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Originally Posted by MadonnasManOne
There's no reason to be rude. I wasn't rude in my response. Did I hit some sort of nerve in you? Maybe it's you that should find another "form" (which I assume you meant forum). I'm not going to go somewhere else, just because you think I should.
I have as much right to voice my opinion as anyone else. I'm just saying that, from my experience, the negative opinions being voiced here, aren't representative of the majority of Wii owners. If you don't agree with that, that's fine. That's no reason to tell me to shove off. Seriously. |
Originally Posted by fumanstan
In regards to this forum and thread, I'd say that's bullshit. The thread asked what people thought of the Wii after a year, and people answered honestly. Not because bashing Nintendo is the thing to do. It's because some people are legitimately disappointed, whether it be in the games that have been released so far or in my case, because the controls simply haven't felt revolutionary.
There's legitimate criticisms out there, whether you want to believe them or not. Perhaps some folks were expecting something else from the Wii, but I think Nintendo has delivered on their casual/complimentary console. The company who brought the Dpad, shoulder buttons, analog control and vibration has brought us something new and different. It may not be your thing though...and that's fine. I have a few legitimate criticisms myself. Nintendo's online scheme is completely retarded and virtual console games are overpriced. Still, I think this has been the best first year any console has experienced...ever. |
Basically, my Wii should be renamed the "Resident Evil 4 console" because that's all I play on it. :lol: I got stuck on Metroid 3 and wasn't all that jazzed about starting to play it again after getting into RE4. But I keep saying I'm gonna buy Nintendo only games like the Mario games, and maybe some cute quirky Japanese games but so far I haven't found anything I really really want. A lot of the Wii games I see are rehashed games with new control schemes and while that worked well on RE4, I'm not sure I'll like anything else.
That said, I'm generally happy with my Wii purchase and I look forward to what they'll have in the coming year. But I'm not too excited about anything at this point. Event the new Resident Evil game using the Wii Zapper gives me a "House of the Dead" light gun feel. Not that that's a bad thing, but even with the Wii controls I never liked light gun games on home consoles. |
I'm glad Nintendo took another chance with the controls. It seems every system they've put out pushes the envelope of user/game interaction.
I'm back to playing Metroid having finished Halo3. Both games are 1st person so I think it's fair to compare the controls. The Wiimote is by far the better controller for this type of game. Trying to move an on-screen cursor to a target with an analog stick is a challenge outside of the game itself. The challenge shouldn't be mastering the controller - it should be mastering the game. Nintendo has moved gaming in that direction. Unfortunately the controls don't always work. I have been in boss battles in Metroid where my weapon without reason suddenly points down. It can't be anything I'm doing because I play the same way each time. The sensor also struggles when moving the Wiimote to and fro. But when it works, the Wiimote is the best controller ever. I expect it to get better. The Wii graphics are better than I expected. The artwork in Metroid is breathtaking. I really feel as though I'm in another world. I hope Nintendo can take what it has accomplished with Wii and build on it for the next system they put out. Wii has met my expectations. |
Originally Posted by chess
Okami, I assume.
Because it is and always has been and probably always will be a AAA game. Other than some of the early PS1 titles and the early NES titles that haven't aged well (I'm looking at you Resident Evil), if a game was ever a AAA title, it always will be. If I played SMB3 for the first time today, would it not be a AAA title? Super Metroid? GTA3? Ratchet and Clank? At any rate, I never played it on PS2, so it's certainly a AAA game to me...and if using the pointer for the celestial brush feels good, then all the better. :up: |
Originally Posted by chess
Agreed. It's just the internet audience, who in scope of the bigger market (the one Nintendo is going after) are completely meaningless. They beat up Nintendo, because it's the thing to do...apparently, but they never take into account their favorite console's first year.
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I'm gonna chime in and say that I love my Wii. I was promoted 2 years ago into an upper management position and I don't have the time to play games like I use to. So I wouldn't be a hardcore gamer, but I'm not someone who just plays wii sports. I own Zelda(still sealed), RE4(still sealed), Trauma center, wii play, Marvel UA and Metal Slug. I've rented Super Paper Mario (and finished it) as well as Sonic, Mario Party 8, Wario Ware, Big Brain Academy, Excite Truck, Pirates, and Monkey Ball.
