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fumanstan 07-07-16 09:55 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
There are a few manufacturer's that make video cards that fit in ITX cases.

Gigabyte has a 1070 coming out - http://www.anandtech.com/show/10464/...0-mini-itx-oc-

ASUS has a 970 - https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/GTX970DCMOC4GD5/

A Geforce 1060 just got announced, which is a little shorter then the 1070/1080, but i'm not sure if it will fit.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/...-release-date/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10474/...x-1060-july-19

Noonan 07-07-16 10:00 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Cool; thanks! I knew about the Radeon Nano cards but I don't want to deal with switching GPU type. Not sure how much an upgrade a 970 would be from a 950 (any idea?) so I'd probably wait for the 1070 if it's not too expensive.

Also, I'm not sure if my case uses an ITX MB. Do these cards require that to work? Would the back of the card reach the back of my case to install when I plug it in? The card I have now is about 170mm.

fumanstan 07-07-16 10:29 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 12843826)
Cool; thanks! I knew about the Radeon Nano cards but I don't want to deal with switching GPU type. Not sure how much an upgrade a 970 would be from a 950 (any idea?) so I'd probably wait for the 1070 if it's not too expensive.

Also, I'm not sure if my case uses an ITX MB. Do these cards require that to work? Would the back of the card reach the back of my case to install when I plug it in? The card I have now is about 170mm.

A 970 would be a pretty significant upgrade over a 950, but a 1070 is a pretty big leap over the 970 too so if you have the patience it would probably be nice to wait. I'm not sure when that Gigabyte card will actually come out though.

As for ITX, it's just a small form factor designation, there's nothing else unique about the cards other then that the length meets the spec of the motherboard/case so that they should fit universally. Otherwise it's just a standard PCI-E video card so probably nothing special you would need to worry about.

RichC2 07-07-16 12:19 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Hell, the 1060 performs like the 980 and is $249.

Noonan 07-07-16 12:21 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12844055)
Hell, the 1060 performs like the 980 and is $249.

Yeah, I'd really like to get into the 10xx series but I'm not sure if I want to wait for a smaller version to launch. If there were a mini 1060 for $249, I'd order one instantly.

RichC2 07-07-16 12:23 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Ah I missed your ITX comment.

fumanstan 07-07-16 12:26 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
It might be worth waiting a couple weeks to see what the other manufacturers do with the 1060 since they should be out soon. From the Anandtech article -


In terms of design, the GTX 1060 Founders Edition unsparingly ends up being a slightly smaller version of the common design shared by the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 Founders Edition cards. The full care measures 9.75-inches long, 0.75-inches shorter than the GTX 1080/1070. Of that, only 6.75-inches is the actual reference PCB, with the final 3-inches housing the sole 6-pin power connector, the rest of the heatsink, and the radial blower fan. Given the size of the PCB, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some fairly small semi-custom cards come out of the partners, pairing up the PCB with smaller coolers.
Although something tells me most of the companies will just slap on existing coolers at first.

Noonan 07-07-16 12:29 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
9.75 is still a bit long for my case but it's a good sign. IIRC, my case maxes out at 220mm.

I guess another option all together which I haven't put too much thought into is buying a new case and transferring everything over so I can fit a full size card. I wasn't looking to go to that extent. The mini 970 is sounding like my best option at the moment.

Noonan 07-07-16 12:35 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
I searched on Newegg and this appears to be the case I have:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811353044

The spec sheet says up to 230mm but I believe I was told 220. Maybe that was just to be safe. The 950 I have now is ~175mm. So from this, it does appear I'm using an ITX MB?

fumanstan 07-07-16 12:41 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Yeah, if the case is ITX the your motherboard would be the same form factor.

I looked up the 970 and the reviews aren't great, seems like there's cooling and overheating problems :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

Noonan 07-07-16 12:45 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
I read those same reviews. Do you think they would hold true for the Asus version of the card as well? Or does the manufacture make a difference for that type of issue?

Oh, and thanks for all your replies! I feel so out of touch with PC building...

fumanstan 07-07-16 12:50 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 12844100)
I read those same reviews. Do you think they would hold true for the Asus version of the card as well? Or does the manufacture make a difference for that type of issue?

Oh, and thanks for all your replies! I feel so out of touch with PC building...

