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T-bone22 06-30-14 01:46 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Actually squeezed into the top 25 for this last PVP at 24th. Twice now recently I've been shielded and pushed to 26th at the last couple of minutes. Twenty fucking six.

Deftones 06-30-14 02:27 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
back guys. sorry. been crazy few weeks. so they nerfed OBW's healing? how was it nerfed? anything else i missed?

fujishig 06-30-14 03:02 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
All healing that affects other players (ie: non Wolvie healing) goes away after the match is over, it's only good for temporary in-match healing. So the lowest hit points you have in a match, that's what your characters will be set to after the match. No more prologue healing.

Deftones 06-30-14 03:04 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
ah man, that sucks balls. she was the only real reason to keep using her, since her healing helped everyone.

Gooter 06-30-14 03:11 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Yes, it does suck but I still use her and had to change my strategy. Before, I wouldn't go for the early blue matches unless I was denying an enemy blue match (if going up against OBW or CS) or if I was down hitpoints early. Now, I try to match blue early and use her power right away unless I haven't lost many hitpoints. My reasoning is I'm trying to keep my team's lowest hitpoint level as high as possible. It's far from perfect and definitely prefer the old healing mechanic but it seems to be doing ok so far.

maxfisher 06-30-14 04:04 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Since they nerfed OBW's healing, I've switched back to Magneto & Storm for PVPs. I have to break more often to let health regen, but forgot just how quickly those two can wipe out other teams if you can get purple and blue for your first 3-4 matches. Still using OBW for PVE, more for her timer delay than healing ability.

fujishig 06-30-14 04:12 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Yeah, her steal, timer delay for PvE, and extra damage if she's boosted for purple/blue/black is all pretty useful still. She was definitely the top tier 2* character, but now she's really, really squishy.

For those who only got one Punisher cover, on the bright side green is his best ability. Maxed to put out three strike tiles, it's one of the best abilities in the game (I realize red is sexier, but trust me).

DaveNinja 07-01-14 11:23 AM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
OBW is still okay in PvP when you're fighting a team with CS. You can steal her blues and if you start the battle hurt, heal yourself up. I've been using different team ups while i wait for health regen so thats been fun.
I got my 10 heroics for season 3, i had a few gold covers but mostly useless 2*s. I got my first useless (for me) 3* cover in the form of a Falcon blue power. My falcon is like 1/5/0 but i still get blue covers.

Gooter 07-01-14 11:57 AM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Ground my way up to #2 in the last round of the PvE event. Out of my 3x Heroic cover rewards, 2 were duplicates and promptly sold, and 1 was useable, an Ares cover.... finally! I need one more to level him up fully (2/5/5) but will still need 1 more green cover for the best build. Having said that, is 4/4/5 still considered the best build for Ares?

fumanstan 07-01-14 01:53 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Apparently a leveling change is coming...

http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.p...3c38b48f884cc9


We're currently planning on making a change (likely during the week of 7/1) to alter the starting levels of each of the rarities of characters past 1*. The max levels will be shifted according to this same amount, making the new top ends change accordingly. Characters will automatically shift the number of current levels equivalent to their rarity. This change will be retroactive, so all characters in the game will automatically be adjusted to the new levels. These changes are intended to make gaining a brand new rarer character immediately useful for those players topped out or transitioning from one rarity level to another. The changes to levels are as follows:

CODE: SELECT ALL
Rarity Current (Base) Current (Cap) New (Base) New (Cap) Change
1* 1 50 1 50 +0
2* 6 85 15 94 +9
3* 15 141 40 166 +25
4* 30 230 70 270 +40


Leveling costs are unchanged with those costs simply shifted as well. So a 3* character leveling from 15->16 will cost the same amount as a post-shift 3* leveling from 40->41.
The chart isn't formatting well, so hit the link to see it better since i'm too lazy to fix it :p

pinata242 07-01-14 02:20 PM

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That definitely will help push people into the 3* and 4* arena quicker. I'm on board. Good to know that I don't need to rush to spend ISO to level up before the change hoping to get a bigger bang now!

fujishig 07-01-14 02:39 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 12155698)
That definitely will help push people into the 3* and 4* arena quicker. I'm on board. Good to know that I don't need to rush to spend ISO to level up before the change hoping to get a bigger bang now!

On the opposite side, it seems to make 2*s less useful. Since there are so many 3*s now, the likelihood of getting 13 covers for one goes way way down, so I'd think newbies would get even more screwed because they can't even rely on the 2*s they've built up while waiting for more 3*s.

Supermallet 07-01-14 07:31 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Fuck how they nerfed the healing. I don't have enough tanks and I'm losing fights left and right trying different combos of lesser powered characters.

fujishig 07-01-14 07:43 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12156283)
Fuck how they nerfed the healing. I don't have enough tanks and I'm losing fights left and right trying different combos of lesser powered characters.

It's supposed to get you to use other characters. Which takes money and time to collect and level. But in no way was it to try to get you to buy a bunch of health packs. Nope. Just an unfortunate side effect.

My problem is admittedly minor, but boosted Punisher is tanking everything. Since he has the same colors as Hulk, Hulk is useless except on defense as a deterrent to stop the endless pain that is getting attacked in PvP. And Punisher takes forever to heal!

