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Old 08-13-09, 07:43 PM
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July NPD Numbers

From Kotaku.

Here's how the hardware race went down in July, according to the NPD Group.

Nintendo DS - 538,900
Wii - 252,200
Xbox 360 - 202,900
PSP - 122,800
PlayStation 3 - 121,800
PlayStation 2 - 108,000
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Here are July 2009's bestselling games, from the NPD Group.

01. Wii Sports Resort (Wii) - 508,200
02. NCAA Football 10 (Xbox 360) - 376,500
03. NCAA Football 10 (PS3) - 237,400
04. Wii Fit (Wii) - 164,300
05. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) - 156,600
06. Mario Kart DS (DS) - 132,200
07. Pokemon Platinum (DS) - 116,400
08. Fight Night Round 4 (Xbox 360) - 116,400
09. New Super Mario Bros. (DS) - 101,800
10. EA Sports Active (Wii) - 96,800
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Re: July NPD Numbers

So yeah, everyone's going down. Xbox is the one that looks better.

Wonder if there's going to be some time in the near future when the Xbox 360 keeps selling more than the Wii (I know they sold more the month Halo 3 was released).

Starting tomorrow good times for everybody I guess. I already have a few preorders: MW2, Uncharted 2, Batman and I'm planning on ordering AC2:SE pretty soon. I'll get the Halo game and FIFA 10, I may get GH5, Rock Band Beatles, some others. I'm resisting the urge to get Madden, so many sales...
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PSP sold more than PS3? Jesus.
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The top 10 software is all Nintendo (6) and EA (4) titles!
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I am equally shocked by the fact that ps2 is still selling as many units as they are, and that the ps3 is barely selling more than the ps2!
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Originally Posted by dan30oly
I am equally shocked by the fact that ps2 is still selling as many units as they are, and that the ps3 is barely selling more than the ps2!
1- PS2 is $99.00. PS3 is 4 times that.

2- People are holding off for the PS3 Slim/Price drop announcement.
If that happens, get back to me about the NPD numbers after one month. It wouldn't surprise me if said announcement would include phasing out the PS2 and including PS2 BC on the PS3 Slim.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
PSP sold more than PS3? Jesus.
DS sold >2X as Wii...
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DS sold >2X as Wii...
yeah, but the DS gets pretty damn good games and it's cheap. the PSP is still fairly expensive for a portable and it doesn't seem to have many quality games coming out for it. that could be just because i don't follow it as much, but that's my perception.
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I know for awhile the PSP was always outselling the PS3. That may have changed this year, but overall the PSP has sold a lot of units. Games don't seem to sell for it, but lots of people have picked up the hardware.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Originally Posted by I.Flores
1- PS2 is $99.00. PS3 is 4 times that.

2- People are holding off for the PS3 Slim/Price drop announcement.
If that happens, get back to me about the NPD numbers after one month. It wouldn't surprise me if said announcement would include phasing out the PS2 and including PS2 BC on the PS3 Slim.
But what about the rumor that the 360 Elite is dropping to $299 at the end of this month? How will that affect a Sony price drop?
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Originally Posted by darkside
I know for awhile the PSP was always outselling the PS3. That may have changed this year, but overall the PSP has sold a lot of units. Games don't seem to sell for it, but lots of people have picked up the hardware.
Both the DS and the PSP are easy to hack, you don't even need to crack open the case. And the iso's are very easy to get. Obviously not the only reason people are getting these but I'm sure it's a factor. Plus they are a lot cheaper than the consoles.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Originally Posted by I.Flores
1- PS2 is $99.00. PS3 is 4 times that.
What surprises me is that there are that many people out there that:

1. Want a PS2 but somehow don't already own one.
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2. Are purchasing a new unit when there surely has to be a ton of cheap units on the secondhand market.

I mean, I can understand that people still want to play the unit, and that some for whatever reason still didn't have one. But a whopping 100K plus each month are just now adopting a 9-year-old system that has over 100 million units already floating around?
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Originally Posted by DRG
What surprises me is that there are that many people out there that:

1. Want a PS2 but somehow don't already own one.
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2. Are purchasing a new unit when there surely has to be a ton of cheap units on the secondhand market.

I mean, I can understand that people still want to play the unit, and that some for whatever reason still didn't have one. But a whopping 100K plus each month are just now adopting a 9-year-old system that has over 100 million units already floating around?
Well, there are thousands of "casual" gamers who are not into cutting-edge, HD gaming. They just want to play cheap games on a cheap console that looks good. And the PS2 is cheap enough not to bother with second hand units.
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
But what about the rumor that the 360 Elite is dropping to $299 at the end of this month? How will that affect a Sony price drop?
The only rumor about that would be the BestBuy ad, which ended up being just a temporary price reduction. But if it indeed does get a price cut, I don't think it will stop the PS3's momentum. The $299 PS3 would still offer much more than the 360 Elite at the same price (Blu-Ray, WiFi, Rechargeable controllers, free online, Exclusives not available on PC) and the people that wanted to buy a cheap 360 already have the Arcade as an option.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
yeah, but the DS gets pretty damn good games and it's cheap. the PSP is still fairly expensive for a portable and it doesn't seem to have many quality games coming out for it. that could be just because i don't follow it as much, but that's my perception.
Sony PSP 169.99
Nintendo DSi 169.99
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Originally Posted by CreatureX
The top 10 software is all Nintendo (6) and EA (4) titles!
A top 20 would be more interesting so we could see what it looks like without the old Nintendo titles always on the list.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Damn. From last year, the Wii and PS3 are down by roughly 50%. PSP and PS2 are up a little and DS and 360 are about the same. On the game front, the top ten sellers in July 2008 sold about 2.5 million copies. The top ten for last month sold about 2 million. Still, summer numbers are pretty irrelevant to total sales, so a good holiday season could still end up with the industry seeing some growth in 2009.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Are you comparing last July to this July? Hard to do that, since Wii Fit & MGS4 were pretty big system sellers last summer.
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I wish they would give figures that split the DSi from the DS.
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Wii Fit maybe, but MGS4 wasn't even in the top 10 games last July. Either way, comparing current sales to the previous year is the common metric for gauging the health of the industry. You can say that the last three months have been down because last year had x, y and z games, but that doesn't mean the numbers aren't bad. It just helps explain why they're bad.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

What I find fascinating is that Nintendo found a way to actually increase the price of a system (DSi) and still sell more than any other system.
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Originally Posted by Fandango
Sony PSP 169.99
Nintendo DSi 169.99
Even though I didn't know the PSP had dropped to $169.99, still not a completely fair comparison since you can get a DS for cheaper than both those prices. Enough to get a system and a game or two.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

I don't think THAT many people are waiting for the PS3 Slim. I would bet it's release will result in a 1 or 2 month increase, and then fall back to their regular sales figures.
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Re: July NPD Numbers

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
A top 20 would be more interesting so we could see what it looks like without the old Nintendo titles always on the list.
Here you go:

11) Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) Nintendo
12) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 (WII) EA
13) Fight Night Round 4 (PS3) EA
14) UFC 2009: Undisputed (360) THQ
15) Punch-Out!! (WII) Nintendo
16) Transformers: Revenge Autobots (NDS) Activision Blizzard
17) Prototype (360) Activision Blizzard
18) Major League Baseball 2K9 (360) Take 2
19) The Legendary Starfy (NDS) Nintendo
20) NCAA Football 10 (PS2) EA

source:
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=93176
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That is a pretty sad Top 20.


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