How long this time around (current gen consoles)?
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How long this time around (current gen consoles)?
In your opinion, how many years will the current console gen (Wii U, PS4, X1) last?
Most generations prior to the most recent generally had about a 5 year life cycle, while the most recent was significantly longer.
So what about the current gen? I would venture to guess that it might last 10 years.
What say you?
Most generations prior to the most recent generally had about a 5 year life cycle, while the most recent was significantly longer.
So what about the current gen? I would venture to guess that it might last 10 years.
What say you?
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The cycle might be over in 8-10 but we are likely to see another console around the seven year mark in 2020. That is if consoles keep chugging along and people are still interested in them. I hope so!
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Let's see... a quick check on years I think...
For Sony:
Playstation - 1994
Playstation 2 - 2000
Playstation 3 - 2006
Playstation 4 - 2013
For Nintendo
NES - 1983
SNES - 1991
N64 - 1996
Gamecube - 2001
Wii - 2006
Wii U - 2012
For Microsoft:
XBox - 2001
XBox 360 - 2005
XBox One - 2013
6-7 years seems like a safe bet, 2020 like dsa_shea mentioned sounds possible. Unless the industry crashes like some people are predicting
For Sony:
Playstation - 1994
Playstation 2 - 2000
Playstation 3 - 2006
Playstation 4 - 2013
For Nintendo
NES - 1983
SNES - 1991
N64 - 1996
Gamecube - 2001
Wii - 2006
Wii U - 2012
For Microsoft:
XBox - 2001
XBox 360 - 2005
XBox One - 2013
6-7 years seems like a safe bet, 2020 like dsa_shea mentioned sounds possible. Unless the industry crashes like some people are predicting
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It will greatly depend on the global economy in the First World. It will be on the shorter side of 5 to 7 years if one of the consoles does badly for whatever reason.
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I'm conflicted - I think gaming is way too big for there to be a crash again, but for some reason, I feel like this will be the last big console generation. The release of the PS4 and hype of the XB1 just feels so anti-climatic so far. This is the first time ever that I just don't hear anyone talking about them, absolutely no excitement or anticipation that I've noticed beyond forums. Hype and system launches in the mainstream were ridiculous from the N64 through the now-previous gen, which got to a point that I felt were "good enough". Maybe I'm too old, maybe I don't get out enough, maybe Sony just did a much better job meeting demand this time around. It's still incredibly early, of course, but it just doesn't "feel" like a traditional console launch at all.
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It's really hard to say right now. This could be the last true console "generation". The next consoles might be mostly cloud based. This could be the last generation of consoles where the devices in our house are actually processing the workloads. However, if that infrastructure isn't ready by then, I think we could see new consoles in the next 5 years or so. Since these consoles are more PC like, I could see them supporting both this generation systems and next generation ones at the same time for a while.
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I'm conflicted - I think gaming is way too big for there to be a crash again, but for some reason, I feel like this will be the last big console generation. The release of the PS4 and hype of the XB1 just feels so anti-climatic so far. This is the first time ever that I just don't hear anyone talking about them, absolutely no excitement or anticipation that I've noticed beyond forums. Hype and system launches in the mainstream were ridiculous from the N64 through the now-previous gen, which got to a point that I felt were "good enough". Maybe I'm too old, maybe I don't get out enough, maybe Sony just did a much better job meeting demand this time around. It's still incredibly early, of course, but it just doesn't "feel" like a traditional console launch at all.
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The demand is definitely there, I just don't know what the segment is anymore. I feel like being 32 and a lifetime gamer (as well as all of my friends and many co-workers) should put me among the target segment, but I certainly don't know anyone who has uttered anything about the systems other than "too expensive/too soon/not enough features".
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Last time around the amount of consoles available from online retailers was significantly smaller, and as I recall they were shipping on release day...not arriving then. Which meant for most people the only way to get a console was to stand in line and pick it up in person. Big lines and crowds = more hype and demand.
This is a much "quieter" launch because most people are staying home and letting the console come to them.
This is a much "quieter" launch because most people are staying home and letting the console come to them.
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I'm 33 now. I hope it happens at least by early 2020.
I really don't want to be able to now say that I'll be 40 years old before the next generation begins.
I really don't want to be able to now say that I'll be 40 years old before the next generation begins.