Against my better judgment, I spent hero points on that fifth blue for Magneto. Makes such a huge difference, but I know he's going to be nerfed next... but I didn't really have a decent option as a third character for this PvP. Wolverine also has green and red (and won't tank), OBW dies if you look at her funny, and Ares also duplicates green and red (though at least has a yellow).

maxfisher 07-02-14 07:18 AM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
I'll be interested to see what happens following the levels change. I've currently got five level-85 2*s and six 3*s at levels 77 - 79. I'd been keeping the latter below 80 to try to keep my matchmaking against 2* teams in PVP events. Now those 3*s will be higher than my top 2*s, so does that mean I'm going to constantly be going up against 3* teams? If that's how it turns out, it may push me away from playing, as my roster is in no position to compete with people who've maxed out two or more 3*s and the PVP events are the primary way I'm getting 3* covers these days.

DaveNinja 07-02-14 11:20 AM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
looks like i'm going to have to drop a couple 2*s to make room for the 3* Dr Doom and hopefully She Hulk. I never use Moonstone or 2* Cap so they're likely to go.

the leveling change sounds good to me. My middle of the road 3*s can now compete with fully specced 2*s.

pinata242 07-02-14 11:22 AM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
I couldn't quite crack top 25 here at the end for my first blue Doom cover. He's maxed on black, but that's very limiting alone.

Gooter 07-02-14 11:45 AM

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I ended up 31st.... so close. I did earn my 10 pack Heroic reward for this season. Got 3x *** and 1x **** and 6 non-useable **.

Question, the 4* reward was Wolverine. Is it worth keeping him? That is my only cover for him and I don't have any open roster spots.

Also, what do you do with 3* heroes? Do you keep all of them or only the ones you want? I tend to keep them but not sure that is the way to go either.

DaveNinja, I need to drop some 2* too or even a 1*. I don't use Moonstone either but come across her quite a lot in PvP so I've been leary of dropping her. I also have Bullseye and M.Hawk. I will probably keep Cap as I hear he is average in PvE.

Groucho 07-02-14 12:04 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
They state that the healing nerf was to prevent prologue healing...but if that's the case, then it should restore you to whatever levels you were at before the battle, rather than reversing the healing at the end of the battle and retaining any new damage.

fujishig 07-02-14 12:08 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Cap is actually really good in PvE if you max out some of his colors, because he can transform enemy tiles. He's not as good as 3* cap, of course, but still useful.

Modern Hawkeye should get a boost soon (I think the devs said 3* Magneto nerf and MHawkeye were the next two in line to be balanced). Might be worth keeping him to see what they do.

X-Force Wolverine is also one that's supposed to be balanced (upward) eventually, and the level change is partly to make those 4* characters stand out. However, it'll be a while before you get a lot of covers for him (keep in mind, though that eventually you will get one of each color for him free from the daily rewards, around day 150 or so).

pinata242 07-02-14 12:21 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 12156905)
They state that the healing nerf was to prevent prologue healing...but if that's the case, then it should restore you to whatever levels you were at before the battle, rather than reversing the healing at the end of the battle and retaining any new damage.

Agreed, this how I thought it would be. Of course if you were used to ending every battle with 100% health anyway, then it wouldn't have been a change except for those rare instances when the opponents get lucky cascades and lead the battle.

maxfisher 07-02-14 12:51 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Got 10th in the Punisher PVP, so 2 Doom covers. After leveling him up, he's now boosted to 116 in the current PVP. So far, I feel like having a PVP's featured 3* boosted to over 100 has helped me, as it seems like I don't get thrown up against the crazy 3* teams too often, but people shy off on attacking a bit.


Originally Posted by Gooter (Post 12156872)
Also, what do you do with 3* heroes? Do you keep all of them or only the ones you want? I tend to keep them but not sure that is the way to go either.

I keep all my 3*s, but I also dropped $20 during a Hero Points sale several months back and opened up a lot of spots. If you don't mind spending a little real money on the game, it's a good way to go, especially considering that all the PVP events have a featured 3*. Otherwise, I'd probably use the guide that's been posted here a handful of times to pick which ones you want to concentrate on.


Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 12156905)
They state that the healing nerf was to prevent prologue healing...but if that's the case, then it should restore you to whatever levels you were at before the battle, rather than reversing the healing at the end of the battle and retaining any new damage.

Yeah, it's bullshit. I also hate the way they visually handle the temp healing. I've prematurely used OBW's blue quite a few times in PVE because it looks like my health's lower than it really is for the match.


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 12156913)
X-Force Wolverine is also one that's supposed to be balanced (upward) eventually, and the level change is partly to make those 4* characters stand out. However, it'll be a while before you get a lot of covers for him (keep in mind, though that eventually you will get one of each color for him free from the daily rewards, around day 150 or so).

That's interesting to know. I'm at day 141 and currently have 4 Yellows & 1 Red for him. I could push him up to 91 now, which would be 131 after the level adjustment. With three more covers, I'm guessing I could get him to 175 or so, but I don't know if it'd be worth it until I can get a couple good 3* into a similar range.

pinata242 07-02-14 01:56 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 

Originally Posted by Facebook
The character level shift is going live today. Once this goes live, players are recommended to play a Versus match in each of the current active Versus Tournaments to assure the updates take into effect for their own defending teams.


Gooter 07-02-14 02:07 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Time to buy some more HP then since I can't seem to part with any of my heroes. :D

Prophecy 07-02-14 05:08 PM

Re: Marvel Puzzle Quest: Dark Reign
 
Hello guys,
Sorry been out of touch for quiet a while. Been busy with office project and working like 18 hrs a day. Anyhow bad news is my bloody phone has crashed. It stopped charging completely and warranty is for another country so no chance of getting it repaired.
Now will gather a bit money and go for another one. Till then I won't be able to contribute.

I guess this game can be played on computer, if so, please let me knw how if anyone knws.
Cheers,
Khurram


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