I was satisfied with my purchase on the first day I played wii sports. Although I've rented a couple of real stinkers, I still feel completely satisfied with the gaming experiences that the wii has brought to not only myself but my friends as well. I do not own a 360 or PS3. I can't justify the $60 price tag on most games. I've still got 8 sealed PS2 games and 1 sealed gamecube game and even a sealed copy of Final Fantasy 9 that I got for Christmas years back that I still haven't gotten around to playing. So I guess you could say I've fallen into the casual gamer category, but I still know what I like to play and I felt the Wii would provide me with the best gaming choices. |
Originally Posted by abrg923
My point is that you guys are touting these games that have already been released on other systems as great reasons to get a Wii...I'd rather just get them on the other systems and pay less. :shrug:
I, personally, have never touted RE4. I have the game for the GameCube, so, I don't really feel the need to buy it for Wii. Although, I have several people telling me that I really need to play it on Wii, because the controls truly are best suited for the Wii Remote. Also, speaking of price, I wouldn't say that $29.99 is paying more. Yes, $29.99 for what many reviewers are calling the ULTIMATE version of RE4. I HAVE touted RE: Umbrella Chronicles, which I believe you must be confusing RE4 for. RE: Umbrella Chronicles is a new game. At any rate, it's not going to do me any good trying to convince those that do not enjoy Wii. However, I hope that those reading these types of thread, who are thinking about getting one, do not let the negative opinions from some of these members, disuade them from buying a system that truly is a joy. |
Just to toss in some more silly anecdotal stuff into the thread I was shocked to see the Wii version of Guitar Hero III sold out everywhere I went today besides Best Buy which had tons of all the versions. I checked a few Gamestops close by and they were all sold out of the Wii version. Target and Wal-Mart were out as well. The other versions were in stock.
Granted this may be simply because they ordered less of the Wii version, but I think a sell out is still a good sign. I will be very interested in seeing the sales numbers. The 360 and PS2 will probably sell the best especially since people can buy the game without a guitar. I expect the Wii version to clobber the PS3 version if todays sales are any indication. |
Originally Posted by MadonnasManOne
I am just utterly disappointed in some of the responses in this thread. I really can't believe that the negative opinions voiced in this thread are representative of the majority of Wii owners. I know quite a few people who own a Nintendo Wii, and they are still very actively playing it. They have parties, where several people gather to play. They also play games that are single player, and enjoy them quite a bit. They are younger adults, who are very excited about the system, the games they have, and the games on the horizon. I believe that this thread is really only attracting those who the system doesn't appeal to, because, as they say, those who are truly happy with something, don't really respond. It's those who complain that have the most to say.
I have no doubt that the future for Nintendo Wii is very bright, indeed. With so many great games on the way, such as Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, Okami, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, and titles that we haven't even heard about, yet. If none of those games interest you, and from a couple of responses that I've read, they don't, then you are not a Nintendo customer. True Nintendo Wii fans are very excited by these games, and are likely to be very pleased with them. Many of these titles are the Triple AAA games we've been waiting for, and I know many people, outside of these boards, who are extremely excited by them, who are very pleased to be Wii owners, and who are playing video games more than ever, because of the Nintendo Wii. I have a 360 party every night at my house, playing online with up to 1,000,000 of my closest friends, and I also play some single player games as well, like Bioshock, Crackdown, and Dead Rising. My 5 & 7 year old sons log in more time playing Halo 2&3, Bioshock, and GH2 in a week than the Wii has been used in a year at my house. As for the stellar titles that you mentioned: Galaxy will be a Christmas present for my kids because I'm hoping we can finally get some use out of this thing. Mario Kart, hmmm...after having it on the GC, Wii, and the VC, I think I'll pass. Wiifit-Got a gym in the basement. Smash Bros brawl-After playing the VF5 demo, that'll be my purchase. Res Evil: UC- I'll go with RE:5 (Hate Crimes) on the 360. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic games-Are you serious? True Nintendo Wii fans are very excited by these games, and are likely to be very pleased with them. Many of these titles are the Triple AAA games we've been waiting for, and I know many people, outside of these boards, who are extremely excited by them, who are very pleased to be Wii owners, and who are playing video games more than ever, because of the Nintendo Wii. |
Originally Posted by dvdsteve2000
I guess I'm not a true Nintendo fan :( Your views, however, remind me of the Jahovah Witness that comes to my door and tries ramming that crap down my throat. I don't like the Wii so far, and not only am I glad you're disappointed in me, I hope the Nintendo Corp is also. If they are, maybe they'll make a game I like. I really don't care if you like the Wii, or not. It's too bad that you don't, but, there are a great many more than the minority represented here that DO enjoy it. I could care less if you, your children, or anyone else you know gets more use out of your 360. I find it hard to believe you have a 360 party at your house, every night. I also hardly doubt that you have 1,000,000 million close friends. I'd be surprised, with your attitude, that you have any. My point is, you are bashing the Wii, and trying to make the 360 look better than it is. That's beside the point. I can read between the lines, and I can say that, with your statements, Nintendo will never make a game you like. If they haven't already, they never will. That is my point with my statements. You are never going to be pleased with the system, if you aren't already. So, your negative opinions aren't really indicitive of the majority of Wii owners, who are happy with their purchase, and bought the system knowing what types of games they like. |
Originally Posted by MadonnasManOne
I really don't care if you like the Wii, or not. It's too bad that you don't, but, there are a great many more than the minority represented here that DO enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by MadonnasManOne
At any rate, it's not going to do me any good trying to convince those that do not enjoy Wii. However, I hope that those reading these types of thread, who are thinking about getting one, do not let the negative opinions from some of these members, disuade them from buying a system that truly is a joy.
