CreatureX

Not catering to the core game? I think the releases of Zelda TP, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, the announcements of Punch-Out, Sin & Punishment 2, sequels to Galaxy and Zelda, plus the not yet announced Kid Icarus, pretty much prove you wrong.

slop101

Four games in two years? The other consoles have that many "core-game" releases just these past two weeks.
I think you actually proved him right.

CreatureX

Well those were the major ones. Nintendo also released Super Paper Mario, ExciteTruck, Fire Emblem and Battalion Wars. Plus the core fans have always wanted a new console Nintendo 2D game and Nintendo released Wario Land: Shake. But my point was not that Nintendo is releasing a crap load of core games, my point was that Nintendo has released a balance of core/casual games.

Michael Corvin

You're not making a very strong case. Outside of Wario, the most recent title you mention came out a year ago.

Excite Truck - release date: Nov. 06
Super Paper Mario - release date: April 07
Battalion Wars - release date: Oct. 07
Fire Emblem - release date: Nov. 07
Wario Land: Shake It - release date Sept. 08

CreatureX

Smash Bros. and Mario Kart came out earlier this year.

Sonny Corinthos

From Gamepro.com


The release list was auspiciously obtained by Kotaku on Friday, and contains several key games and dates for North American gamers. Notable titles include:

Wii Sports Resort, Nintendo - 2009
Punch Out!!, Nintendo - 1st half 2009
Sin and Punishment 2, Nintendo - 2009
Mario Tennis (GameCube Port), Nintendo - TBA
Pikmin (GameCube port), Nintendo - TBA, Sim Animals, EA - 1/27/09
Tenchu 4, Ubisoft - Early 2009

And there are still a few other Wii games to sooth your gamer self this year, including Quantum of Solace on Nov. 4, Call of Duty: World at War and Star Wars: The Clone Wars on Nov. 11, and Animal Crossing: City Folk with Shaun White Snowboarding on Nov. 16.

darkside

No release date yet for Mad World? That is one I'm looking forward to along with Sin and Punishment 2.

steebo777

Man 2009 is looking fairly weak for the Wii

pinata242

As opposed to...?

I went to Target yesterday and just stared at the Wii games thinking about the B2G1 deal. Nothing even struck me. Closest I got was Mario Kart + de Blob + Wario: Shake It - but even those for $90 (we had a 10% day of shopping) wasn't worth it to me.

Michael Corvin

11 games, and zero interest in any of them. Where's Pikmin 3 & Mad World?

pinata242

Here's your Pikmin 3

Mikael79

No interest in Punch Out!!?? Come on, man!!!

Krayzie

They need to hurry up and make a good basketball game for the Wii. Just give me a crappy looking copy of NBA 2K9!!! I'm tempted to get a PS3 or Xbox 360 just for that game. I'm still playing NBA2k7 on the xbox...

Spiderbite

I recently got a Wii and did not know that Gamecube games are backwards compatible on it. I never had a GC and was wondering if there are any "must have" games for it?

DVDChris

Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Legend of Zelda Wind Waker to name a few.

SunMonkey

I would add Metroid Prime and Time Splitters 2 to the above.

Giantrobo

Isn't that coming to Wii? Or at least a Wii version of the sequel?

Michael Corvin

These two posts fail.

1. Beyond Good & Evil
2. Eternal Darkness
3. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

pinata242

There's a Wii spin-off. Not the original and not the direct sequel. I'm not sure if it's a prequel or it follows the "son of Overlord" or what.

But the series is coming to Wii, yes. DS as well.

Giantrobo

yeah yeah ok that sounds about right.

Kelkee

Ok so seriously now, knowing what you know about the Wii, and its capabilities to this point, exactly what kind of games do you want in order to make it worth firing up more than you do now?

What type of gaming experience would keep you playing it more often?

Or has the HD generation of games now completely surpassed any hope for the Wii as a core gaming console?

pinata242

HD isn't what keeps me away from the Wii (as I'm also not playing on my PS3).

It's about fun and connectivity and achievements for me.

The games I'm currently playing could be played on the Wii (Rock Band, GH), but the connectivity/community isn't there. The extensibility isn't there via DLC. The fun is more on the 360 for my needs on those games.

I tried to stick by the Wii through the big titles. Mario Party 8, Mario Strikers, SSBB really didn't do anything for me knowing how they could have been done with a proper online community. I skipped Mario Kart for the same reason and have no plans of buying another Wii title unless it's Metroid, Zelda, or Kid Icarus - where I know it's a single player experience anyway.

Dragon Quest: Swords didn't do it for me (even though it's easily my favorite series of all time) and I had been waiting for that since before launch.

Wii2 needs fun games, but it needs fun games that I can extend and play online easily. I want an XBL-clone for WiiConnect. I want realtime stats, invites, voice chat, etc.

You bring Nintendo IPs in on that way to play and I'm good.

Also, Virtual Console 2 needs to support remote multiplayer. The emulator needs to connect to other Wiis in a host mode like PC emulators have been doing for years. Enforce everyone to have the game purchased, fine.

Kelkee

I agree completely.

The devs of games now are not seeing the big picture here it seems. If you make a stand alone game, you have to put so much development into it so that it stands on its own that its almost getting to be unprofitable.

Whereas you design a game with DLC in mind or an active online community the game will take on a life of its own and remain profitable long after initial sales. Essentially you can break up the game into several smaller releases instead of making one big release that takes years to make.

I would much rather have a Zelda/Metroid/Mario game with an online community that is continually updated with content than spending hours playing the thing once thru and never playing it again as a stand alone game. It has no replay value for me anymore after the once thru.

Michael Corvin

Those are all stand alone games though that don't require a community. For me all they need to do is provide some stand out single player games. There is no community and there never will be so why bother at this point? If I want community I turn on the 360. Give me Super Mario Galaxy 2, Kid Icarus, Pikmin 3, a new F-Zero or Waverace.

Kelkee

The problem is that this type of gaming is not evolving. Yes its fun but its not 2008 fun. Its 1990 fun.

How do you know what an online zelda or mario would be like if they are just keep on keepin' on with the same old same old?

These franchises need to adapt to gaming in the 20th century. Its nice to flash back to 20 years ago, and that is what the VC is for. But for new releases they really need to bring the online aspect in. Maybe not so much turn them all into a MMORPG-fest, but at least build in some DLC, and messaging, meet-ups, avatars, chats etc.