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-   -   2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/video-game-talk/566393-2009-game-year-goty-thread.html)

Michael Corvin 12-27-09 07:32 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
What's wrong with NSMB Wii? Retarded Wii motion controls and lack of Classic Controller support aside, it's easily a top 10 game.

Retro Game Challenge was also awesome, nice to see it appear on someone's list. Spot #10 sounds about right with all the competition it has.

xmiyux 12-27-09 08:28 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9910750)

Retro Game Challenge was also awesome, nice to see it appear on someone's list. Spot #10 sounds about right with all the competition it has.
Exactly. RGC was a really good and unique game. I had forgotten it came out this year.

CreatureX 12-27-09 09:29 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
GameSpy.com GOTY:

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

fumanstan 12-27-09 10:50 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
The inclusion of Plants vs. Zombies is :up:

chess 12-28-09 09:08 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Added to OP:

gamespy - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

GameSpy.com GOTY

http://media.gamespy.com/spy/goty_09...ty_overall.jpg

Tracer Bullet 12-28-09 12:28 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
GOTY is Flower.

chess 12-28-09 06:26 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Gametrailers cheesed out this year, giving a "single player GOTY" and a "multiplayer GOTY".

The winners are the obvious titles (Uncharted and MW2), and both were nominated for both. Uncharted did win more awards overall though. :shrug:

Decker 12-28-09 06:46 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet (Post 9911504)
GOTY is Flower.
As much as I love Flower, for me the Game of the Year should, above all, be inarguably a game. I'm still not sure Flower is one. :shrug:

It is a beautiful experience in either case.

Michael Corvin 12-28-09 06:53 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9912056)
Gametrailers cheesed out this year, giving a "single player GOTY" and a "multiplayer GOTY".

The winners are the obvious titles (Uncharted and MW2), and both were nominated for both. Uncharted did win more awards overall though. :shrug:
I have no problem with this. How many people are talking about the single player CoD game? How many are going on and on about the Uncharted MP? They both shine in different areas for different reasons. It might be a cop out, but I'm down with it.

Tracer Bullet 12-28-09 06:59 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9912091)
As much as I love Flower, for me the Game of the Year should, above all, be inarguably a game. I'm still not sure Flower is one. :shrug:
So give me a definition of "game".

mhg83 12-28-09 07:35 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet (Post 9912119)
So give me a definition of "game".
Killin lots of Shit. -wink-

chess 12-28-09 07:52 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9912091)
As much as I love Flower, for me the Game of the Year should, above all, be inarguably a game. I'm still not sure Flower is one. :shrug:
By this logic, Pac-Man is not a game, as they are in essence the same thing.

chess 12-28-09 07:55 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9910750)
What's wrong with NSMB Wii? Retarded Wii motion controls and lack of Classic Controller support aside, it's easily a top 10 game.
I actually played it a bit today...fun co-op. It probably is top-10, but it's not #2.

Retro Game Challenge was also awesome, nice to see it appear on someone's list. Spot #10 sounds about right with all the competition it has.
I'm sure it's a fine game. I just don't get how they could include it at the expense of Uncharted or MW2.

I guess sites do this kind of thing to be controversial and drive up traffic, but my guess is that it only works in the short term, as it makes it hard to take them seriously.

IMO, of course.

Decker 12-28-09 08:30 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9912226)
By this logic, Pac-Man is not a game, as they are in essence the same thing.
Pac-Man has scores, a leaderboard, objects worth a variety of points, an objective, the possibility of losing "lives". Flower has, maybe, an objective (to finish the level).

Look, I don't want to knock Flower -- I really like it. But come on, how could it be Game of the Year material? Yes, it does something different, but it really doesn't do much of anything gameplay-wise. It's sort of like picking a track off a Phillip Glass soundtrack recording as "Song Of The Year".

musick 12-28-09 11:14 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by mhg83 (Post 9912187)
Killin lots of Shit. -wink-
plus in Pac Man you do this ^
and eat a lot

Groucho 12-29-09 07:54 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9912291)
Look, I don't want to knock Flower -- I really like it. But come on, how could it be Game of the Year material?
Tracer has already indicated that his sole criteria is innovation, so by that measure it certainly makes sense.

MoviePage 12-29-09 08:52 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Having finally gotten around to playing Batman: Arkham Asylum (about 2/3 of the way through), I can now safely say that Borderlands is my choice for GOTY.

slop101 12-29-09 10:41 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9910728)
That's just a bizarre list. 2, 4 and 10 in particular are headscratchers for me personally. And regardless of how impressive you thought they were, I can't imagine a top-10 list without MW2 or Uncharted on it.
I finished Uncharted2 and MW2 and I would put New Super Mario ahead of both of those - by far - I know I'll still be playing NSMB years from now while U2 and MW2 will be collecting dust.
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9912230)
I actually played it a bit today...fun co-op.
And I think it's pretty worthless as a co-op game - nigh unplayable with others - at least on the harder levels.

