Question about XBLA & multiple accounts
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Question about XBLA & multiple accounts
I have two accounts on my 360, mine, and one for the wife & kids. My account is a new account, since my old account lapsed and is no longer recoverable. Also, the day Halo 3 came out, I exchanged my 360 for a new Halo edition. I recovered my XBLA purchases (made with the wife and kid's acct), but my Oblivion DL's are lost because they were purchased with my old (and expired) account. One of the XBLA purchases that we made was Bankshot Billiards. Now, when I play it on the wife's acct, all is good, but when I sign in with MY acct, it only gives me the trial. Is this right? Before I exchanged the 360, my Oblivion downloads blanketed any account that was signed in. No matter which acct you signed in with, you had the Knights of Nine, Vial Lair, etc... Why isn't it letting me do that with XBLA?
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all downloads are tied to the gamertag and 360. You dumped the 360 you downloaded them with originally so the only way to play them is to be signed in to the gamertag you recovered them with.
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wait, how does the gamertag lapse and become non-recoverable?
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Originally Posted by fujishig
wait, how does the gamertag lapse and become non-recoverable?
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Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
If you let it expire, and it stays expired for 60 days (I think, maybe 90), you can't recover that tag, and if you get a new 360, all DL's are lost forever that were associated with that acct.. I let the tag expire because I was going to make a new one anyhow, and all the stuff I DL'd was still on my 360, so no big deal, right? WRONG! When I exchanged my 360, I lost all my DL's. I fought with MS and they basically said "Screw you, buddy!".
Thanks for the info, though. I signed up my buddies with the free month of Live, with the intention that they could use the gamertag again when they get a 360... had no idea they expire.
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Yeah, the tag stays in limbo...you can't EVER use it again, but it doesn't 'go back into the mix' either. It's like a dead person's social security number.
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Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
If you let it expire, and it stays expired for 60 days (I think, maybe 90), you can't recover that tag,
How does a gamertag go into expiration? Will simply not playing the gamertag for XX number of days do it?
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No, if it was a gold account, when your XX months expire and you don't renew your gold membership for said amount of days, it dies. Your DL's will still be playable, as mine were, as long as you have the same 360, FOR as long as you have the same 360. My problem was mine was working crappy, so I exchanged it.
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How does a gamertag "expire"? Just no activity--silver or gold--for X (60, 90) days?
Can a tag with a gold account expire?
edit: So if I'm gold, then let that Gold lapse (ie don't renew), I can lose my tag? I thought I went silver?
Can a tag with a gold account expire?
edit: So if I'm gold, then let that Gold lapse (ie don't renew), I can lose my tag? I thought I went silver?
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Originally Posted by dtcarson
edit: So if I'm gold, then let that Gold lapse (ie don't renew), I can lose my tag? I thought I went silver?
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Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
No, if it was a gold account, when your XX months expire and you don't renew your gold membership for said amount of days, it dies.
If not, what a scam... I have enough invested in XBLA that I would essentially be forced to keep Gold, even if I only needed Silver.
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You may want to check into if & how you can go silver after a gold membership expires. I just assumed, and you know what happens when you assume...you get fucked.
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Wow. OK, the lockdown on XBLA games with a new console is bad enough, but this is pure-d bullshit. At least it could be argued that the one-360 thing for games/DLC is a piracy prevention, but what's the benefit in MS's eyes to eradicating a gamertag? If I were to lose my (current) piddling 1500 gamerscore points because of this, it sure wouldn't make me rebuy (if sold) and replay the games, I'd say F* it, if they don't want my account, fine.
It does say, for Silver,
"Access Xbox Live Marketplace including Xbox Live Arcade, demos, and trailers", and I can't imaging they wouldn't want to sell games to Silver members, but then again, I'm not Microsoft, and I can't imaging pushing a product with a 33%-100% failure rate.
Here's a response from Microsoft:
Regarding your inquiry, if you purchased a pre-paid membership and you do not have a renewal set, you will drop from the Gold membership tier to the Silver membership tier when your Gold membership expires. When this occurs, you no longer have multiplayer online gaming privileges. However, you do still have access to all the Silver membership features. Additionally, you keep your gamertag and can download content from the Xbox Live Marketplace.
If you have a credit card renewal set and that card is in decline, you will carry an outstanding balance and will go through the standard decline cycle, not dropping to the Silver tier.
"
so you should be able to keep it, but maybe if you go "idle" and don't log in in X days, they'll kill it.
It does say, for Silver,
"Access Xbox Live Marketplace including Xbox Live Arcade, demos, and trailers", and I can't imaging they wouldn't want to sell games to Silver members, but then again, I'm not Microsoft, and I can't imaging pushing a product with a 33%-100% failure rate.
Here's a response from Microsoft:
Regarding your inquiry, if you purchased a pre-paid membership and you do not have a renewal set, you will drop from the Gold membership tier to the Silver membership tier when your Gold membership expires. When this occurs, you no longer have multiplayer online gaming privileges. However, you do still have access to all the Silver membership features. Additionally, you keep your gamertag and can download content from the Xbox Live Marketplace.
If you have a credit card renewal set and that card is in decline, you will carry an outstanding balance and will go through the standard decline cycle, not dropping to the Silver tier.
"
so you should be able to keep it, but maybe if you go "idle" and don't log in in X days, they'll kill it.
Last edited by tonyc3742; 10-31-07 at 05:12 PM.
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One other thing relating to the original post : I believe if you BOTH log in prior to purchase, then the purchased game will be tied to both accounts and be playable on a new console when either is logged in. I may be wrong, but I think I've read that before.
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That doesn't sound right. It has to be just the gamertag actually buying the game otherwise people could have their friends come over, log in and tie it to their account, go home and redownload it on their system.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That doesn't sound right. It has to be just the gamertag actually buying the game otherwise people could have their friends come over, log in and tie it to their account, go home and redownload it on their system.
Spoiler:
Last edited by Decker; 11-01-07 at 09:46 AM.