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RocShemp 03-30-09 06:59 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 
Again, is Lair worth trying out for $20 or is it too crappy even at that price?

Michael Corvin 03-30-09 07:24 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 
Did you like the Rogue Squadron series? Lair is basically a skin over those games. I enjoyed it well enough but it was a rental. I doubt I would have given it any serious replay time if I had bought it. I'm not sure if that answers your question though.

Ocelot 03-30-09 08:41 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by hail2dking (Post 9355570)
Valkyria Chronicles is part of Gamestop Gamedays sale beginning 4/5...don't know what the price will be, but likely $40 or less (GS "new")

Yeah, i read that from CAG over the weekend as well. It was a surprise to see VC on the up to 50% off list in the PS3 (rest of the titles suck balls). Well, i don't know, i hope it's in the 20-50% off range. Well, if it's 10%, use the 10% off coupon in the GameInformer.

Ocelot 03-30-09 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9355891)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76...oller-300x.jpg

A friend of mine bought this at BB a few weeks ago. He brought it over for me to check out last night.

Thoughts? :up: :up:

This controller is super comfy, it's not as ergonomic as the 360 pad*, but it is leaps and bounds better than the DS layout. The analogs are placed just right, the 'handles' are just a bit 'off.' But again, it's still better than the Dual Shock design. The rubber texture covers the entire shell of the controller, not just the colored grips on the sides.

The face buttons do feel cheap, but I had no problems using them. The new 'triggers' for L2 & R2 are subtle but very effective. They are maybe slightly bigger than the stock DS buttons, but there was no slippage action with these since they have a slight concave shape to them.

The only true negative using this is the lack of motion control. I tried it out with Killzone and had to stop and swap controllers when I got to a motion section(separate topic, but why can't the goofy motion in that game be mapped to a button?). I think he said he got it for $40.

If I played more retail games on the PS3 I would definitely say this is worth it(assuming the game you are playing has zero motion), but personally I can't justify dropping $40-$45 on a third controller.

*if this was a first party design in terms of ergonomics I'd rank it: 360, Wavebird, Shadow Wireless, Xbox S-controller,... then way down the list, Dual Shock.


To each of his/her own i guess... but i agree with what's in bold. They just using the motion thingy to make it more PS3 I guess. Honestly, i don't see the point really. Of all the games with the motion thingy, all of them are superfluous... Uncharted, to use it to balance yourself or fend off the bunker creatures (eh). KZ2, use it to turn the wheel or place a charge bomb (eh). The only two that i can think of which purely use the motion thingy correctly are flOw and flOwer. Okay, maybe in Folklore too (too yank out the souls or something like that, i played the demo only, it sound and feel about right).

I don't have beef with the Xbox controller, but when comes to platformers, action games, it's too bulky for me (the d-pad is so not cool). Great for FPS or Gears type of shooters.

RocShemp 03-30-09 09:12 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9357247)
Did you like the Rogue Squadron series? Lair is basically a skin over those games. I enjoyed it well enough but it was a rental. I doubt I would have given it any serious replay time if I had bought it. I'm not sure if that answers your question though.

Well I liked Rogue Squadron on the N64. Sadly, I can't rent the game cos all the Blockbusters near me closed and the mom and pop rentals I frequent don't have PS3 (or 360 for that matter) games. :(

Ocelot 03-30-09 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mordred (Post 9354103)
Seriously? That would be bad ass. I need to finish this game. Almost done with it, but had to stop due to KZ2 :)

Yeah, that was the reason why i went ahead and grab a copy of VC. Additional contents are always welcome :) But no, no trophy supports, even on the new DLC...

Speaking of KZ2, i don't know, i'm not enjoying it like when i was playing R2 or Gears 2, something is not clicking for me... Maybe it's the weapons? It seems they're all the same. The flamethrower is weird, i can't master it. Grenade launcher too. Shotgun is cool to look at, but don't feel right when comparing to R2 and Gears 2. Take those three away (except for the sniper rifle), all pretty much the same... Oh, i so miss the exploding Magnum from R2. I have to say, the AI is a lot smarter than the other shooters.

Chew 03-30-09 11:03 AM

Savage Moon had a patch update over the last few days: about all I could tell where some differences on the moon selection screen (mainly the award icons). Hopefully, that means they're laying the groundwork for an expansion pack. :)

dsa_shea 03-31-09 07:47 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 
I wonder what the big news supposedly coming out of the Sony camp today is going to be. If it is that they're cutting the PS2 down to 99 dollars = Who cares?

RichC2 03-31-09 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9359556)
I wonder what the big news supposedly coming out of the Sony camp today is going to be. If it is that they're cutting the PS2 down to 99 dollars = Who cares?

I heard rumblings of a PS3 price drop from a mom/pop store owner, but even that I'm not caring a whole lot about.

dsa_shea 03-31-09 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 9359562)
I heard rumblings of a PS3 price drop from a mom/pop store owner, but even that I'm not caring a whole lot about.

Especially considering that many of the people that are aware of this rumbling are already PS3 owners and most likely PS2 owners. A price drop does nothing for those of us who have already invested. I was hoping along the lines of a major firmware update that would finally allow music in all games amongst other improvements.

edstein 03-31-09 08:06 AM

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Netflix?

