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I haven't played vs mode so I can't comment on that. The funny thing is I absolutely love Nazi Zombies in COD:WOW. I like how the tension heightens round after round until your teamates (if they are good) are all hunkered down in a corner mowing down wave after wave. There is a lot of strategy involved even on the original map such as when to use the mystery box or go upstairs.

With L4D, it was just point, shoot over and over. Got boring for me.

Lol, talking about video games in a gaming forum is trolling? I'm not trying to stir up anything. I am legitimately curious why the game received such acollades.

How can you compare Nazi Zombies with L4D? If anything Nazi Zombies is more like Horde mode in Gears. Aren't all FPS games basically point and shoot over and over again? You do the exact same thing in Nazi Zombies.

If you don't think L4D requires any strategy, you need to play it again at a higher difficulty setting.

Maybe you're playing on too easy a difficulty level. When I'm playing on co-op, we definitely have to throw together strategies as to who's going to alert the hordes, where we're going to stash all the gas cans and propane tanks to make a stand, who's going to watch which entrances, when we're going to use molotovs and pipe bombs, how we're going to tackle a witch that's blocking our path and so on and so forth. The way you describe your experience, it sounds like you're just running through on easy and mowing down everything, which I'll agree can be a little boring.

I played it a few times and just didn't get it. If I'm going to spend $60 on an FPS, it needs to have some serious content and L4D just didn't do it for me.

(Mind you, I'm not that big of an FPS fan and the last three FPSs I bought were Halo 3, COD4, and MW2).

Yup. If you don't think there's strategy, you just haven't played it enough. And I'll reiterate that this is primarily a multiplayer game. I don't find playing by myself to be enjoyable at all, and I don't think I have since the demo came out. The interaction with your teammates is what this game is all about, especially if you're friends with the other players.

And if you're a fan of Nazi Zombie WatW, survival mode in L4D sounds like it's basically the same thing, only a lot more intense, I imagine. The lighthouse map is awesome, with multiple tanks attacking at once, and smokers grabbing your team from all directions. Very intense.

No kidding. You're bound to be in a hospital bed for quite some time if you try that.

I agree it was never meant to be a single player game, you really have to play coop to get something out of it.

You aren't meant to "watch" the story, the story of the game is the story of you playing. IMO it's a much more effective means of telling a story than cutscenes or some prewritten script. It sounds like you didn't get to experience L4D. It's much more of a water cooler game, where the players discuss and retell the story of their experience afterward. I think the AI director does a good job of setting up a game that feels emergent and unscripted, in contrast to most linear shooters that are just a shooting gallery with spliced in movies.

That sounds very different from my multiplayer experience. If all we did was run and shoot we were dead. You have to work together, plan strategies, etc.

With a traditional shooter in co-op mode, you'll have an experienced guy (or perhaps YOU are that experienced guy) who will know the map and say things like "Hunter around the corner here" or "Ammo stash is behind that door". With L4D, nobody knows this because it's different every time.

Playing online the first couple of weeks was funny because you'd have "know it alls" trying to predict what was coming, and then be shocked when they were wrong.

Yes please if you are gonna play this game online put on a freaking mic. There's nothing worse than playing this game where like groucho said teamwork and communication is a must and having mute assholes as teammates. The whole purpose of playing online with ppl is to communicate and have fun why a lot of ppl don't have a mic is just stupid.

L4D is about as fun as it gets for video games as far as i'm concerned.

Not being available for the PS3.

Guy plays on easy, bitches about game being easy. Nothing to see here.

I am picking up Modern Warfare 2 today despite not liking realistic war shooters. Be prepared for my "So What's so Great About Modern Warfare 2?" thread.

^ Modern Warfare 2? Realistic?

Awesome game though it is, it's a total arcade shooter. There isn't an ounce of realism in it.

Left 4 Dead is a good game, but it's best played online with 3 or more friends of yours. Voice chat + strategy is a must. Lets just say, there's a very good reason why both L4D and L4D2 on PC get sold in 4 packs.

In regards to the setting and weapons it is though, correct? They didn't suddenly add a Gravity Gun, Ray Gun or Needler did they? Still takes place in a country on Earth, right?

When people say "realistic" I think more akin to simulators.

But yeah, it takes place on earth with an occasional post-apocalyptic vibe and no crazy weapons (though the co-op mode where you bomb the hell out of enemies from a bomber while your teammate tries to run to the target is borderline crazy). In terms of actual "realism" though, it's about on par with Halo.

Haha this thread is hilarious. People are getting crazy defensive because someone asked an honest and poignant question about a game. I actually was thinking the same thing as I had never played it before and have noticed the rising popularity of the game.

It was a question of curiosity, it's not like he asked why "fucking morons love this shitty game".

I have a feeling the reaction by some here is more of a sum of various parts, not just this one thread.

Ahh ok, I guess I don't read enough threads to know his rep around here, I'll back away

Yeah, he should have posted in the original thread so someone could accuse him of making a threadcrap since he doesn't care for the game.

Ditto. I've been on the fence about this game for a long time and now I'm 100% certain I won't be picking it up based on the feedback to the OP in this thread. With a weak single player and voice chat a "must" (I'm hearing impaired so voice is useless to me) then I'll pass.

I love the game. However single player is very weak. It just doesn't feel right. When I first purchased the game I jumped into single player, and after playing for 20 minutes or so I was sure I had wasted 60 bucks.

However the minute I jumped into online coop with people, it was a completely different experience. It's a very social game, and while yes Live has a lot of dicks, this game is just tremendously more enjoyable as a coop game. Frankly, that's how the game was sold. From the beginning it was sold as 8 player COOP! Now, technically it's only 4 player coop, but still.

However, I will say I do not like that they don't give you the option in the game to talk to the other team. Sure, it can lead to trashtalk, but leave the option in there. I have set up 8 player party games before, and it's just fun to talk to the other team as you're killing each other. Make it a button press to turn it on and off or something.

You obviously don't know the OPs history in terms of starting new threads.