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atari2600 02-17-08 10:27 PM

is the new guitar hero video game awesome?
 
ive seen it before and it looks fun as hell...tried the demo at a best buy and it was fun even though i sucked. i dont own any video game consoles and havent played video games regularly in at least 10 years. not that i hate them or am anti-video game...just stopped having time and the interested faded over time (as a kid i was addicted to them).

anyways, im interested in getting guitar hero...looks like a fun game to play once and awhile...a few questions first...

a) is it as fun as it seems? thoughts on the game itself?

b) how much will it cost to get it going (remember, i have no consoles to begin with so i need that as well)...is it an xbox game? ps3?

c) is it worth it if i dont buy/play any other games?

thanks.

DVD Josh 02-17-08 10:38 PM

You should check out either of the two GH3 threads with several hundred posts for as much information as anyone could possibly ever want about GH.

Decker 02-17-08 10:38 PM

If only there were a thread already about this game.....

It's awesome. Plain and simple. Really fun and unlike any other type of game. GH III is available for the PS3, 360, Wii, PS2 and even the PC. So if you have a PC, that might be the easiest option for you. The game with a guitar peripheral is $90-100. (It's $10 off all platforms at CC either this week or at least until tomorrow. Well worth it, but I certainly wouldn't buy a $400 console just to be able to play one game...

dvdsteve2000 02-17-08 10:40 PM

I think GH3 is actually the least fun to play, compared to I/II/80's. Rock Band is the way to go, even if you're just playing guitar. At least you get DLC with RB every week.

Michael Corvin 02-18-08 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
I think GH3 is actually the least fun to play, compared to I/II/80's. Rock Band is the way to go, even if you're just playing guitar. At least you get DLC with RB every week.

On the flipside I think it is more fun than any of those. First having master tracks instead of covers is a huge deal so that trumps I, II & 80s right there. Second, Rock Band is fun, but there is little challenge if you are just getting it for guitar. There's no way I would recommend it over GHIII just for a "guitar" game.

The cheapest route to jump in would be getting a PS2 followed by Wii, 360 then PS3.

Shagrath 02-18-08 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Second, Rock Band is fun, but there is little challenge if you are just getting it for guitar. There's no way I would recommend it over GHIII just for a "guitar" game.

You always say this, and yet I see you don't have the achievement for beating it on Expert. There is most assuredly a challenge on songs played at the Expert level. I would be in total agreement if you or I could totally breeze through everything on Expert, but there's stuff that still gives me a challenge, as I have yet to beat Ride the Lightning on guitar.

lordwow 02-18-08 06:39 AM

No, it's not fun at all. We play it only as a chore.

Michael Corvin 02-18-08 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Shagrath
You always say this, and yet I see you don't have the achievement for beating it on Expert. There is most assuredly a challenge on songs played at the Expert level. I would be in total agreement if you or I could totally breeze through everything on Expert, but there's stuff that still gives me a challenge, as I have yet to beat Ride the Lightning on guitar.

I can't deny that. I beat it on hard, moved on to drums and have done some vocals. For guitar I moved back to GHIII because the songs were just more fun to play, IMO.

Ever since Rock Band came out there's been this overwhelming attitude around here that GHIII is shit and can't co-exist. I just wanted to give GHIII a fair shake since I knew people would be coming in here touting RB.

edstein 02-18-08 08:40 AM

I like GHIII better than RB from a guitar perspective as well. The HO's and PO's are more forgiving in GHIII. Master tracks FTW. And, the guitar itself is much better plus its wireless.

Groucho 02-18-08 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by lordwow
No, it's not fun at all. We play it only as a chore.

:lol: Admittedly, sometimes it does feel like a chore when you're trying to master some difficult solo so you can pass a song. :lol:

DVD Josh 02-18-08 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
:lol: Admittedly, sometimes it does feel like a chore when you're trying to master some difficult solo so you can pass a song. :lol:

Or get past the fast runs of Raining Blood in expert. I've resigned myself to the fact it's impossible.

ytrez 02-18-08 10:07 AM

I love Guitar Hero 1 & 2, hate 3. I love Rock Band.

My quick answer is that the games are a hell of a lot of fun.

CKMorpheus 02-18-08 10:51 AM

Rock Band is totally worth the extra money. I heard its on sale this week at Target ....or maybe that was last week :-\

WepaMan 02-18-08 11:04 AM

Guitar Hero is $10 dollars off at Circuit City this week with an additional 10% code they give you at checkout. This applies to all versions and free shipping as well, picked up PS3 version for $87 after taxes.

Rock Band is on sale at Target this week for $149.

