Originally Posted by REL77 (Post 8975032)

GH Aerosmith was great cause of this... But I read many qoutes that they wanted to make it even more challenging, and some of the videos i have seen look to confirm that honestly... I would not expect it to be easier whats so ever, they are going to continue to overchart, and do it just for diffaculty..

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 8975212)

Looks like Live is down for me.

= J

Originally Posted by thelwig14 (Post 8975113)

Feel free to refer to a video, but it has been confirmed they are going with the Aerosmith/RB charting from now on. Especially on non expert levels.

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 8974903)

http://register.rockband.com/

Looks like you can put in your key now. They're saying the 20 songs will be available in a couple of weeks. I'm guessing right around the time of the PS3 launch.

I'm going to hold off on inputting my code until I hear the songs are out. There have been so many times where I've pre-ordered something really early, and then never got the code for an item. Then people that pre-order the day before release get their code right away. The Disturbed tracks are the most recent example that comes to mind.

Originally Posted by dtcarson (Post 8974628)

Also...What's the point of Performance mode? I'll admit I haven't tried it, but it doesn't seem that useful/interesting to me.

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 8975710)

Performance mode allows you to play the game without seeing any HUD at all. No scores, no charts, etc.. But you're still playing the game and can still fail and get your stats screen at the end of a song. For people that have note charts memorized, this is an awesome way to show that they're awesome.

I don't think I could do it for anything except for vocals, and might give that a shot sometime when I'm bored, and have finished up most/all of the on-disc stuff.

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8975631)

This came out a day or so ago: http://buttonmasher.co.nz/2008/09/30...too-fing-hard/

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8975631)

Button Masher: There is a distinct difference between the way Harmonix did it in the past and the way NeverSoft is doing it now. I’m not saying it’s any worse, it is too hard for me to be honest.

Brian Bright: I agree, we had no idea what we were doing when we made GH3, so we threw together a loose engine and really just put random notes that went along with the rhythm in lots of the songs.

BM: I know a lot of people that just caned GH3, I think it’s harder than GH2 but it’s not too hard obviously for some people. So you’re saying it was too hard?

BB: Yeah, it was too fucking hard. We made a conscious effort of GH Aerosmith and GH4 to kind of ramp the difficulty better. In GH3 you definitely hit a wall near the last tier on hard to expert because of our inexperience and fucking up the note charts. We'd certainly never have said any of this while GH3 was still our prime platform, but now that GHWT is coming out, it's pretty safe to admit these things since it might prevent some players from purchasing our game when they have Rock Band 2 already.

BM: That’s exactly where I hit it.

BB: Yeah, too hard. A lot of that is chalked up to learning. Learning about the consumers and focus testing. In Aerosmith we made it much more linear, we devised a series of rules as to what constitutes a tier 6 hard song and what differentiates it from a tier 7 expert song, we came up with a rule set for this. We probably should have done this for GH3, but we just had to be out before Rock Band, so we just skipped all that testing crap. I mean really, if we had tested GH3 properly, do you really think we'd have left in the boss battles? I hear about 100 players ended up taking their own lives over Lou on Expert. In GH:WT we obviously have that same rule set, but we also have the ability to dial down the difficulty on any song, so if you hit a brick wall, which we don’t think you will, you can turn down the difficulty. We now consider this a "feature", being able to go from "Expert" to "Medium". It's been there all along, but we need sound bite we can get to fight Rock Band 2. I don’t think the guys artificially made things more difficult, we did have a few ScoreHero guys that were new on GH3 that were very good and may have note tracked some of the songs to their skill level. But in GH:WT you will see it is much more smooth, with a more even ramp, and it does get more difficult but hopefully you won’t hit that wall.

Originally Posted by REL77 (Post 8975564)

I really hope your right. i LOVED the GH Aerosmith style charting, was tons of fun.

This is the only real video i have watch alot and seems was hard and over charted, on guitar i am talking about.
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Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 8975710)

Performance mode allows you to play the game without seeing any HUD at all. No scores, no charts, etc.. But you're still playing the game and can still fail and get your stats screen at the end of a song. For people that have note charts memorized, this is an awesome way to show that they're awesome.

Originally Posted by Shagrath (Post 8974903)

http://register.rockband.com/

Looks like you can put in your key now. They're saying the 20 songs will be available in a couple of weeks. I'm guessing right around the time of the PS3 launch.

I'm going to hold off on inputting my code until I hear the songs are out. There have been so many times where I've pre-ordered something really early, and then never got the code for an item. Then people that pre-order the day before release get their code right away. The Disturbed tracks are the most recent example that comes to mind.

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 8976050)

That's an interesting way to play. I haven't memorized that much, but I have challeneged myself by playing Boston's Piece of Mind on expert drums blindfolded. Granted it is a rather simple song, but it was still fun to try and end up with ****.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 8976297)

It's ok to use swears on here.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 8976297)

It's ok to use swears on here.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 8976297)

It's ok to use swears on here.

Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 8976634)

They're Red Hot Expert drums and vocals have already been FC'd + GS'd. Crazy.

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8976667)

You saw this guy FC YYZ on release day last week, right? He's incredible.

Originally Posted by Liver&Onions (Post 8976707)

suck my balls. No one has FCed YYZ on drums. impossible.

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8976718)

And you don't need a silly excuse to ask me to suck your balls.

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8976667)

You saw this guy FC YYZ on release day last week, right? He's incredible.

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 8976667)

You saw this guy FC YYZ on release day last week, right? He's incredible.

Originally Posted by porieux (Post 8977032)

I don't agree that Hot for Teacher is overcharted, it's just really fucking hard.