I'm not even sure I'd buy it at that price point -- I guess it depends on the game they included. I think Kinetic would lay collecting dust next to my Xbox camera, my wireless headphone that works when it feels like it, my Xbox keypad that SUCKS to try and snap on to the controller and my PS3 eye camera or whatever it's called. IMO Microsoft will need a killer game to move that peripheral.

Lower the better, but I can't see how people will be willing to shell out $149.99 just for the peripheral. You're right. I didn't see a killer app during the conference.

I don't think I'm going to buy Kinect initially but remember that it's for casual gamers. So my guess is the first people buying it is going to be married w/kids hardcore gamers. The ones that have at least 2 consoles at home and would like to share one with their kids and/or wife.

Yeah, I'm married and with two girls, the 10 years old is actually a gamer, but I don't want to share any of my two consoles with them.

The 10 years old actually commented about that during dinner. "I saw on tv about this Kinect thing for the Xbox, it looks really cool..."

I didn't say anything.

Ooops, wrong thread.

Also, for those who may be interested in the original old-school retro white arcade... Target is selling them for $130 with a $50 gift card.

So apparently I won 800 MS points through the Spalding contest on my girlfriend's phone. I say apparently because she deleted the message thinking it was spam and now the contest won't let me enter anymore.

Anyone know how to get a deleted text message off an iphone?

I get the same message and I haven't won shit. Their messages are broken.

Pretty good Friday.

Picked up a $130 Arcade bundle from Target for $130 with a $50 gift card.

Then traded in my LAUNCH 360 to gamestop for the $100 credit deal towards a new 360 slim, along with a 64 MB mem card and the bundled games from the Target bundle I bought (along with a filler game) and got a new slim for about $175 out of pocket.

This thing is whisper quiet compared to my launch unit. Slapped my 120 GB from my older unit on the new arcade unit from target and put it downstairs.

So what happens with the harddrive when a new 360 slim inevitably breaks and needs repairs? Are you stuck with going to MS to fix it, or is there a way to transfer the data from a busted 360 slim to a new slim? I'm on my 4th original 360, so this is a pretty major issue for me.

what do you mean? Aren't you supposed to keep the hard drive when you send your Xbox for repair?

on the slim, the harddrive is internal
i doubt they want you pulling that out, without voiding the warranty... (but i havent seen how the harddrive works on it, might have a sled to easily remove).

Yes, with the 360Phat. uberjoe is asking about the slim.

I remember when I sent my original Xbox in for repair (internal hard drive). They assured me my saves would be retained -- nope, they just sent out a refurb unit with a wiped drive.

i keep seeing the ads for espn3 on 360
to me, this would be HUGE, so Im really looking forward to it
I havent seen many actual details though..
anyone know when this is actually launching and will be available to use?

No launch date yet, but logic dictates that if they miss college football kick-off, they've failed miserably.

In one of the earlier videos I saw, they took out the internal hard drive, it was similar to the one in the PS3.
Is the hard drive sealed so you can't remove it?

Like this:

Unfortunately, it looks like they are still stuck with getting your ISPs approval, so as cool as I think this will be, I won't be able to use it.

As long as you can remove that drive without voiding the warranty, I'm cool.

From the video that seems to be case. Maybe one of the early adopters can comment about that.

Of course you can. They'll need you to when the 400gb drives come out in March.

Same here

You can go to espn3.com and see if you'll be able to access it. If you can play the streams you're good to go, if not you'll be out of luck.

Really? That's a HUGE distinction that they forgot to mention in their press conferences. Thankfully, I do get that service through my ISP, though.

Have you thought about another ISP? Or is there some reason why you can't/won't?

Ditto. And I can log in to espn3.com with my Cox account when I'm on my corporate VPN which isn't a supported ISP.

I checked the list, and of the 2 available here (and one soon to be available) that have enough speed to be worthwhile, none of them are on it.