reward will wash out the 50 you spent.


So as you can see, it's possible with planning to really do alot even as F2P. But this in general shows you what you should be doing day to day regarding the allocation of resources.

DVD Josh 04-22-16 11:16 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Since the devs have stated the update will hit Sunday NIGHT PDT, I think that nothing will count and that day will be used only for starting the guild and getting membership. But I could be wrong. In any event, if you avoid doing any Cantina that day until the update hits and hold off on using any unnecessary energy, we should be fine either way.

JuryDuty 04-22-16 11:24 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
I gotta say though, those numbers are crazy. On Monday, for instance, EACH member must complete 198 hard battles to receive the best reward? What are the statistical chances of that happening? I'd say pretty much zero, even with a strongly coordinated effort. All you need is for one guy to have enough of a life to only do 197 battles (!) and you don't make it.

Seriously, what are they thinking? These numbers should be cut in half. The only one that seems to be realistic is Tuesday, and even then it only works if everyone makes it all the way through. Seriously??

pinata242 04-22-16 11:25 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Oh geez, now I have to think about shit a full 24 hours in advance?

I think maybe we should translate this into a simple Google Doc that everyone in CE can reference at any time.

I don't think anyone is going to spend 600 crystals per day to maximize the LS and DS battles as described in that.

pinata242 04-22-16 11:26 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Then again, I guess if I ONLY do LS/DS battles on those two days, 1200 over the week isn't that big of a deal. I'm already doing 200/day.

I would just change my routine.

JuryDuty 04-22-16 11:31 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12784111)
Then again, I guess if I ONLY do LS/DS battles on those two days, 1200 over the week isn't that big of a deal. I'm already doing 200/day.

I would just change my routine.

So currently, I do all of those items each day. Are you saying you'd change the routine to buying your energy in the Cantina (for instance) every day, but then only PLAY the Cantina on Sundays? (Aside from daily quests.)

Wow...that's a whole new way of looking at gameplay for me... It actually might save quite a bit of time to night fight each one each day.

pinata242 04-22-16 11:35 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
So I count roughly <s>2,150</s> (2,050 with the new Sa/Su math) crystals per week needed for this.

Sunday: 600 (or 400) = 300 Cantina (or 100 if you refresh Cantina on Saturday) + 300 regular to be used on Monday
Monday: 300 regular
Tuesday: 300 + X = 300 regular to be used Wednesday + 0 GW(unless you need to restart which costs X)
Wednesday: 300 = 300 regular
Thursday: 300 + Y = 300 regular to be used Friday + Y Challenges (Unknown if necessary or even possible)
Friday: 300 regular
Saturday: 50 = 50 for a PVP 5-match refresh (or 150 = 50 + 100 for Sunday Cantina)

So, and I know this is ugly right now, but I'm just going off the top of my head, you have at least:

Su: 400
Mo: 300
Tu: 300 + X
We: 300
Th: 300 + Y
Fr: 300
Sa: 150

Total: 2,050 + X + Y, depending on your circumstances. That's less than 300/day. I'm already spending 400/day.

I think this is doable if I'm reading it right. It will just change how we all play every day.

JuryDuty 04-22-16 11:40 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
So I'm needing to break this down to what I'd actually need to do to do my part. I think this will dramatically change the way I normally play.

For F2P, is this right?

Daily

* Do all your Daily Challenges, but nothing extra.

* Do full Galactic War.

* Do full Challenges.

* Do full PVP.

* Buy 1 Cantina energy refresh, and 3 regular energy refreshes. (300
crystals spent daily.)

Sunday

* Burn through ALL of your Cantina energy accumulated during the week.

Monday

* Burn through 198 Light Side battles, regular mode. (Preferably 6 energy each to save energy--farm gear.)

Tuesday

* Do nothing extra.

Wednesday

* Burn through 45 Hard Mode battles. (Preferably 12 energy each to save energy--farm shards.)

Thursday

* Do nothing extra.

Friday

* Burn through 198 Dark Side battles, regular mode. (Preferably 6 energy each to save energy--farm gear.)

Saturday

* Run through PVP a second time. (Spending 50 crystals.)

story 04-22-16 11:53 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Um... I just play a few times per day for fun.

What kind if guild is this going to be?

pinata242 04-22-16 11:59 AM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 
Kind of. There's a bit more nuance to it than that.

For example, to maximize your Sunday Cantina energy, you need to only do your minimum on Saturday (3x8=24 energy) so that during that 24 hours you reach maximum through free recharges every 12 minutes. Then, once that happens, you need to spend 100 crystals on SATURDAY to go into Sunday with 250+. Then you burn through those as soon as you can on Sunday, preferably at 1am (:rolleyes:), and spend another 100 on Sunday and spend as much free as you can ...

As I type this out, I realize that I'm half right. The math from reddit has you doing this PLUS 200 on Saturday and Sunday. So you need to add 400 to my 2,050 math above.

Anyway, long story short:

Saturday: Do your requisite 3. Once it maxes at 130+, spend 300 for +240.
Sunday: As early as you can (preferrably 1am), spend your 370+ energy so the recharge can begin. Sleep. Over the course of the day, spend another 300 for +240 plus all the free stuff you're getting for a max of 120.

So you're spending 600 between Sa & Su to get 130+240+240+120 = 730 (max).

To hit your 61.2, you can spend an average of 12 energy/battle assuming you get 730. If you spend only 8, you might be able to skip a purchase or get more sleep or something.

pinata242 04-22-16 12:00 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by story (Post 12784133)
Um... I just play a few times per day for fun.

What kind if guild is this going to be?

That math came from reddit, not our guild. We don't have to strive to hit tier 7, obviously.

JuryDuty 04-22-16 12:00 PM

Re: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes (iOS & Android)
 

Originally Posted by story (Post 12784133)
Um... I just play a few times per day for fun.

What kind if guild is this going to be?

That's kind of my point. They've made it VERY difficult for casual guilds to exist, which is why I think they need to cut the requirements in half.

That said, maybe by figuring out the best formula, we can still play casually while also advancing the guild.


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