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House 09-12-07 02:41 PM

Ninja Gaiden 2
 
I read on gamefaqs that this game will be published by MSFT game studios. Has anyone else read this?

pinata242 09-12-07 02:44 PM

Already being discussed in the main 360 thread (as well as the TGS thread, to a lesser degree).

Probably deserves it's own thread, though.

taffer 09-12-07 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by House
I read on gamefaqs that this game will be published by MSFT game studios. Has anyone else read this?

Yes. So score another exclusive for Microsoft.

funkyryno 09-12-07 04:33 PM

I watched the trailer last night -- purty graphics but not much substance to it.

House 09-12-07 04:35 PM

Did you play Ninja Gaiden 1 on original xbox? It had plenty of substance!

taffer 09-12-07 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by funkyryno
I watched the trailer last night -- purty graphics but not much substance to it.

Uh... duh... the trailer is a 10 second teaser that shows nothing but a cutscene. Of course there is no substance. Wait for actual gameplay videos to come out, then come back. If this game has even half the substance that the first Ninja Gaiden had, it will still have more substance than most of these hack-n-slash type of games have.

funkyryno 09-12-07 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by taffer
Uh... duh... the trailer is a 10 second teaser that shows nothing but a cutscene.

Thanks for enlightening me. I never would've figured that out.

taffer 09-12-07 05:05 PM

Sorry, I just couldn't understand how you could expect any teaser to have substance. It's called a teaser for a reason. :)

Anubis2005X 09-12-07 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by taffer
Yes. So score another exclusive for Microsoft.

Son of a...

EDIT: Why even make Ninja Gaiden Sigma if the sequel is just going to the 360? Bah...

Liver&Onions 09-12-07 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Son of a...

EDIT: Why even make Ninja Gaiden Sigma if the sequel is just going to the 360? Bah...

So that way Ninja Gaiden Zeta Jones can be exclusive to PS3. :)

taffer 09-12-07 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Son of a...

EDIT: Why even make Ninja Gaiden Sigma if the sequel is just going to the 360? Bah...

Maybe at the time they started on Sigma, MS had not yet bought exclusive rights to NG2? Or maybe Sigma was just a "test" of their next-gen engine, and they didn't want to release a third edition of the same game to the same Xbox audience so they released it to another audience who mostly had not experienced the awesomeness that is Ninja Gaiden? Who knows. :shrug:


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
So that way Ninja Gaiden Zeta Jones can be exclusive to PS3. :)

rotfl

Yeah, you just know there will be a Ninja Gaiden 2 Black a year or so after Ninja Gaiden 2 comes out.

Supermallet 09-12-07 06:09 PM

Hopefully the explosion of DLC since the first Xbox Ninja Gaiden will make stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2 Black or Ninja Gaiden 2 Frathouse Edition stuff that can be added on without buying the game all over again.

KurrptSenate 09-12-07 08:24 PM

Everyone knew this was going to be exclusive for months...

Honestly can't think of any game I want more, except maybe Soulcalibur 4

taffer 09-13-07 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
Everyone knew this was going to be exclusive for months...

There was never any announcement regarding anything of the sort; all we had was rumors of NG2 being in development, and we had no assurances of even that.

I think most people, including myself, figured that it would be a timed exclusive on the Xbox360 with a PS3 port following half a year later. Most people thought that Sigma was testing the waters so to speak to see how well it would do on the PS3. I don't think anyone expected that Microsoft themselves would actually publish the title.


Honestly can't think of any game I want more, except maybe Soulcalibur 4
I agree with you there (except for the Soul Calibur part; I don't like Street Fighter type of fighting games). NG 2 is my #1 most anticipated game now, followed closely by Assassin's Creed and Fallout 3.

thegame370 09-13-07 06:18 AM

Im incredibly excited about this. Ninja Gaiden was my favorite series on the NES and its shaping up to be one of my fav series of the new age of gaming.
With that said, i do hope there are more difficulty settings though, the original on the Xbox was hard as hell....

wlj 09-13-07 01:58 PM

Ninja Gaiden on Xbox = Greatest game of all time.

I have been playing games for 28 years

Lastblade 09-13-07 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Hopefully the explosion of DLC since the first Xbox Ninja Gaiden will make stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2 Black or Ninja Gaiden 2 Frathouse Edition stuff that can be added on without buying the game all over again.

At least NG Black was cheap though. But DLC would be very nice.

starseed1981 09-13-07 02:56 PM

Hell yes! Cannot wait for this. Screenshots=massive drool.

taffer 09-13-07 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by thegame370
With that said, i do hope there are more difficulty settings though, the original on the Xbox was hard as hell....

The original release had 3 difficulty settings: Normal, Hard, and Very Hard. Black added 2 more for a total of 5: Ninja Dog for the pussies who complained the game was too hard and Master Ninja for the masochists who thought Very Hard wasn't challenging enough. 5 difficulty settings is enough; what else could you want?

Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox wasn't really all that hard. It just had a very steep learning curve. Most people just random button mash these types of games, but you cannot do that in Ninja Gaiden or you will get your ass handed to you. Once you learn how to play it though, Ninja Gaiden is actually easy. Yes I said Ninja Gaiden is easy.* I honestly thought the NES games were much harder.