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I thought they were planning on making the PS4 and XB1 upgradeable? So by the the 5 year point we can have PS4.5 and XB1.5. But make it an option where we can still run the same game on both graphics cards.
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Last time around the amount of consoles available from online retailers was significantly smaller, and as I recall they were shipping on release day...not arriving then. Which meant for most people the only way to get a console was to stand in line and pick it up in person. Big lines and crowds = more hype and demand.
This is a much "quieter" launch because most people are staying home and letting the console come to them.
This is a much "quieter" launch because most people are staying home and letting the console come to them.
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I'm conflicted - I think gaming is way too big for there to be a crash again, but for some reason, I feel like this will be the last big console generation. The release of the PS4 and hype of the XB1 just feels so anti-climatic so far. This is the first time ever that I just don't hear anyone talking about them, absolutely no excitement or anticipation that I've noticed beyond forums. Hype and system launches in the mainstream were ridiculous from the N64 through the now-previous gen, which got to a point that I felt were "good enough". Maybe I'm too old, maybe I don't get out enough, maybe Sony just did a much better job meeting demand this time around. It's still incredibly early, of course, but it just doesn't "feel" like a traditional console launch at all.
Also more so than in the past, these consoles are a lot more evolutionary than revolutionary. They're not releasing games that couldn't be done on the previous consoles yet, and there's no big new hook like motion control or DVD/BD playback. The one console that arguably did bring something new is the Wii U, and that has its own share of problems.
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Ryse already blows everything on the PS3/360 completely out of the water graphically. Ryse is also a launch game, which means the developers are inexperienced with the hardware. Games in a couple years after developers get more experience will make Ryse look ugly.
I remember way back in the PS1/N64 days some people were saying they couldn't imagine graphics getting much better than Metal Gear Solid or Ocarina of Time. People were claiming diminishing returns even back then. And look where we are now. MGS and OoT look like feces compared to today's games.
You say you aren't blown away this gen like you were in previous gens? Most of that has to do with us as people just being older. Older people aren't as easily impressed as younger people.
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2020 sounds right to me, too, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was earlier. I think talk of the new systems will happen in 3-5 years.
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I think 2020 is a good guess, with 4K resolution and more photo-realistic graphics. I've seen some shots from ARMA 3 that are fairly realistic as is right now.
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4K? This gen isn't even running at full 1080p yet. PS5/XboxWhateverthefuck will finally get 1080p. Then the next-next-gen might finally get to 4k. There definitely won't be 4k games outside of PC gaming by 2020 though.
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Talking about PCs, unless AMD or Nvidia go belly up I don't see any slowdown in GPU progress. Nvidia's roadmap looks pretty interesting and a fairly big jump. Plenty of gamers are running three 1080p monitors, or more, with current technology. I'd say look at what PCs can do in 2017-2018 and we will have a good idea of what the next consoles will be able to do if released around 2020.
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But it can run at 1080p, given a certain FPS. 4K tvs are now starting to roll out so I'd say 4K is a definite goal for Sony and MS in 6-7 years.
Talking about PCs, unless AMD or Nvidia go belly up I don't see any slowdown in GPU progress. Nvidia's roadmap looks pretty interesting and a fairly big jump. Plenty of gamers are running three 1080p monitors, or more, with current technology. I'd say look at what PCs can do in 2017-2018 and we will have a good idea of what the next consoles will be able to do if released around 2020.
Talking about PCs, unless AMD or Nvidia go belly up I don't see any slowdown in GPU progress. Nvidia's roadmap looks pretty interesting and a fairly big jump. Plenty of gamers are running three 1080p monitors, or more, with current technology. I'd say look at what PCs can do in 2017-2018 and we will have a good idea of what the next consoles will be able to do if released around 2020.
Three monitors? That's old. Check out this six monitor setup running at 5760 x 2160. Personally I don't think I could stand playing on a multi-monitor setup because the bezels partially obstructing the view would drive me absolutely crazy.
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I couldn't do the six-screen setup because the central point of view is a bezel. However, I have been running three 24" Samsungs in nvSurround 5990x1200 since 2010, and it's pretty awesome. I don't even notice the bezels in-game.
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5990/3 = 1996.67
1920x1200 is a standard 16:10 resolution, but I have never heard of 1996x1200.