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Music 06-06-13 01:22 PM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 
Didn't Ocelot promise to leave this part of the forum years ago? or am I confusing him with someone else?

thelwig14 06-06-13 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11720326)
-screwy-

Uncharted was a bit of an improvement over TR but far from perfect. It was more immersive than the recent TR games but the puzzles were a joke, the gunplay was lacking, and the emphasis on shooting galleries really detracted from the experience. The icing on the cake was the supernatural crap that just killed whatever momentum the story had going for it.

Uncharted 2 improved on all those things but still suffered from the same shooting galleries and extreme linearity. I know I'm in the minority, but I think U3 finally improved on all aspects and was the best of the bunch, but I'd still put TR over all three of them.

Anyway, I'm in the dark on tLoU(haven't watched any trailers, checked out reviews or media), so I don't have any expectations thus far.


I enjoy the Uncharted series but I agree with everything you said.

Especially the goofy supernatural stuff and the awful shooting mechanics (baddies taking multiple rounds to go down).

Raul3 06-06-13 02:49 PM

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Uncharted is one of the best series this generation. And one of the best reasons to get a PS3. But yeah, I agree with Corvin. Except that Uncharted 2 is the best game of the series.

ivelostr2 06-06-13 02:57 PM

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DO any of those reviews mention multiplayer?

shumway 06-06-13 03:17 PM

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The IGN ones does. There are 2 different modes with both appearing to be competitive. I don't see co-op like Red Dead based on what I read.

edstein 06-06-13 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 11720219)
Huh... most of the reviews in posts above are 9.7 - 10.

Watch Polygon's video review if you get a chance. Those AI issues are pretty bad. When you go into cover, the AI many times will take the same cover as you and walk right through you. Also, once in cover as the AI walks around the enemies don't even see them. Maybe minor issues for some but it does take you out of the immersion of the game. As for the violence, this is supposed to be a "drama" and you're supposed to "feel" for these characters. Doesn't seem natural to walk around with a 14 year girl and then constantly bash enemies faces into the edge of a table. Maybe if the young girl wasn't around it wouldn't seem so brutal.

fumanstan 06-06-13 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by edstein (Post 11720586)
Watch Polygon's video review if you get a chance. Those AI issues are pretty bad. When you go into cover, the AI many times will take the same cover as you and walk right through you. Also, once in cover as the AI walks around the enemies don't even see them. Maybe minor issues for some but it does take you out of the immersion of the game. As for the violence, this is supposed to be a "drama" and you're supposed to "feel" for these characters. Doesn't seem natural to walk around with a 14 year girl and then constantly bash enemies faces into the edge of a table. Maybe if the young girl wasn't around it wouldn't seem so brutal.

Seems like that's the point, to show the brutality of the world that they're in. If I was getting attacked by zombies (or anyone trying to kill and eat me, I suppose), I wouldn't take it easy on them if there was a kid nearby.

msdmoney 06-06-13 03:56 PM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11720326)
-screwy-

Uncharted was a bit of an improvement over TR but far from perfect. It was more immersive than the recent TR games but the puzzles were a joke, the gunplay was lacking, and the emphasis on shooting galleries really detracted from the experience. The icing on the cake was the supernatural crap that just killed whatever momentum the story had going for it.

Uncharted 2 improved on all those things but still suffered from the same shooting galleries and extreme linearity. I know I'm in the minority, but I think U3 finally improved on all aspects and was the best of the bunch, but I'd still put TR over all three of them.

Anyway, I'm in the dark on tLoU(haven't watched any trailers, checked out reviews or media), so I don't have any expectations thus far.

I agree with pretty much all of this. I really liked the first Uncharted game, but there were quite a few aspects of it where even the older Tomb Raider games were better, mainly the adventure/puzzle portion of the game. Still looking forward to the new Tomb Raider since I haven't played it yet. The Uncharted games always had a much better story, voice acting and presentation than the old Tomb Raider's but a lot of people extrapolate that and place all the elements of Uncharted much higher than warranted.

I think I still liked Uncharted 2 the most, but that may be a time and place type of thing rather than it being better than 3.

nickdawgy 06-06-13 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11720593)
Seems like that's the point, to show the brutality of the world that they're in. If I was getting attacked by zombies (or anyone trying to kill and eat me, I suppose), I wouldn't take it easy on them if there was a kid nearby.

