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Sheff 10-29-11 05:51 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by Nausicaa (Post 10979275)
PM me your deets and I will add you once I'm all set up. Or add me, Nausicaa11.

Late reply, but I just added you.

covenant 10-29-11 10:52 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 10984070)
The SAW was my go-to gun in BFBC2...love it.

I'm really going to be torn between playing the support class with the guns I love and the assault class, which is sort of the new medic.

I played medic 100% of the time in BF2. I keep meaning to try the assault class, but I just keep spawning support instead. lol

cruzness 10-29-11 12:30 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by aktick (Post 10982271)
So I take it there's a trick to knifing people? One guy I hit probably 5 times and nothing happened, yet guys will come up behind me and instantly kill me.

Think about what you just typed in - The trick is in your quote.

cruzness 10-29-11 12:36 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 10984070)
The SAW was my go-to gun in BFBC2...love it.

I'm really going to be torn between playing the support class with the guns I love and the assault class, which is sort of the new medic.

I gotta admit the assault class is the way to go - the guns are nicely balanced and sqad heals rack up the points. I hated the medic in BFBC2 - shit guns that didn't really match his role in the squad. But the assault class know feels better - I really think DICE has made big improvements in the gunplay I don't hate the heavy weapons anymore.

chess 10-29-11 02:23 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by cruzness (Post 10984419)
I gotta admit the assault class is the way to go - the guns are nicely balanced and sqad heals rack up the points.

Yeah...kind of figured I'd adapt to the new guns.


I hated the medic in BFBC2 - shit guns...
For some reason, if you put a red dot on the medic LMGs they seemed to stabilize quite a bit. I could practically snipe motherfuckers with the M249 or M60 and red dot...and the MG3 was fun on smaller maps...pray and spray!

aktick 10-29-11 02:29 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by cruzness (Post 10984413)
Think about what you just typed in - The trick is in your quote.

:lol: Yeah, I figured it out last night. So it seems you can't kill somebody from the front no matter how many times you swipe at them?

shumway 10-29-11 05:23 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by aktick (Post 10984530)
:lol: Yeah, I figured it out last night. So it seems you can't kill somebody from the front no matter how many times you swipe at them?

You can, but they already have to be injured and you don't get tags.

K&AJones 10-31-11 05:27 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I'm getting ready to finally put my game in and give it a go. Not sure what to epect but a friend at work who picked it up last Wednesday told me he finished the SP campaign Sunday. He was disappointed in the length but said it was hard in a few places. He plays all the "Military" games and I asked if it was about the same length as MOH. He said yea but harder. MOH was one of the shortest games i've ever played and if that's true I too will be disapoointed.

RocShemp 10-31-11 06:50 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Speaking of MOH, I've heard great things about the SP story. Is the Battlefield 3 SP story comparable? For reference, thuis far, my favourite SP campaign story for an FPS game is that of Bad Company 2. Not the most realistic but it was rather well developed.

TheBigDave 10-31-11 07:24 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10987001)
Speaking of MOH, I've heard great things about the SP story. Is the Battlefield 3 SP story comparable? For reference, thuis far, my favourite SP campaign story for an FPS game is that of Bad Company 2. Not the most realistic but it was rather well developed.

Was there a storyline in MOH? If there was, I don't remember it. My biggest gripe was the numerous glitches that required reloading the entire chapter. I wonder if they ever fixed that?

The BF3 story is a convoluted mess. It's very similar to Black Ops. A guy is being interrogated and keeps flashing back to previous missions that involve various people. It's hard to connect to any characters because you're frequently switching from one person to the next and between different locations/timelines.

I really enjoyed Bad Company 1 & 2. But I think that was mostly because I liked the characters so much. Unlike MOH, COD: BO and BF3, the two Bad Company games were a straight-forward storyline with the same core group of characters. So it was easy to get attached to those guys. I'd love to play another round with Preston, Hags, Sweets and Sarge.

DVDChris 10-31-11 09:00 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
If you're playing a Battlefield game for the single player, then you're getting it for the wrong reason. The Franchise has always been about great multiplayer.

Tarantino 10-31-11 11:56 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
The multiplayer on here is great.

RocShemp 11-01-11 07:28 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10987041)
Was there a storyline in MOH? If there was, I don't remember it. My biggest gripe was the numerous glitches that required reloading the entire chapter. I wonder if they ever fixed that?

The BF3 story is a convoluted mess. It's very similar to Black Ops. A guy is being interrogated and keeps flashing back to previous missions that involve various people. It's hard to connect to any characters because you're frequently switching from one person to the next and between different locations/timelines.

I really enjoyed Bad Company 1 & 2. But I think that was mostly because I liked the characters so much. Unlike MOH, COD: BO and BF3, the two Bad Company games were a straight-forward storyline with the same core group of characters. So it was easy to get attached to those guys. I'd love to play another round with Preston, Hags, Sweets and Sarge.

