Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11384383)

I think you might be slightly overestimating the appeal of Bayonetta...

Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11384383)

I think you might be slightly overestimating the appeal of Bayonetta...

Originally Posted by Brent L (Post 11384356)

I think that what Nintendo did with the Wii, and continuing with the Wii U pretty much locked them into being able to continue to produce hardware for many years to come. I think things were obviously starting to decline into the life of the N64, and that continued with the Game Cube. I think Nintendo realized that, and went in the direction of the Wii to try to pull in more of an audience, and it worked. With the number of people who are only recently getting on board with Nintendo who never played games before (or hadn't since the NES or SNES) mixed with the hardcore Nintendo fans like myself who will always stick with them, also mixed in with how Nintendo does indeed seem to focus more on the younger crowd than the other major players, I think they have it locked in to be a major player in the hardware development for quite some time.

Even the other big two realize that with the Move and Kinect. Heck, there have even been pictures out there, which could be photoshops or something else that show a 360 type controller with a large screen in the middle of it now. While the hardware from Nintendo seems to be at least a generation, maybe a half generation behind these days, they lead the industry in other ways to this day. Pulling in new fans is what Nintendo has been known for for a while, and that is why they'll be around for quite some time in the hardware capacity than anything else.

It's also quite telling that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive. That should also keep a good portion of the hardcore gamers in general on board, or even bring some in that gave up on Nintendo already.

I think the entire industry is afraid of an incoming crash once again, and they are all trying to keep that from happening by trying to bring in even more consumers to the industry.

Originally Posted by Nausicaa (Post 11384431)

Fair points. Maybe it's just the crowd I hang with, but the Wii seems to have turned into almost a cultural joke. The system that everyone bought but basically never played once they got bored with the Tennis and Bowling. I don't think the Wii U will capture the same volume of casual gamers as the original, and I think the Wii turned off the core audience as well.

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 11384407)

Nintendo associating themselves with a game like that indicates that the Wii U won't (completely) be business as usual, and I think that's a significant message.

Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11384464)

One game isn't going to do that. The Wii had a handful of rated M games also: House of the Dead, Silent Hill, Mad World, Resident Evil, Dead Rising, etc. It is going to take a lot more than one game to bring in people who are specifically looking for games like that.

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11384514)

Dead Rising was on the Wii? I had no idea.

Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11384464)

One game isn't going to do that.

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11384629)

Didn't a lot of those mature wii games tank too? Mad World was on clearance very quickly, and I remember the developer complaining about the sales of No More Heroes.

Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11384464)

One game isn't going to do that. The Wii had a handful of rated M games also: House of the Dead, Silent Hill, Mad World, Resident Evil, Dead Rising, etc. It is going to take a lot more than one game to bring in people who are specifically looking for games like that.

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11384718)

Not to mention that same argument dates back to the GameCube with the Resident Evil remake and Eternal Darkness. Courting the core requires more than having a half dozen M rated games on the system. People can joke but where the industry is right now it all starts with storage. As usual Nintendo is half ass-ing it with a paltry amount of storage. Between DLC, map packs, arcade games, and full digital titles a paltry hard drive is a big conn. Sure they can boast having CoD: Black Ops 2, but where is one to store multiple GB map packs for multiple games for years to come?

Originally Posted by Brent L (Post 11384457)

I just preordered in store at GameStop and I was #10 at this store. They said only 30% of their allotment was available at open today, and it will be cut off before close tonight.

Originally Posted by SoonerDoc (Post 11384802)

This place is kinda scummy. Just called and was told the EXACT same thing. talking to CSR on the phone asking about Wii U. She says hold on and comes back and says "My manager just told me that when we opened this morning we only had 30% of our allotment left. If you don't preorder before the end of the day, you won't get one on release day."

Gee, I wonder if every store in the country was down to 30% at opening this AM. Or maybe corporate just told them to tell every customer the same thing...-rolleyes-

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11383492)

By then Bayonetta 2 will be clearanced out too... :)

I feel for game developers, but at this point I don't see any reason to get single player games like this at launch, since they all drop like a rock in price within a few months. Though if I get a Wii U (and I'm weak to new consoles, so if I can get one I probably will), I'll probably get it just to play something...

It's published by Nintendo, so does that mean that it's not just a timed exclusive (like RE4 was)?

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11385071)

that would be correct, yes. SEGA didn't want to do B2. Nintendo jumped in and took over on that..so yeah.


Uhm...I'm not seeing if this is in HD or not? Will Nintendo finally go HD?

Originally Posted by Noonan (Post 11384390)

I don't see anyone buying a console for the sake of being able to play Bayonetta 2. The first game was average at best.