Yeah really.

"Uh honey, can you turn your head a second while Daddy takes care of the flesh eating zombie? That's a girl."

edstein 06-06-13 07:22 PM

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Yeah, I might say that. Especially as a parent I would try to shield by kids as much as possibly from the brutality of the world.

Deftones 06-06-13 07:48 PM

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I love that you are trying to apply real world logic to a video game. rotfl

Decker 06-06-13 08:03 PM

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Hey, you have to buy it with real-world money, right?

edstein 06-06-13 10:40 PM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11720931)
I love that you are trying to apply real world logic to a video game. rotfl

There are still a few people on the internet with a soul and don't believe senseless violence makes a good game. Hard to believe I know, but true.

fumanstan 06-06-13 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by edstein (Post 11720895)
Yeah, I might say that. Especially as a parent I would try to shield by kids as much as possibly from the brutality of the world.

If the world has gone to shit, it doesn't make sense to keep shielding a kid from that reality. Just like the children in The Walking Dead.

Draven 06-06-13 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edstein (Post 11721148)
There are still a few people on the internet with a soul and don't believe senseless violence makes a good game. Hard to believe I know, but true.

Oh c'mon. The setting begets violence. There are plenty of games with different settings that don't use violence. It's like complaining about shooting people in a WWII game.

Michael Corvin 06-06-13 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11721173)
It's like complaining about shooting people in a WWII game.

Damnit, where's my M*A*S*H sim?

Supermallet 06-06-13 11:49 PM

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MASH was in Korea. -ohbfrank-

chess 06-07-13 09:23 AM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 
I was actually pretty skeptical of this game given that it looked like a "stealth" version of Uncharted with zombies, but it looks like Naughty Dog knocked it out of the park.

They really are a hell of a studio.

Groucho 06-07-13 09:29 AM

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It seems some have already made up their mind not to buy this game, and are cherry picking reviews to confirm their bias.

RichC2 06-07-13 09:45 AM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 

Originally Posted by msdmoney (Post 11720630)
I agree with pretty much all of this. I really liked the first Uncharted game, but there were quite a few aspects of it where even the older Tomb Raider games were better, mainly the adventure/puzzle portion of the game. Still looking forward to the new Tomb Raider since I haven't played it yet. The Uncharted games always had a much better story, voice acting and presentation than the old Tomb Raider's but a lot of people extrapolate that and place all the elements of Uncharted much higher than warranted.

I think I still liked Uncharted 2 the most, but that may be a time and place type of thing rather than it being better than 3.

I put TR above Uncharted, but below Uncharted 2. UC2 had great plotting, strong characters, great locales and an okay storyline. The Gameplay in TR blew it away, but it was a very memorable, enjoyable experience. I did find myself struggling to finish UC2 though, near the end it became a repetitive shooter, unfortunately TR also hit those pitfalls from time to time but at least the shooting was fun in that one.


Otherwise that's my main concern with Last of Us, the gameplay in Uncharted has never been its strong suit.

Michael Corvin 06-07-13 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11721218)
MASH was in Korea. -ohbfrank-

Ya think? :lol: Just tossing out a war game idea where you didn't have to shoot people.

chess 06-07-13 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11721648)
Ya think? :lol: Just tossing out a war game idea where you didn't have to shoot people.

I was going to call him a "war nazi", but I was afraid I'd get corrected.

Anubis2005X 06-07-13 05:00 PM

re: The Last of Us (PS3 and PS4)
 
FWIW, the demo has an option to turn off the gore...

Like most demos, it was okay, but I'm sure the full game will be a lot better. The demo for Uncharted 1 turned me off and I was really glad I gave that game a second chance when it dropped in price.

My big concern for this one is if I'll have any fun playing it or not. I'm not really sure the setting and tone is my thing. It took me almost a year to finish Resident Evil 4, despite that being an amazing game, haha...

slop101 06-09-13 06:08 PM

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Finally got around to playing the demo. It seemed alright and had good potential. I'm not sure if I'd call it "fun".

I did not care for the zombie designs at all, what with their faces crusted over with mushrooms, or whatever the hell that is. Just a poor/lazy design choice that does not look good or interesting. What's wrong with the standard decaying zombie face anyways? Don't mess with perfection.

MoviePage 06-09-13 06:14 PM

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They aren't zombies. The design choice fits with the story of what happened to them.


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