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PC Gamer has a nice article ranking the top 50 most important/influential PC games.

http://www.pcgamer.com/most-important-pc-games/

Pretty solid list. I might have replaced Myst with The 7th Guest since the latter really ushered in the CD-ROM as a platform since it came out about 6 months prior. But I can understand why they picked Myst since it was so huge.

Edit: I think Alone in the Dark should probably be on the list since it's basically the grandfather of the survival horror genre.

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Here's the full list, for those who hate clicking like me :p

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I also hate clicking to see lists, so thanks.

Its kind of weird they dont have the original Warcraft but do have Starcraft and WoW.

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Myst was definitely more influential, as it was much more popular and was cross-platform with the Mac.


It's likely hard to reach anything like a "definitive" list for PC games when limited to only 50, and there's going to be a tug-and-pull between listing certain titles. With Warcraft, for example, while it was the first Blizzard RTS, maybe they felt it didn't advance the genre as much as Starcraft did, while WoW is basically it's own beast with the same general setting as Warcraft.

On the last page they describe some of their reasoning/methodologies.
http://www.pcgamer.com/most-important-pc-games/#page-12

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As far as RTS goes I can see how Dune II fits the bill first before Warcraft as far as establishing strategy games. Brood War is on there because of it's Korea and eSports influence.

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Yup, reading the article would've helped :p

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I'm surprised to see Spelunky on there. I didnt know it was so important. I've never heard of Dwarf Fortress.

I would have thought Scorched Earth or Star Control 3 would have been on there. I guess in the pre-internet days, i didnt really know what games were popular

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Here's the blurb on Spelunky - I also don't know anything about the game or what makes it meaningful/.

I have no idea what Roguelikes is. :p

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I assume it means the randomly created levels. The only reason i know about Spelunky is because it was free on PSN. I would have never know it was considered "important" lol.

what was that spaceship commanding computer game from around 5 years back. i think it had a three letter name. It was simple graphics with lots of text but i was amazed at how fun it was. I would have thought it would have made the list

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A Roguelike is literally a game like the 1980 game Rogue. So it's a game genre in the same way that games in the FPS genre were originally called "Doom clones."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike

Spelunky is actually considered by some to be a "Roguelike-like," or a game with Roguelike elements, but not entirely Roguelike. Procedurally generated levels and permadeath are two main features of a Roguelike, and used in many Roguelike-like games. Spelunky is thus the game that made Roguelike-likes a thing, not Roguelikes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguel...2005-onward.29

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What are the best Pro Football and Pro Basketball games?

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Never heard of the game Rogue :shrug:

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i remember playing some version of it on an old IBM when i was in computer class in middle school. It wasnt nearly as cool as Ultima, though.

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Admittedly my knowledge of PC games is quite limited. But I remember quite a few on that list. I was surprised that Command and Conquer wasn't on there. Perhaps some of the games I'm not familiar with on the list are very similar to it?

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I'm guessing C&C wasn't considered different enough from Dune 2, especially considering the same game studio made both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer

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I figured there was a game like that on the list, I just didnt recognize it. Thanks.

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Atari Vault is coming to Steam in the spring. As someone who grew up with the Atari 2600 this is pretty exciting news.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/928...in-spring-2016

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300207666.html

Hopefully it's not too expensive. Doesn't say if the games are based on 2600, 5200, 7800, 800/800XL or arcade. Guess we'll find out at Pax South in a week.

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Finished Undertale. Enjoyable, but way overrated. Don't really understand the GOTY hype but its a cute game with some sweet moments and good music. The "meta" aspect is neat, but not a fan of the initial ending and I had to look up what to do. Not a fan of the first ending and having to to do more for a "true" one, which I did do and feels almost necessary to have a real closure for the game. Would rather they didn't bother with that just to extend the game play.

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So basically it's another Fez or Journey that's understandably well made but not terribly interesting to play?

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I only played a bit of Fez and never tried Journey - it's kind of the opposite where it's crudely made but somewhat more interesting to play just to see how things unfold? It was refreshing to see this little indie game be much different from the games we get these days, but the hype and praise people lump on it seem weird.

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Jet Set Radio (and other Sega games) free on Steam.

http://steamed.kotaku.com/jet-set-ra...-ri-1759494001

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Nice, thanks!

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More free games from SEGA. Streets of Rage 2, Binary Domain, and Condemned.

http://www.makewarnotlove.com/results.php

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HTC Vive is going to cost $799 :eek:

http://www.polygon.com/2016/2/21/110...-will-cost-799

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That a pretty good price IMO. I've tried both the vive and the rift and I like the vive much better. This doesn't include integrated audio like the rift but you can use you own headphones anyway which is nice. But it does include the controllers which work pretty good.

Now bring on the games.

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Greenman Gaming has pre-order keys for The Division on sale for $42.99 right now. >>> http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/e...ncys-division/

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Went on sale today, and HTC says they got 10,000 preorders in the first 10 minutes.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/29/ht...in-10-minutes/

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They corrected that to 15,000 preorders.