*Normal mode is easy in my opinion, but Very Hard and Master Ninja most certainly are not.



Originally Posted by wlj
Ninja Gaiden on Xbox = Greatest game of all time.

I partially agree. Ninja Gaiden was the best game of last-gen hands down, but not the best game of all time.

thegame370 09-13-07 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by taffer
The original release had 3 difficulty settings: Normal, Hard, and Very Hard. Black added 2 more for a total of 5: Ninja Dog for the pussies who complained the game was too hard and Master Ninja for the masochists who thought Very Hard wasn't challenging enough. 5 difficulty settings is enough; what else could you want?

Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox wasn't really all that hard. It just had a very steep learning curve. Most people just random button mash these types of games, but you cannot do that in Ninja Gaiden or you will get your ass handed to you. Once you learn how to play it though, Ninja Gaiden is actually easy. Yes I said Ninja Gaiden is easy.* I honestly thought the NES games were much harder.

*Normal mode is easy in my opinion, but Very Hard and Master Ninja most certainly are not.




I partially agree. Ninja Gaiden was the best game of last-gen hands down, but not the best game of all time.

Well maybe for you it was "easy" but to most, Normal mode on the original was harder than most games most difficult setting. At times it was very frustrating. Im all for games testing a gamers true skill, but with that said i tend to get abit ticked when the difficulty diminishes the fun factor. All in all, its such a beautiful game that once your done, you cant help to appreciate the experience and pat yourself on the back for completing it.
NGB is a different story, yes there was enough settings to accomodate everyone. Oh and the NES series is probably some of the hardest games ever.

Chris_D 09-13-07 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Son of a...

EDIT: Why even make Ninja Gaiden Sigma if the sequel is just going to the 360? Bah...

At this point, PS3 owners should be happy with whatever 360 left overs they're thrown..

(joke!)

taffer 09-16-07 05:59 PM

Gameplay video from TGS

:drool:

Some new things not in the first NG:

- Bodies and blood do not disappear, so after every battle there are piles of bodies and blood everywhere. Blood even accumulates on Ryu's weapon and he shakes it off at the end of battle. Badass!

- Two new weapons shown in the demo: a scythe and Wolverine-like claws.

- A regenerating health system. Health regenerates after every battle. There also appears to be permanent damage that does not regenerate, but it is healed at a save point. I am not sure what to think of this new system. The regenerating health would seem to make the game easier, but the semi-permanent damage would also make it harder.

Supermallet 09-16-07 06:06 PM

I like that health system. So much of the first Ninja Gaiden was spent buying potions to keep you alive, this should help things run a little more smoothly, and the permanent damage prevents it from becoming too easy.

Demontooth 09-16-07 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by taffer
The original release had 3 difficulty settings: Normal, Hard, and Very Hard. Black added 2 more for a total of 5: Ninja Dog for the pussies who complained the game was too hard and Master Ninja for the masochists who thought Very Hard wasn't challenging enough. 5 difficulty settings is enough; what else could you want?

Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox wasn't really all that hard. It just had a very steep learning curve. Most people just random button mash these types of games, but you cannot do that in Ninja Gaiden or you will get your ass handed to you. Once you learn how to play it though, Ninja Gaiden is actually easy. Yes I said Ninja Gaiden is easy.* I honestly thought the NES games were much harder.

*Normal mode is easy in my opinion, but Very Hard and Master Ninja most certainly are not.




I partially agree. Ninja Gaiden was the best game of last-gen hands down, but not the best game of all time.

I don't really consider myself a pussy but I couldn't get past that mother fucker on the horse.

taffer 09-16-07 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I like that health system. So much of the first Ninja Gaiden was spent buying potions to keep you alive, this should help things run a little more smoothly, and the permanent damage prevents it from becoming too easy.

I wonder if you will still be able to buy potions though. From watching that TGS video, it doesn't look like health regenerates during battle, only once battle is finished. For normal battles this isn't bad, since I hardly ever use healing potions during normal battle anyway, but what about boss battles? Not being able to heal yourself during a boss battle would be very difficult. Imagine fighting Alma without using any health potions. :eek:


Originally Posted by Demontooth
I don't really consider myself a pussy but I couldn't get past that mother fucker on the horse.

Yeah, the second boss in the game is the make-it-or-break-it point of the game where the real ninjas are separated from the rest of the losers. :p Almost every one that gives up on the game gives up at this exact point.

The block button is your best friend. Most games you never need to block at all, but Ninja Gaiden requires you to master your defensive skills or you will perish.

For this boss, just keep blocking and roll/dodging and only attack when you get an opening. Roll out of the way of the wizard guy's fireball attack (it goes through your block), and then immediately counter with a combo on him. Those wizard guys do quit spawning after about 10 or 12 of them, so it may be easier to kill them all first. They always drop a blue healing orb too. If you develop your essence charge attacks, you can pwn this boss in about 10 seconds with all those blue essence orbs. Otherwise, roll out of the horse's way, then do a quick 3-hit combo on his ass as he runs by. This boss is actually low on the difficulty scale compared to the most of the other bosses.


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