Tracer Bullet 12-29-09 10:48 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9912291)
Pac-Man has scores, a leaderboard, objects worth a variety of points, an objective, the possibility of losing "lives". Flower has, maybe, an objective (to finish the level).
All window dressing.

Look, I don't want to knock Flower -- I really like it. But come on, how could it be Game of the Year material? Yes, it does something different, but it really doesn't do much of anything gameplay-wise. It's sort of like picking a track off a Phillip Glass soundtrack recording as "Song Of The Year".
Actually, I think one of the most wonderful things about Flower is the gameplay. In its control scheme it does something completely new, but more importantly than that, it works.

chess 12-29-09 10:49 AM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 9913074)
I finished Uncharted2 and MW2 and I would put New Super Mario ahead of both of those - by far - I know I'll still be playing NSMB years from now while U2 and MW2 will be collecting dust.
So will I. I'm a complete whore for Nintendo's big 3. My top 10 games of all time would be probably 60% Mario/Metroid/Zelda.

By that measure, Nintendo would win every year for me, as almost everything they make is evergreen. That said, it's to some degree "just another Mario game" with only iterative improvements/innovations.

I'll never play Oblivion (or probably Fallout 3) again either, but they are still better GOTY candidates for their years than say, Mario Kart DS.

porieux 12-29-09 05:43 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by chess (Post 9908869)
Fair enough, but like others, I find it's great but not standout Metacritic score a bit telling. I also find it interesting that among 50+ people who have named a game on here, not one has picked Demon's Souls...nor has a single other publication/website.

I don't begrudge them their pick, and it looks like a cool game...but it is kind of interesting.

I just got Demon's Souls for Xmas and am not that far into it, but I would say that from my experience so far it definitely seems worthy. Probably the most impressive 2009 game I have played from the standpoint of uniqueness and originality, not to mention it's wickedly addictive. Too bad so many people are missing out on it. Wish it had come out for the Xbox 360, more people probably would have given it a chance.

Decker 12-29-09 05:54 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by porieux (Post 9913915)
Too bad so many people are missing out on it. Wish it had come out for the Xbox 360, more people probably would have given it a chance.
Sure, more would have given it a chance, but it didn't sell that well compared to other PS3 games either. Had they actually wanted to move copies of this game, they probably shouldn't have made it so cripplingly difficult. That's what turns me off, and I imagine many others as well. I don't enjoy cake walks and certainly never mind scalable difficulties, even with trophies awarded accordingly. But to have a game that is this hard just so they can brag about being "old-school tough" is stupid. They deserve their underwhelming sales if they choose to make a niche game that's this difficult.

porieux 12-29-09 06:09 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9913935)
Sure, more would have given it a chance, but it didn't sell that well compared to other PS3 games either. Had they actually wanted to move copies of this game, they probably shouldn't have made it so cripplingly difficult. That's what turns me off, and I imagine many others as well. I don't enjoy cake walks and certainly never mind scalable difficulties, even with trophies awarded accordingly. But to have a game that is this hard just so they can brag about being "old-school tough" is stupid. They deserve their underwhelming sales if they choose to make a niche game that's this difficult.
Sigh, sounds to me like you have not played the game and are just repeating what you have read.

It's not cripplingly difficult, it's simply a different kind of gameplay, and people are applying expectations from other games. It takes some aspects from arcade games rather than adventure games, and is extremely refreshing actually. My GF got sucked into the game and played it for like 4 hours and she is far from a hardcore gamer or even into RPG games at all. It's very addictive and rewarding, and fun as hell.

chess 12-29-09 06:16 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
I read somewhere that it was what 3D Castevania should have been...which frankly sounds pretty appealing to me. I'll check it out down the road.

slop101 12-29-09 06:31 PM
Re: 2009 Game of the Year (GOTY) thread
 
Originally Posted by Decker (Post 9913935)
Sure, more would have given it a chance, but it didn't sell that well compared to other PS3 games either. Had they actually wanted to move copies of this game, they probably shouldn't have made it so cripplingly difficult. That's what turns me off, and I imagine many others as well. I don't enjoy cake walks and certainly never mind scalable difficulties, even with trophies awarded accordingly. But to have a game that is this hard just so they can brag about being "old-school tough" is stupid. They deserve their underwhelming sales if they choose to make a niche game that's this difficult.
Deamon's Souls looked good to me and I was interested, but after I heard about it's, frankly unfair level of difficulty, it fell right off my radar.

Originally Posted by porieux (Post 9913952)
Sigh, sounds to me like you have not played the game and are just repeating what you have read.

It's not cripplingly difficult, it's simply a different kind of gameplay, and people are applying expectations from other games.
It's just that you seem to be completely alone in your assessment.


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