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Originally Posted by chess
Agreed. It's just the internet audience, who in scope of the bigger market (the one Nintendo is going after) are completely meaningless. They beat up Nintendo, because it's the thing to do...apparently, but they never take into account their favorite console's first year.
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I'm not trying to rub anyone the wrong way. I guess I shouldn't have said anything, but, I am defending something I do believe in. I want people to give this system a chance, beyond the first year. The first year of most consoles lives are not their best. In fact, I would say the first year of any consoles life has not been their best year. There are games coming out that should please even those who are disappointed, if they will give them a chance.
At any rate, let's move on. |
Madonna: IF people do not want to give it a shot, Who cares if they don't? Nintendo is making a crap ton in selling just the Wiis themselves. They are not taking a loss, and their focus is on hitting non-traditional gaming groups, women, young children, and basically those who are not hardcore gamers or FPS'ers.
I know when you love a system, you want everyone to love it, but its just not going to happen. |
Originally Posted by Chris_D
I've definitely seen the anecdotal evidence first hand of people loving their wii and the games on it. However, the tepid game sales of many of the wii titles suggest that there are other people out there than just this forum or even the internet Nintendo fanbase who are letting their wii collect dust, or only playing wii sports (OK for Nintendo, but not so great for 3rd parties).
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Originally Posted by chess
Nine "million-selling" games in the first year. Somebody's buying them. :shrug:
Wii Play - 6.45 Zelda - 3.8 Mario Party - 2.58 Wario Ware - 1.89 Paper Mario - 1.57 Rayman - 1.04 Red Steel - 1.02 And besides, not sure what that has to do with anything. Software sales seem to be a good deal lower then the 360, despite more Wii consoles sold. There's been plenty of info pointing out the lower software sales. That's just fact :shrug: |
Well, according to fact, the Nintendo Wii is NOT suffering from low software sales:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203492 This information shows that software sales for Wii, during the first year, are actually higher than the sales of software during the first year for XBOX 360 and Sony PS3. All of this crap about software not selling well on the Wii are coming from those who have created crap games, and expected them to become million sellers, just because the Wii has so many units out on the market. Again, the facts do not support this nonsense of Wii having lower software sales. |
Originally Posted by fumanstan
According to VGChartz, I only count 7.
Wii Play - 6.45 Zelda - 3.8 Mario Party - 2.58 Wario Ware - 1.89 Paper Mario - 1.57 Rayman - 1.04 Red Steel - 1.02 And besides, not sure what that has to do with anything. Software sales seem to be a good deal lower then the 360, despite more Wii consoles sold. There's been plenty of info pointing out the lower software sales. That's just fact :shrug: I'd be curious to see the 360's first year software sales for comparison. As for what it has to do with anything...I'm just responding to the weak game sales comment that I quoted. Nothing more. |
Originally Posted by chess
I'd be curious to see the 360's first year software sales for comparison.
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Originally Posted by chess
As for what it has to do with anything...I'm just responding to the weak game sales comment that I quoted. Nothing more.
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17438 Anyway, it almost goes without saying, that if you're a Nintendo fan interested in playing Nintendo 1st party games, then it's smooth sailing all the way on Wii. Or, as others have referred to it, if you just want a Wii Sports machine, it does that brilliantly also. |
1 year later and I've seen it in stores a grand total of 2 times. I'm going to have to wait until after the new year to get one.
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I'd like to make a comparison for Wii consoles vs 360/PS3 sales. Let's use Chevrolet as an example. From January 2007 to August 2007, here is the sales comparison of two cars, one being a lower-end, and one being high-end.
Chevy Cobalt- 163,300 Chevy Corvette- 25,849 Why is the Cobalt outselling the Corvette? Is it because it's better, or more affordable to the masses? Out of the 163,300 Cobalt owners, how many would've bought a Corvette instead, if they were the same price? Is the Cobalt a better car because it outsells the Corvette 6.13 to 1? Kind of a round-about way of what I'm trying to say, but alot of people won't spend $400-$600 on a game system, or figure why should they when they can get a next gen system for $250? For a casual gamer, the choice is simple. I bought a Wii because 1, I was curious about the new technology, and 2, I want my kids to have the new stuff. My 7 year old son was the only kid in his class last Christmas with a Wii, and there were only 2 kids in my 5 year olds class with them. Kinda cool. Did I want to hate the system, Hell No. Do I still hope they come out with games that someone in my family will play the heck out of, Hell yes, but those weren't the questions that the original poster asked. |
Don't knock the Cobalt...I just bought one four months ago. :)
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