Maxflier

First I have heard about this game, but it looks pretty cool.

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foxdvd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrCiV4LOYk4

ok...this game seems to fill a niche between a game like Skyrim and a game like Dark Souls...

the above footage surprised the hell out of me...

foxdvd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid...&v=qEsVmmXQqWA

lopper

This game looks really good, but it's going to live or die depending on the quality of the pawn AI.

If their AI is shit, then as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter how good the rest of the game is.

foxdvd

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/hi...s-dogma/728681

foxdvd

Demo is up...

First, the game looks good in a weird way. It is hard to explain, but the screenshots don't do it justice...even the video clips don't capture the way it feels when you play.

The demo is not much of a demo...two battles basically...both boss fights, but they are fun.

I can see this being a big surprise for a lot of people...

One strange thing, when you do your character creation...the characters are of course just wearing rags...sort of half naked...and as I am scrolling through the choices, one of the body types is clearly a little girl...like maybe 9 or 10. It is a little creepy.

MoviePage

I enjoyed the demo, and the advanced buzz seems to be mostly positive with a few qualifiers.

I will definitely get it eventually, but I'm not sure about a preorder just yet.

mhg83

Japanese Developer?

Shagrath

Just to let you guys know a little more, this is supposed to be brutal hard. Here are a couple of examples.

One save file. If you fuck up, you have to start the whole game over.
Going to the inns heal you, but more importantly, they let you sleep until morning. This is very important for quests, as you don't want to get stuck out on the roads at night and die.
When you're hit, it decreases your max HP. Magic spells will only heal you up to your new cap. You'll have to drink potions or go to an inn in order to get back to your true max.

I have the demo downloaded (an old build, I guess), but haven't gotten around to it yet. It's definitely something I'm interested in though. Hopefully it appeals to me more than Skyrim, which I hated with a passion.

foxdvd

lol...yes..Capcom

foxdvd

another reason I want to try this out...I don't think it is going to be super hard though unless you don't plan out your actions...and go running around at night...you probably can reason out most of the hard parts..unlike Dark Souls when I was SURE I had everything worked out at times and was still bent over and violated....

Shagrath

I think it sounds super-cool too. However, I think most gamers of today are just going to get pissed off at it the first time they screw something up and have to start the whole fucking game over.

flashburn

I dunno, Demon's/Dark Souls seem to be selling pretty well, and I doubt this game will be more difficult than them.

foxdvd

I guess it depends on how you are punished when you die. In a lot of ways, when you get killed in Demon/Dark, it was a learning experience. If you get yourself into a situation in Dragon's Dogma that you can not get out of...and you keep getting killed, it might be more frustrating even if it is actually an easier game...

flashburn

Well, that just sounds like poor game design then. Unless of course it's just that you sucking is the reason why you keep dying. But that is no different than Souls.

Kedrix

Agreed. Difficulty is fine, but if it does not teach you something towards your next encounter, then it is just difficult for the sake of difficult which all points to...shotty game design.

Then again, I'm the complete opposite of Shagrath and absolutely adore Skyrim. So, despite the initial interest, I'll probably pass on this one.

Wolf359

I don't get why one save file means you you would have to start the whole game over. Just reload your last save.

mhg83

I think by only making one difficulty option available they're losing a lot more sales. I would get Dark Souls if they would patch an easy mode option. If there's no easy or normal mode in Dragons Dogma I won't buy it.

flashburn

Have you actually played Dark Souls? It isn't as difficult as it seems once you get used to it. You just have to learn from your mistakes.

Shagrath

What if you saved somewhere, and then realized that you can't make it out of said place back to safety? Maybe that means you should really only save in a safe place like a town, but then you might lose an hour of progress or more if you die really deep into a quest.

foxdvd

I think that is what some are worried about. Is there an auto save as well?

It is true, if you spend time with Dark Souls it can actually be an easy game. If you have a single save file on Dragon's Dogma, and you get stuck on something you can't get out of...you are stuck.

Still, from the demo it seemed super easy. I think the game does not scale like the Elder games, so as long as you don't go some place you are not ready for you should be ok.

Wolf359

Well that sucks and its inconvenient, but starting the whole game over is an exaggeration.

Still I'll think twice about this one now.

Shagrath

Not if you were dumb and saved in a shitty predicament you can't get yourself out of.

I haven't played the demo yet, so this is all what I've gleamed from reading previews and other people's comments.

flashburn

Finally played the demo. Seemed pretty fun, with some unique ideas. Overall though, it was easy as shit, and essentially just felt like a button masher with some RPG aspects. I'll probably rent it. Definitely no comparison to Dark Souls.

foxdvd

gameinformer gave it a 8.5

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