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My fiancee surprised me with an ASUS PG278Q monitor for our anniversary. G-Sync time! First time seeing it in action, only played around with Overwatch a bit but so far i'm impressed with how smooth it was. Hard to do a side by side comparison though. I'll need to try some other games.

I was on 27" 2560x1440 monitor already, but a little weird going from an IPS panel to a TN one and adjusting to the color and image quality.

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Yeah, 25x14 144Hz G-SYNC is glorious. That Asus panel is awesome but I wanted to see if an IPS-type display like that would come out. Once the Acer XB270HU released, I jumped on it.

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send me your old one if you're going to throw it away, lol.

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Haha, I actually need to figure out what to do with the old one. It's an HP ZR2740W, I still really like it but don't really have room on my desk for dual 27's.

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Is there any reason to go with an i7-6700 for a gaming PC, or is the i5-6600 more than sufficient, assuming I'm also getting a Nvidia 980 Ti card and 32gb of DDR4 RAM? Plan is to play on a 1080p monitor, but may try to hook it up to my 4k TV to see how that works out...

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I'd make sure to buy the K version of any CPU you buy. Some people don't like "dealing" with overclocking, but if you buy a motherboard that is overclocking friendly, then they often have software to make it very easy to deal with. I recommend the Asus Republic of Gamers series of motherboards, they are great for overclocking.

If you can budget it, getting the i7 *should* be more beneficial in the future as more and more games are multi-threaded (especially with all of the new api's basically demanding applications to be written for many-core systems).

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An i5 would probably be fine, but like flashburn said, more games should be going multi-threaded, so it could give you a little bit better performance in the long run.

I'm also probably going with an i7-6700k. I'll probably go with 16GB of RAM and one of the Asus ROG boards. I've used Asus for years, and have had good luck with them.

I've been running an i5-2500k for 5 years now. Upgraded the video card to a GTX970 last year, and I've been able to run most things well at 1920x1200, but feel like it's getting time to upgrade. I'd like to upgrade the monitor also, but I'll do that later.

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I'm still on a 2500K and pretty happy with it. Maybe next round of CPU's i'll finally upgrade :p

Also, plugging this :p

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Thanks guys. I think I'll spring for the i7-6700k. I'll hold off until after the weekend, but I'm hoping to get everything purchased by next Monday so I can start building. Haven't done it in years, so this should be fun. :) I'm adding some liquid cooling to the mix because :shrug: why not do something I'm completely unfamiliar with, right?

I'm still kind of confused about what I really need in a motherboard. You both recommend the ASUS RoG boards, but they seem... expensive? As long as it can enable some overclocking, has lots of USB ports, and allows me to add a second 980 down the road, I think that's all I need. On-board audio, too, I guess, but I'll be using headphones 99% of the time, not speakers.

Here's what I've got in my list so far. Feel free to give me tips on how to tweak it in one direction or another.

From my previous PC:
- Windows 10 Pro - I have a pre-existing license I can use for this
- cheap 1080p monitor. May replace with 1440/120Hz in a few months.
- 128GB Intel SSD. Small, but no need to replace right now...
- 1TB HDD
- Keyboard & Mouse

New components:
- Intel Core i7-6700K
- Corsair H100i v2 Liquid CPU Cooler
- Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 (or an ASUS equivalent? I always bought ASUS in the past)
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200 RAM
- EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Hybrid Video Card (liquid cooler pre-installed)
- EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Power Supply

All inside of:
- Fractal Design Define R5 - Black

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I have a Fractal Design Define R4, love their cases :up:

As for motherboards, i've always gone "cheaper" on them too and stuck with something in the $150 or less range. I just never saw the need for the more expensive ones, but then again I know I don't have much of an interest in going SLI either so I haven't needed more PCI-E lanes, fancier audio, built in wireless, and whatever else they like to throw in :p

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I have whatever the Fractal Design cube is for my server. Love the case. Cheap, well built, lots of expansion.

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Also, fuck Gigabyte. I don't care what the reviews say, I've been through like 4-5 Gigabyte motherboards over the years, and they always burn me. All sorts of weird firmware/bios issues, and some quality issues. I'm Asus for life at this point.

Personally I'd get an 80+ Bronze/Silver and use that money you saved to get an Asus RoG motherboard instead, especially since you're going liquid cooling, you obviously have overclocking in mind. They are worth it. Last I checked the ROI of Gold just wasn't worth the extra money. I know the cost of the RoG botherboards seems high, and as a person who always would go cheaper on motherboards, I would agree, until I actually got one. Everything from the build quality, to the features, to the bios, and the software, it's just all quality.

You could always do 2x8GB now, and add another 2x8GB in the future, if you're trying to be budget conscious.

You're smart holding off on buying an SSD. There's some shady shit going on right now with regards to pricing.