Games w unique controllers in the future?
 

They were talking about how games like Rockband & Guitar Hero were doing so well despite needing their own controller to play. They speculated that more games would come out with their own 'controller requirements' like it was an emerging trend. It made me think about how peoples biggest complaint with FPS was that they didnt use a mouse/keyboard. Do you think there will be a type of FPS game to come out in the future that will have its own kind of controller that will do better to bring console FPS and Computer FPS games together? Not saying an actual keyboard and mouse but something similar that everyone would use?

I don't think so. I think the rhythm games are kind of unique in requiring a peripheral and maintaining its usefulness (through yearly updates). Stuff like the GunCon 3 and PlayStation Eye will still remain niche products and minimally supported.

Rock Band is doing well? In the last weekly sales thread it didn't even crack the top 10. Other than that, I think you've raised some good discussion points.

Im surprised what ive heard about 'scene it' on this board (not sure about actual sales) but it seems like developers are feeling more willing to introduce other input devices if they think it will add to gameplay.

personally i would love to see the power glove come back. with technology nowadays they could make it 10x better

Scene It is less about that, and more about getting more casual gamers to buy games, and the current 'party game' trend.

In my opinion, I think the "unique" controller would be cost too much and waste money.

As for FPS, mouse/keyboard are already designed perfectly for FPS. There's many designs that are bit different from mouse/keyboard, but they didn't take off very well. People rather buy cheaper method to use to play the game. XBox 360 should design to make universal mouse/keyboard to work on 360 - well, keyboard is already able to work on 360, but not mouse.

I am not sure if a gimmick like that would work. How many times have they tried already? I think the appeal for the music games out now is that everyone wants to be a rock star.

Before that they had the Mech game for the Xbox that needed that huge control station with the pedals and everything and that did horrid in sales and is hard as hell to play because you have to set up this huge control station and get everything lined up properly before you can even start to play.

Further more lots of fighting games can make use of the joystick controllers but how many people actually buy those things? Only the most hardcore of hardcore which is a small demographic and hardly worth focusing on.

I think the Wiimote is about as crazy as one needs right now. Also in regards to the FPS comment why would they need to make a mouse and keyboard combo when the Wiimote turns in to a gun itself?

Most 360 owners don't have 4 controllers, so Scene It!'s built in 4-controllers solves that problem.

Rock Band is still selling out, its sales increased week to week from last week, but it was still nearly impossible to find on shelves. Will be interested to see how this week turns out now that it is readily available.

Scene It needed to include the controllers, it needs 3 or 4 players and also needed to justify a full game price tag (I love the game personally and like the controllers).

I love Peripheral devices but I am gathering a few too many, including:

1 x Rock Band set (Guitar, Drums, Mic), 1 x Karaoke Revolution set (Mic), 1 x Taiko Set (Taiko Drum), 1 x Beatmania Set (Uhm, Keyboard/DJ station?), 2 x Pump It Up (Dance mats), 1 x Scene It? LCA set (4 mini pads), 2 x Guitar Hero II sets... and a couple others, always wanted Pop N Music -

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- and Samba, and lest we forget, Steel Battalion on the Xbox:

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I can see more of those being really popular :lol:.

The Eye can easily do that... however, it's too early.

rotfl

Personally, i really want a controller like a gun for FPS... Okay, it could be some sci-fi designs or something, i don't really care. Basically you move the crosshair and shot with the gun controller. It's a bit like MP3 Corruption i guess.

Not around here. Just yesterday I saw somebody nearly knock over a Rock Band display on their way to grab the last copy of GH3.

If I were to guess what the public was thinking, it would be that perhaps Rock Band is a cheap knock-off of Guitar Hero. But ultimately I have no idea. The whole thing baffles me.

Haha bummer, hard to compete with the tried and true. Both are sold out here. That said, they did just restock Rock Band at most places in the last couple days.

I've been seeing Rockband everywhere as well, but I think it's selling fine for what it is.

I hope this doesn't become a trend. I've been avoiding games with special controllers like the plague since the early days of console gaming.

It sounds like the times is right for R.O.B. to make a comeback!

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All kidding aside, I think there's definitely a limit on how many specialty controllers people want to have lying around.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ontrollers.jpg

Proud owner of that one, myself. Granted, it the price tag on it was around $300 bucks and I never made it past the first level, but damn, it's a nice conversation piece among the nerds.