I'd say it depends on the manufacturer, never know with each company's coolers. I bet with the 970 you could just underclock it a bit if you go that route and run in to trouble :p

Although honestly at the moment, I'd still say wait and see if any small 1060's come out, look for release dates on the 1070, and all else if you're really itching go for the 970 or an AMD Nano.

Noonan 07-08-16 07:53 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Placed an order for the mini 970. Amazon has it pretty cheap right now. I don't see myself upgrading from 1080 any time soon so it should fit all my needs and work in my case!

fumanstan 07-08-16 09:56 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Nice, I'm running a regular 970 and it runs everything I throw at it just fine at 2560x1440. Hopefully it works well for you :up:

lopper 07-08-16 10:16 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Over the last year, I've switched from playing games on both current consoles and my PC, to almost exclusively just my PC. With all the new GPUs coming out recently, I'm getting the itch to upgrade.

I know enough about computers to be dangerous, but that's about it. A few years ago I bought one from Digital Storm with the intention of upgrading it myself as time went on. These are my current specs, and I'm wondering what you guys think I should tackle first.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

I'm not really considering VR right now, so that's not a concern. But I'm more concerned about future proofing for the next couple years - getting games to run at ultra on a higher resolution display than I'm currently using.

Noonan 07-08-16 10:19 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 12845001)
Nice, I'm running a regular 970 and it runs everything I throw at it just fine at 2560x1440. Hopefully it works well for you :up:

Glad to hear. I've been holding off on starting Doom until I decided how to go with the GPU upgrade. Sounds like I'll be able to max out just about anything at 1080, which is all I need. Thanks again for the replies/help.

Noonan 07-08-16 10:22 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by lopper (Post 12845031)
Over the last year, I've switched from playing games on both current consoles and my PC, to almost exclusively just my PC. With all the new GPUs coming out recently, I'm getting the itch to upgrade.

I know enough about computers to be dangerous, but that's about it. A few years ago I bought one from Digital Storm with the intention of upgrading it myself as time went on. These are my current specs, and I'm wondering what you guys think I should tackle first.

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

I'm not really considering VR right now, so that's not a concern. But I'm more concerned about future proofing for the next couple years - getting games to run at ultra on a higher resolution display than I'm currently using.

The 770 is still a decent card. I'd guess it would run most things in 1080 at close to max settings. But if you're going to upgrade for the sake of gaming, I'd start there (which is exactly what I just did). With the new 10xx series coming out, there's good deals to be had on a 970/980...especially if you don't have the size restrictions like I do with a compact case.

Phodg 07-08-16 11:23 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
I'd wait a month or two and buy a 1070. Way faster than a 9 series, and should be good going forward for a while ...

http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1...mance-preview/

lopper 07-08-16 11:33 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Thanks for the info. I'm not in any hurry to upgrade, but it's been on my mind.

Assuming I do not have any size restrictions, and I don't think I should, the cards are basically just plug and play, correct? I can pop the old one out and put a new one in with little fuss?

fumanstan 07-08-16 11:51 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Yeah, the 770 is still solid, but out of all the components that would be the first thing to target. If you're wanting better performance, i'd try and wait for 1070 prices to come down to normal as well.

Phodg 07-08-16 01:02 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 

Originally Posted by lopper (Post 12845107)
Assuming I do not have any size restrictions, and I don't think I should, the cards are basically just plug and play, correct? I can pop the old one out and put a new one in with little fuss?

Yeah, all the cards I've bought the last few years have been hassle-free. Plug in, Windows handles the default drivers and then you can go and install the card-specific ones from the manufacturer's website.

Phodg 07-08-16 01:07 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Dammit. Doom is $28.88 at Green Man Gaming right now. Bought it for more than that in the Steam "sale" last week. :)

Noonan 07-11-16 07:49 AM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Success!
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8824/2...b8ef6fc9_c.jpg

Started up Witcher finally as well. Man, that game is beautiful.

Kenshiro 07-13-16 04:51 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
I was finally able to breakthrough NewEgg's ordering page and buy a GTX 1080.

fumanstan 07-13-16 04:54 PM

Re: PC Gaming Thread
 
Nice! I honestly didn't think my 970 would feel so out of date already :sad:


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