Bandit03 03-31-09 08:15 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 
Its looking more and more like the "big" announcement is the PS2 price cut. I'm glad I learned long ago not go build up too much excitement in anticipation for these announcements. But still, I was a little curious ;)

dsa_shea 03-31-09 08:21 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by Bandit03 (Post 9359584)
Its looking more and more like the "big" announcement is the PS2 price cut. I'm glad I learned long ago not go build up too much excitement in anticipation for these announcements. But still, I was a little curious ;)

Whoopty freaking doo! I better sell my 60gb systems and run out and buy one. For a company supposedly pushing their new system they still spend a lot of energy on a console that is closing in on being ten years old.

Raul3 03-31-09 08:24 AM

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It's been confirmed (Kotaku, joystiq, PS blog, etc.) PS2 for $99.

dsa_shea 03-31-09 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 9359598)
It's been confirmed (Kotaku, joystiq, PS blog, etc.) PS2 for $99.

This is like focusing on an old girlfriend when you have someone new in front of you. Sony's marketing machine sucks but they sure love to take your repair money.

Bandit03 03-31-09 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9359655)
This is like focusing on an old girlfriend when you have someone new in front of you. Sony's marketing machine sucks but they sure love to take your repair money.

Just wait for the eventual commercial promoting the new price. I can already picture it; a montage of different PS2 games with dramatic close ups of the system all while Springsteen's "Glory Days" plays in the background.

Ocelot 03-31-09 09:32 AM

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I hardly see any PS commercials let along a PS2 one... $99? Don't we all have one already? My Slim White PS2 is still in the box (never got the chance to hook it up), got it like $110 last year. If that's the big news, meh, not interested...

pinata242 03-31-09 09:41 AM

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PS2 needs to be free with PS3 purchase. Or with $100 spent on PS2 games.

Chew 03-31-09 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ocelot (Post 9359718)
Don't we all have one already?

Actually, I completely skipped that generation. I have a PS1 and PS3, yet never got a PS2 for some reason.

Not like I'm going to buy one at this point anyway. :lol:

hail2dking 03-31-09 11:42 AM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9359655)
This is like focusing on an old girlfriend when you have someone new in front of you. Sony's marketing machine sucks but they sure love to take your repair money.

IMO Sony can't afford to cut the price of the PS3, they need to hold out until their production costs go down. Plus, in this economy, a $50 price cut won't be as effective as they need it to be.

The PS2 is pure profit for them. Right now Sony needs to make money and this will only help. A price cut on the PS3 would lose money. (i.e. selling for less than it costs to mfr).

dsa_shea 03-31-09 01:38 PM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by hail2dking (Post 9360021)
IMO Sony can't afford to cut the price of the PS3, they need to hold out until their production costs go down. Plus, in this economy, a $50 price cut won't be as effective as they need it to be.

The PS2 is pure profit for them. Right now Sony needs to make money and this will only help. A price cut on the PS3 would lose money. (i.e. selling for less than it costs to mfr).

However, by still focusing their efforts on the PS2 it shows that they really don't care about the PS3 which is not what they should do. If you're trying to sell people on an expensive piece of equipment they should feel assured that it will be supported to the fullest. Right now it looks like they are milking the PS2 and half assing the PS3.

Walker Boh 03-31-09 01:51 PM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 
Having the PS2 still out there doesn't make me worry about the future of the PS3; if anything, when a company continues to support previous versions it gives me more confidence in the current generation, because it gives the impression that it won't become instantly obsolete the moment they release a new one.

dsa_shea 03-31-09 02:19 PM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by Walker Boh (Post 9360310)
Having the PS2 still out there doesn't make me worry about the future of the PS3; if anything, when a company continues to support previous versions it gives me more confidence in the current generation, because it gives the impression that it won't become instantly obsolete the moment they release a new one.

Or that we're in year three of this new console and it still has a long way to go to catch up with other current generation systems or even where the PS2 was during its first three years. So they say they have a ten year life planned for the PS3 so I guess it is safe to assume that by year 6 or 7 they will decide to go full throttle with their support for it. The life span of my first PS3 was just a month over 2 years and I'm still pissed about it. Thats what I get for supporting Sony on a product just a few months out the gate.

mhg83 03-31-09 02:19 PM

Re: Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 9359556)
I wonder what the big news supposedly coming out of the Sony camp today is going to be. If it is that they're cutting the PS2 down to 99 dollars = Who cares?

I bought my fat ps2 when it first came out. It still works but the disc tray sounds like its about to die on me. I knew a price drop was eventual so now I will buy the $99 slim.

pinata242 03-31-09 02:21 PM

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That's the rub, Walker, it wasn't instantly obsolete when the PS3 was released. Later, however, they intentionally removed backwards compatibility from the current generation. This necessitated the continued existence of the PS2.

They removed it to save manufacturing costs. Not because there was no demand for BC in the PS3. If that were true they wouldn't need the PS2 at all. Removing BC gave me one less reason to recommend the thing to new purchasers. In fact, the reason I bought mine when I did is because they were removing the BC. But, I run in circles where that kind of information is widely known.


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