I actually saw something like that on display at E3 2 years ago. I forgot what company was making it. Basically it was a big gun, and you would still move it around like a mouse against a pad but the rest of it could aim around. It was kind of neat.

But generally, there have been shit loads of peripherals designed to replace the keyboard/mouse on the PC for shooters. None of them have taken off, although i think the Nostromo pad had some fans.

http://www.news.com/New-game-control....html?part=dtx

How about the no controller option ;)

Ugh... I don't want to dance around front of my desktop.

I'm still waiting for a Lightsaber Controller for a future Wii Star Wars game. With that fanbase they could sell multiple designs all day long.

Exactly the reason why I don't play the Wii a lot. When I play a game I want to sit and relax, not thrash around like an epileptic.

It sounds like you haven't played it at all if that's how you think Wii games are played.

You're playing it wrong.

It is all about software support. Something like the Guncon needs other companies to develop games for it (which seemed to happen more with the Guncon 1 than the PS2 version). The problem from the publisher's perspective is that you're selling to a niche audience... the ones that already bought the unique controller in question. So do you always have a bundle option, in order to not alienate new prospective buyers? Who's going to stock the oversized boxes?

I'm actually a little surprised that there weren't more games that take advantage of Eyetoy support or the Xbox camera... those are first party peripherals, and you could do some nice stuff like Rainbow 6's face mapping (and the Eyetoy was supported in Karaoke Revolution for a similar feature), but to this day, that's the only game I can remember that used that feature at all. I'm hoping the PS Eye fares a little better.

Well, the big problem with that was the $200 price tag. Many of us thought it was really cool but of course balked at the price. Remember, back then that seemed really expensive because it was the same cost as the console - it would be like buying a $400 game now. Maybe now a $200 game would be more accepted since the consoles cost so much more (although they'd probably just charge more).

This really surprises and frustrates me. I was so looking forward to the 360 camera so i could get the minigame collections that i assumed would be coming out. Then nothing. A shame really.

I'm not playing it wrong, it is just impossible for me to just sit still and play. I always end up getting into whatever game I'm playing. Like if I am playing football I always end up playing and doing the Heisman in the middle of my living room.

I'd argue that's your fault, not the controller. I also want to sit and relax while playing games, and unless we are playing Wii Sports in a group setting(where standing up and actually doing the motions is the whole point), I have no problems sitting on my couch and playing Metroid, Mario or Zelda.

:hscratch:

Uh... what?

So you want to sit still and play but then you can't help but get off the couch and enjoy yourself? It sounds like you're repressing fun. :lol: ;)

most likely you gonna get the lightsaber shell... they will never make a "full" length lightsaber controller, just too much liability involved.

The wiimote is not exactly a relaxing controller for anally-precision-required controls. My arms hurt from playing Link's crossbow (the damn targets, i did use the Zapper). Also, a bit sore from Mario Galaxy (don't get me wrong, the game is a 9.9/10 in my book), the 1st Speedy Comet challenge... I tend to believe that mini-games are best for the wiimote, i.e. you get to "rest" in between games. For games like Zelda and MP3C, the wiimote can be taxing (comparing to the traditional controllers) over time.

I just realized that the shooting games with the wiimote, you're not really shooting the spot you're pointing at. I got one of those 3rd party "shell gun" with a laser pointer, the actual spot you're aiming is waaaay off where the on screen cross hair is at. Of course, that doesn't ruin the game play experience at all (you don't really feel it when the cross hair is on). However, it won't work if you turn the cross hair off (i doubt you could do that).

I still want a shotgun controller for myriad hunting games that are in the arcades, and always busy, but never make it to the consoles. :grunt:

that's what i'm hoping :) a gun controller with feedbacks/rumbles, ah, that would be totally awesome after a long day of work...

Er...vibrating "gun"? What exactly do you have in mind. Actually, never mind...I withdraw the question.

ewww, now you just made the Wiimote more repulsive for me (note to self, try not to think what Groucho said when playing SMG).

I don't know what your talking about I just. . .

ITS TRUE...SO TRUE. I AM AFRAID TO HAVE FUN! :(


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Thank you The Bus.