Thanks for that. I had heard a lot of great things about the MOH story but if it's as unmemorable as you say... Pass. Shame since I was tempted at it's current price of $20.

So then the BF3 and Black Ops single player campaigns are like the BLACK single player campaign? Well that's wholly uninteresting. I don't mind switching characters but the interrogation narrative was a horrible way to string the story together in BLACK.

Yeah, the core group in BC and BC2 were great. I just wish they'd given Preston more personality. His backstory in the game manual (and what's briefly hinted in the first BC) makes him seem like Alex Moran from Blue Mountain State. If there's a BC3, I hope they allow him to be a little wilder and better fit for the team. Well, that and I'd like to know what happened with the gold between the events of BC and BC2.

cruzness 11-01-11 08:12 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by DVDChris (Post 10987158)
If you're playing a Battlefield game for the single player, then you're getting it for the wrong reason. The Franchise has always been about great multiplayer.

Agreed. If you got this for the single player game - you're doing it wrong.

RocShemp 11-01-11 08:38 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I forgot to ask, TheBigDave, how's the Modern Warfare narrative? I ask because the latest ad I saw for MW3 made a big deal about the storyline.

boogieman03 11-01-11 08:39 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Thanks for that. I had heard a lot of great things about the MOH story but if it's as unmemorable as you say... Pass. Shame since I was tempted at it's current price of $20.
I bought and played the game a little over a month ago for 10 bucks. I enjoyed the gameplay. Thought it was real fun. The story isn't amazing, but I thought it was good.

RocShemp 11-01-11 09:38 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
If true, this is fucked up.

jdpatri 11-01-11 10:30 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Silly PC Gamerz.

foxdvd 11-01-11 10:34 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 10986903)
He was disappointed in the length but said it was hard in a few places.


uh

RocShemp 11-01-11 11:07 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 10986903)
He was disappointed in the length but said it was hard in a few places.


Originally Posted by foxdvd (Post 10987702)
uh

K&AJones' friend is mgbfan?


Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10987633)

It seems it is true. That's a bit too much tracking for my tastes.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4107/origineula.png

RocShemp 11-01-11 01:12 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10987765)
It seems it is true. That's a bit too much tracking for my tastes.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4107/origineula.png

I see that pic I posted is BS. Here's EULA directly from EA/Origin themselves:


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TheBigDave 11-01-11 01:29 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10987492)
Thanks for that. I had heard a lot of great things about the MOH story but if it's as unmemorable as you say... Pass. Shame since I was tempted at it's current price of $20.

So then the BF3 and Black Ops single player campaigns are like the BLACK single player campaign? Well that's wholly uninteresting. I don't mind switching characters but the interrogation narrative was a horrible way to string the story together in BLACK.

Despite the flaws with MOH, I still had fun with the game. It's only 5 hours. There were some frustrating glitches (maybe those got patched). And the infinitely spawning enemies drive me nuts. But I ended up playing through twice, which I rarely do. So I'd recommend picking it up for $15-$20. It's not worth $60, but it's a good bargain bin game.

I never played BLACK. So I can't make the comparison. The missions in BF3 and Black Ops are connected by an ongoing interrogation scene. The interrogation is happening in current time, and game missions are the flashbacks to previous events. I thought they pulled it off better in Black Ops, which had more interesting missions and some memorable set-pieces.



Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10987563)
I forgot to ask, TheBigDave, how's the Modern Warfare narrative? I ask because the latest ad I saw for MW3 made a big deal about the storyline.

I know a lot of people didn't like the story in MW2. I didn't have a problem with it. It's hard to discuss the storyline without spoiling some of the twists and turns.

But for me, the MW games have been about cool missions, awesome sets and solid gameplay mechanics. And the storyline has just been something that ties that together.

RocShemp 11-01-11 02:08 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10987994)
Despite the flaws with MOH, I still had fun with the game. It's only 5 hours. There were some frustrating glitches (maybe those got patched). And the infinitely spawning enemies drive me nuts. But I ended up playing through twice, which I rarely do. So I'd recommend picking it up for $15-$20. It's not worth $60, but it's a good bargain bin game.

And now I'm interested in playing it again. :D


Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10987994)
I never played BLACK. So I can't make the comparison. The missions in BF3 and Black Ops are connected by an ongoing interrogation scene. The interrogation is happening in current time, and game missions are the flashbacks to previous events. I thought they pulled it off better in Black Ops, which had more interesting missions and some memorable set-pieces.

BLACK had a present day interrogation (with truly horrid acting from the lead, who was dubbed in post) in service of a barely there story and missions that were barely strung together. It was rather incoherent.

And that's not counting the piss poor gameplay (long levels with maybe one checkpoint towards the end and enemies that seemed to be impervious to bullets).


Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10987994)
I know a lot of people didn't like the story in MW2. I didn't have a problem with it. It's hard to discuss the storyline without spoiling some of the twists and turns.

But for me, the MW games have been about cool missions, awesome sets and solid gameplay mechanics. And the storyline has just been something that ties that together.

Well I wasn't looking for spoilers or even a plot summary. Just wanted to know if it was an engaging narrative that warrants being spread across three games.

TheBigDave 11-01-11 02:39 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10988052)
Well I wasn't looking for spoilers or even a plot summary. Just wanted to know if it was an engaging narrative that warrants being spread across three games.

I think the MW trilogy is kinda like Star Wars. The first one could stand on it's own as a complete storyline. The second one began stuff that will (probably) be finished in the third.

RocShemp 11-02-11 09:57 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 10988093)
I think the MW trilogy is kinda like Star Wars. The first one could stand on it's own as a complete storyline. The second one began stuff that will (probably) be finished in the third.

Well that's cool, I guess. I'm gonna see if I snag a cheap copy of the first game and see how I like it.

dvdsteve2000 11-02-11 04:34 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I absolutely LOVED the campaign in MW1 & MW2, WaW was OK (but rediculous with grenades), and I hated Ops.

UncleGramps 11-02-11 04:42 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
So, yeah...BATTLEFIELD 3. It's awesome.

I hit level 9 yesterday. Some people are up in the 30s already. Sheesh.

jdpatri 11-02-11 09:56 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I was getting butchered by a Level 42 guy this afternoon.

MrX 11-03-11 12:27 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I finally had time to play it tonight and was getting slaughtered by a some lvl 27 camping near the spawn spot. I did have the satisfaction of finding him right before the end and getting the most satisfying knife kill I've ever gotten:lol:

RocShemp 11-03-11 06:56 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000 (Post 10989533)
I absolutely LOVED the campaign in MW1 & MW2, WaW was OK (but rediculous with grenades), and I hated Ops.

I'll try to get MW1 on Steam and wait for a sale on MW2. Forgot about WaW. I played and enjoyed the demo. It was cool to have Jack Bauer as my commanding officer.

DVDChris 11-03-11 10:38 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Last night I was playing Rush and it was the map where you are at the loading docks (can't remember the name). This group on the other team flew a helicopter above the big huge warehouse type thing and landed on top to where no one can get them. They just kept sniping people from that spot and it was infuriating. What happened to the Recon class being able to use the binoculars to call in an air strike? There was nothing we could do against them.

story 11-03-11 11:12 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
That's a bummer. Were they defending or attacking? I wonder if using the M224 Mortar would do the trick. It launches on a parabolic arc, a sort of up-and-over sort of explosive, and is unlockable for the Support class after 40,000 points using that class.

There was no other perch on the same plane or higher to snipe back? Yikes!

I simply haven't seen the destructability in BF3 that was rampant in BFBC2, particularly in terms of bringing down buildings. Would be nice if you could've rocketed this one down. I know in BFBC2 there were warehouses that were impossible to bring down, even if one could blow its walls. Have to wonder, though, if there weren't ladders to the roof; the warehouses I've swept through so far have.

DVDChris 11-03-11 11:23 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I was trying to snipe back, but once one of them spotted me, all 4 would aim for me. None of my teammates seemed interested in taking them out either.

story 11-03-11 11:34 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
That's probably the key. If the team isn't going to work as a team in a team-based game...

Another option that would probably take some high skill level is the MAV (like the UAV). Unlockable for Recon at 45,000 points with that kit, it says you can roadkill with it, put C4 on it to blow it up on the enemies, and right now it can lift up soldiers even though that will probably be patched.

murray731 11-04-11 08:28 AM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Free dog tags:

http://actofvalor.com/bf3/

mmconhea 11-04-11 06:09 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
I'm on X360 and i'm pretty good at team work and pwning noobs. Lyle Lanley is the name.
Add me if you need a squadmate.

Sheff 11-05-11 12:40 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Are most people playing on console or PC? I'm still having having a hell of a time not dying every minute.

DarthVong 11-05-11 01:53 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
Just got BF3. Time to get back on the battlefield after a long hiatus. Can't wait to stab some of you fuckers. LOL

Nausicaa 11-05-11 02:26 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 
you just have to get in the habit of moving slowly. You can't run around as freely as in BC2. Especially in the 64 players matches. Someone is always watching. This game really rewards careful, slow, group movement.

Sheff 11-05-11 05:16 PM

Re: Battlefield 3
 

Originally Posted by Nausicaa (Post 10993395)
you just have to get in the habit of moving slowly. You can't run around as freely as in BC2. Especially in the 64 players matches. Someone is always watching. This game really rewards careful, slow, group movement.

Even when I do that, someone just sneaks behind me and shoots me down. From a tank, the air, or on foot. I'm totally doing this wrong. :)


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