I'm also with ytrex, Guitar Hero 3 is the worst of the Guitar Heroes. The song selection is excellent but the musical accuracy is garbage. Let me explain. With Guitar Hero 1 and 2 Harmonix had note layouts that make sense from a musical standpoint, in other words the solos and chords felt natural. Neversoft on the other hand, put in crap notes and chords in Guitar Hero 3 just to make it difficult. Adding notes and chords just for the sake of adding them and as a result sometimes it doesn't feel like you're playing the song on the guitar... it just feels like you're pressing buttons.

I know, I know its just a game... however Harmonix are the musicians and you can tell right away with the differences between the two developers.

In summation, don't waste your money as Guitar Hero and Rock Band suck donkey dongs. :)

rabbit77 02-18-08 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by edstein
I like GHIII better than RB from a guitar perspective as well. The HO's and PO's are more forgiving in GHIII. Master tracks FTW. And, the guitar itself is much better plus its wireless.

Same here. The forgiving HO/POs make impossible solos do-able. IMO visually I like the layout of the notes being circles way better than the bars. It's easier to tell HOPO's in GH to me at least than a bar that's a little bit smaller.

And I don't know if anyone's ever played Klax, but I feel like I'm playing Klax when I play Rock Band.

Also in Rock Band, when you miss a note, it's not as obvious as it is in GH. That's important when you're in the middle of a solo because you need to re-strum to get the combo going again right away.

OTOH, Rock Band is the game that comes out when people are over, that's for sure.

And to answer the original question, yes GH3 is all kinds of awesome, no matter what skill level you're at. It's worth the money to get a PS2 and rock out with it.

Krayzie 02-18-08 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by WepaMan
Rock Band is on sale at Target this week for $149.

If you have a sams club membership, Rock Band is $149 there as well.

RichC2 02-18-08 12:31 PM

I can't stand the HO/PO in GH3, it's just entirely too easy. Also not a fan of the note charts, they're more realistic but not more fun to play.

That said, GH2 and Rock Band are my favorites.

Jeremy517 02-18-08 12:41 PM

I like GH2 a lot better than GH3. The note charts in GH3 are pretty bad.

eatntae 02-18-08 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by WepaMan
Rock Band 3 is the worst of the Guitar Heroes.

:confused:

Michael Corvin 02-18-08 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jeremy517
I like GH2 a lot better than GH3. The note charts in GH3 are pretty bad.


Originally Posted by WepaMan
Neversoft on the other hand, put in crap notes and chords in Guitar Hero 3 just to make it difficult.


Originally Posted by RichC2
I can't stand the HO/PO in GH3, it's just entirely too easy. Also not a fan of the note charts, they're more realistic but not more fun to play.

:hscratch: I've seen this before in the other threads but never brought it up. Which is it people? Are the note charts accurate or not? I've seen posts indicating both ways in the various threads. Obviously everyone can't be correct.

In the end it all comes down to "is it fun." I don't know anything about original note charts, but it's one of those things people pull from the well when trashing Neversoft and GHIII that I usually ignore since I have fun regardless.

Just curious.

RichC2 02-18-08 01:21 PM

The thing is, it seems like they pulled the charts directly from the songs, which on one hand is a good idea... On the other hand, it's still a game being played on a toy guitar with 5 buttons, it doesn't transition well and you wind up losing the illusion you're playing anything at all.

It's decent enough on Hard though nothing special, on Expert though it just winds up feeling way, way off.

WepaMan 02-18-08 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by eatntae
:confused:

Corrected the typo, I hope you didn't hurt yourself trying to figure out what I meant.

dvdsteve2000 02-18-08 03:56 PM

GH:3 has some of the best songs from any series, including Rock You Like A Hurricane, which is one of my all time faves. The game just isn't fun to play (for me) even though I LOVE alot of the songs on there. In comparison, GH:2 had a ton of songs that I never liked (or heard before), but the game was so much freakin' fun it consumed my entire summer last year (sorry kids). There's just something about GH3 that isn't...fun.

Spending an extra $50-60 on Rock Band seems like a no brainer to me. If you get sick of playing guitar, guess what, there are two more complete games awaiting you (vocals & drums). RB is also unmatched when you have friends over to play...great times. I have an absolute blast playing with my wife (no musical talent), and my 5 & 7 year old sons. The game is exactly what GH3 doesn't bring...fun.

Both of my sons played the living shit out of GH2 (my 7 year old plays on hard), but combined between my two boys, GH3 has been played for about 2 hours, and I bought it on release day.

rabbit77 02-18-08 04:18 PM

And on the other end of the spectrum you've got a dude like me, who spent 2 hours on just "Start Soloing!" in Cult of Personality last night.

The CoP solo is the most freaking fun thing to play in any game I've ever played.

Music 02-18-08 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by WepaMan
Corrected the typo, I hope you didn't hurt yourself trying to figure out what I meant.

You would have been better off writing :


If it weren't for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college.
They both cause the same reaction...


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