This is the reason that the Gamecube controller is still my favorite. It works so well to have the base of my thumb on the A button and roll it to the A, X or Y.

With the downloadable games tied to a system and not owner, what is the most logical way for Nintendo to allow the owners to redownload those games to the Wii2?

The most logical way is to not allow it, forcing the user to rebuy them.

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I was wondering about that too. You can save and launch your WiiWare and VC games off a SD card, so theoretically they could implement some way to copy/move them to the new console. I know my club.nintendo account has a record of all the stuff I've bought off the Wii Shop, so they could maybe figure something out through there too (though I wouldn't hold me breathe).

I am not expecting anything, but if they do decide on doing something, I think the SD card/Nintendo Club are probably the only ways that make any sense.

This will be the first Nintendo console I won't be buying. I couldn't tell you the last time i've played the Wii. Plus, i'm sure they will be rehashing all of their older titles by putting an HD in the title.

I remember reading about some hacker/modder emulated the wii in hd. All it really did was upconvert the existing games to 720p. I'm assuming the new wii hd if if has backwards compatibility will do the same thing...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation#Origins

I have to agree. I was one of Nintendo's biggest fans at one time, but they burned me so bad on the Wii that I may never buy another console from them. The Wii is the single worst console I have ever owned and I own a 3DO.

Then you don't have your expectations in check when it comes to Nintendo.

Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Paper Mario, Mario Kart Wii, The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Kirby's Epic Yarn, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl were all great games. The Wii Sports and Wii Play were enjoyable enough as well; and I liked Mad World also.

My point is that when it comes to Nintendo, if they deliver quality games with Mario, Link, Samus, Donkey Kong, and Kirby, I'm perfectly happy. I'm interested as to how "they burned you so bad on the Wii."

They forced him to buy it, then delivered high quality first party titles. Those bastards!

The Wii is 99% garbage with a few great titles sprinkled in and almost all of it 1st party. There was little quality 3rd party software I enjoyed playing.

I did pick up and enjoy 8-10 Wii games in the entire time I owned it. Kirby was great last year and I enjoyed quirky stuff like Endless Ocean 2, but overall there just weren't many games that made it worth owning for me. I'm not saying it didn't have any good games, but when you compare it to the number of games I enjoyed on the 360 it made owning a Wii pretty pointless. I tried my best to support WiiWare and Virtual Console, but Nintendo has done everything possible to make those two services worthless as well.

So the console wasn't a complete dud, but playing it for a 2 week stretch every 4-5 months when something good finally came out wasn't enough for me. Also, motion controls flat out suck. I would say the vast majority of games I played with motion controls were a worse experience for it. When the fundamental mechanic your console is built on is a failure, that pretty much sums up your console. There is a reason even Nintendo went back to making most of their games with the Wiimote sideways as a NES pad. They figured out that their control scheme didn't work for most games.

And no Nintendo didn't force me to buy it. I bought into the hype when it came out based on the expectations and my love of Nintendo. It didn't pan out for me and that is fine, but it will definitely make me very cautious about buying into their next console.

My sentiments exactly. I hope this next console is something I can fall in love with. If I can bring forward my VC titles, I'd be in heaven. DQX compatibility too? Yes, PLEASE!

I don't disagree with darkside's summation of the Wii, but I don't see how that equates to "Nintendo burned me." Nintendo said from day one that they were going after the casual gaming market.

I wonder if the controller could be like the HTC Evo Shift where the keyboard slides out? You could use the touchscreen or buttons to play the game.

For example, in Madden 13/14, you would use the touchscreen to choose your play, slide out the keyboard and use the buttons to run the play.

I am a HUGE Nintendo fan and I find myself playing the 360 over the Wii on an order of about 20:1. That said, I never paid attention to the crap released for a system (by that measure, the PS2 isn't very good as it had a high % of shovelware). My general measure of if a system is good is if at the end of its life there were 20-30 games that were well worth owning and playing. The Wii easily meets this standard for me. It also has a number of pluses over the 360 in my book (built in Wi-Fi, <50% failure rate, small form factor). Personally, I think the 360 and PS3 are just so much better than the prior generation w/ online integration, DLC, large hard drives and sheer number of great games that the Wii is overshadowed by them. On its own merits, the Wii is a good upgrade from the Gamecube.

At this point, before you buy a Nintendo console I think you have to ask yourself if you would be satisfied if you could only buy games from Nintendo to play on it. Any third-party titles would be bonuses.

Yup. I would think that Metroid Prime 4 would be enough for me, but only if the money I spent on VC carries forward. I don't want to leave those games behind and I won't have the Wii hooked up just for them if I have this new console.

Agree with you there. LOVE my PS3 (and my backlog is ridiculous)...

I am currious as to how each company will handle this. I have almost 100 GB of XBLA, indie games and DLC on the 360 and would be disapointed if none of it was going to work on their new console.

At this point, it would be a complete shock to me if everything didn't carry over.