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We've been over this time and time again. There's no analogous infrastructure on the PS3 or the Wii like XNA and Indie Games on the Xbox.

There's no user-submission process on the PS3. There's no peer review process. There's no way to channel that kind of content, in those quantities, to the PS3.

If there was a way to streamline convert, en masse, every file approved for release on the Xbox to the PS3 and Wii marketplaces, there's no doubt Harmonix, the artists, the labels, and the content creators would do it. Everyone knows it's win-win for them and the fans.

So either it's a technical limitation on the other systems, which is the official line, or it's Microsoft cock-blocking. Either way that's not really Harmonix's decision and they're doing 5/week already so we know it's not a hard-lined M$ rule.

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Isn't the real limitation the infrastructure to divert payments to user-created content? There are several ps3 games that allow users to create content and for other users to rate it.

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How much money do you really think is there for Sony? Every $2 song is split 3 or 4 ways, in my understanding. Sony would be one of those pieces.

So now you have to weigh the cost that Sony (or Nintendo for that matter) would incur to expand whatever storage and network resources they would need to to add and maintain that stuff. How many RBN songs have to sell to break even for them? To make a profit?

Point is Microsoft already HAD that infrastructure because of XNA and this was merely Harmonix making perfect use of it. It's a shame Sony isn't/can't/won't but that's the fact right now.

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I know. I know. I know! This is the reason. I get it. You, yourself have told me at least four times. I know what's been said and what HMX has said. But right now I'm just trying to understand the technical side of things because I'm 0101000111 illiterate. I feel like I'm reliving Trigonometry here. I don't need you to repeat the answer because clearly it doesn't make sense to my MFA-riddled brain.

At its most basic form/structure RBN is just a collection of songs, a database perhaps. A database that doesn't seem entirely unlike the regular DLC storefront from within the RB2 software -- only someone else uploads content. No matter who uploads them or where they come from, the files/songs/database entries live in this database. And the PS3 can't access the database (or a parallel version that speaks to the soul of the PS3?) because the Sony infrastructure lacks a way for the authors to submit their files? How much more content can live in this database than the regular DLC database? Why is volume an issue? If the content comes in through the 360 infrastructure why does that specific point mean that the PS3 can't have access to the same database? Oh forget it. I'll just accept that I don't get it and move on to failing Calculus. It worked for Trig.

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You do realize that XBox save data does not work on the PS3...

Harmonix would have to sit down and covert every song (500+) to be compatible with the PS3. Then they would all have to go through the PSN approval system. The current rate of that is 5 songs a week. Sony would have to hire many more QA people to get the 500+ songs approved and onto the PS Store.

The profit that all parties involved get out of this is much lower than the cost of all that.


...So, how about that RB3 set list.

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Because Microsoft houses them and they're not too friendly with Sony.

It's like this. Microsoft throws a party and all the cool kids are invited. Harmonix, being the coolest of the cool, of course is going to the party. Only problem is that Harmonix, being so fucking awesome, also hangs out with the social rejects like Sony and Kip Drordy. Obviously they aren't invited but they hang around nearby hoping to be noticed and invited. Feeling bad, every hour or so Harmonix sneaks out some beer for his lonely friends to feel like they're part of the hip crowd.

It's like that, only you should hear the shit Harmonix talks inside!

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See... now this is what I want to hear.

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Is it? Is it really?

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Clearly... but it all boils down there not being enough incentive to make the conversion worthwhile. I don't know how difficult the conversion is... nor does anyone really. If someone said, "Man that's rotten shit," I'd be like "Oh, well then... don't bother!"

It sucks, haven't you heard? -rolleyes-

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Yep. I prefer stories.

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The conversion wouldn't be that complicated or else HMX's system is totally back-asswards. At the worst it should be a simple recompile, assuming the DLC contents are even different. That's a pretty big assumption to say the different networks need different versions of the content to work.

The RB engine reads the song info. Anything Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo needs to "wrap around" that data should be a very streamlined process already.

If they're currently "programming" a Jimi Hendrix album three times, they're doing it completely wrong.

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I guess this is kind of what I was struggling with. The return to HMX on these RBN tracks must be so minimal that it's not worth time to convert them. That's why I questioned the legitimacy of their original fingerpointing. I always believed that if they wanted to make these tracks available cross-format they could, quite easily... but if the return's not there to make it worthwhile so be it. Hell... charge me .50 more per track as your conversion rate and open up the selection a bit. And if Sony makes a few more shekels per download they might actually stop being such a little bitch about the five-download thing. But I'm just freeballin' here.

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I'm also assuming, but I'm coming from a pretty technical background in programming.

Look, the bottom line is that in less than 6 months, RBN has over 500 tracks.

By comparison, Harmonx has put out, in just under 3 years, barely (if even) twice that including RB1, RB2, and GD:RB (TB:RB is exempt from this).

That's a lot of fucking content to support if you're a console network in charge of hosting and tracking the purchases.

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Rodrigo & Gabriela has their awesome BUSTER VOODOO on RBN.

Check out the sick charting on this one:

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Christ!

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Never heard of them, but damn that's a kick ass song.... and :jawdrop: at the solo.

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They have another song called Hanuman up in playtesting right now as well.

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Check out their album "11:11". It's pretty jawdroppingly awesome in its own right. And right around 3:40 to 3:55 is where my head would implode. :(

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Sold! $5 on Amazon.

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I can't believe it's still 2 more months till RB3. :(

In good news though "I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES 1N IT !!!1" is available via RBN!! :lol:

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/ga...10869&p=1&of=6

Edit: Guess it went up on Sunday. I totally missed it. And maybe missed the talk about it here. :( Sorry if it's dupe info.

I'm guessing this one won't show up on the PSN? :)

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I wonder where the Killers are? Tori Amos? The piano addition to me would assure them a place in Rock Band 3. Nowhere in sight apparently... Coldplay? Same deal.

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I mentioned it when it came out. No one cared then either :(

Totally agree about Tori Amos, Kerborus. She and Ben Folds (Five) being absent really :hscratch:

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My concern about BFF is the lack of guitar parts. For me I'm all for it, but I worry that will keep stuff like that from showing up. I'd love to get ANYTHING from Death From Above 1979 but it's the same concern I have about it being a two piece thus it's probably not likely to show up. :(

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There are a number of tracks off of Choirgirl Hotel that would be perfect.

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I saw that, but neglected to chime in with my excitement. So here goes: :banana:

Anyone play it yet? After dinner tonight I'll buy it as a birthday present for myself.

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Ohhhh.....a whole dollar for yourself? Go all out! ;)