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mrpayroll 08-16-07 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
I didn't sign that post, but look at any of my others (including this one).

That's weird, I didn't know you could do that!

Chris

spainlinx0 08-16-07 12:48 PM

My girlfriend is the same way. She'll be watching something on standard, and I tell her I'm just going to switch the HD feed, and she actually gets annoyed. She absolutely does not care that the HD looks better. She just wants to watch the show.

mrpayroll 08-16-07 01:08 PM

So, it sounds like the women of the world are holding back the full implementation of HD Video? :mad:

Chris

DVDKrayzie 08-16-07 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
3 PS3s, and 3 HD-DVD players and your girlfriend doesn't even notice? I'd dump her.

She just doesnt care about HD. She actually hated it before I got 2 more PS3s because she'd only be able to watch certain movies in certain rooms. The average Joe (or Jane) doesn't really give a damn about HD (Especially the BluRay/HD-DVD fiasco) is all I was trying to say.

kakihara1 08-16-07 01:22 PM

I caught my Dad watching ESPN in Standard Def yesterday even though he has the HD package :( I know many people don't care but even my mom bitches constantly about how shitty the cable service looks on thier 53" Projection LCD. Those same channels look fantastic in HD but she can't be bothered with making her way down the list a few more pages to get the better picture ugh.

I understand why people aren't tossing their DVDs out the window in favor of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, replacing DVD collections with (available) HD counterparts is expensive. But what I don't understand is when people have these huge TVs and an SD and HD option of the exact same thing right in front of them, why they wouldn't just want the better picture? I have a huge DVD collection and I'm certainly not all about replacing all of them with HD right away but eventually they will be replaced for the better format.

It absolutely amazes me with all the advertising for HD that people still aren't educated on exactly what it is. I know a huge part of the problem is that when progressive scan DVD players were all the rage sales assholes at places like BB and CC would tell people that with an HDTV and progressive scan player they would get HD :(

If you know full well what HD is all about and you just don't give a shit about whether or not you can play a game or watch a movie in HD then who am I to judge? That's your call. But if see a friend playing a 360 on an HDTV in SD I just have to hang my head and think WTF?! The worst part is even at many stores the displays aren't correctly set up. I was at an EB games a few months back with Beandip and the display 360 there was on one of the Samsung 23" HDTVs displaying in fucking 480!!! :O :(

shumway 08-16-07 01:47 PM

It used to be that every time I walked into a Sam's Club or Wal-Mart they would have the HDTVs connected to a DVD player via composite cables. I wondered what the point was? These days they generally at least use component, but, often they play a fullscreen movie in stretch still. I'm really hoping w/ the push to sell HDTVs at Wal-mart, etc, to the masses, that they will start to scaleback their Fullscreen selection and improve their Widescreen selection at least.

pinata242 08-16-07 02:08 PM

At my neighbor's kid's birthday party a little over a year ago they were playing an Eagles DVD on their big, wide, EDTV (yes, ED). I noticed that it was showing 16:9 content letterboxed and stretched. When everyone went out in the backyard (family - 2-year-old party), I hung back and fixed the DVD player's settings to at least be 16:9, 480p. It was a glorious anamorphic picture and I felt great about my good deed.

Until I looked at all the DVDs. Everything, including the recent Red Eye, was FS. It made me sick. I then had to instruct her on what I did and why widescreen was generally a better fit. I thought all was well.

Went back for the 3rd birthday this year and I saw nothing has changed :(

PopcornTreeCt 08-16-07 02:15 PM

I don't understand why people wouldn't watch the show in HD just to get rid of those black bars on the sides.

taffer 08-16-07 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I don't understand why people wouldn't watch the show in HD just to get rid of those black bars on the sides.

I don't have HDTV, but I think most if not all HDTVs allow you to stretch the picture. This is probably what most joe six packs do to get rid of those "darn black bars."

Drexl 08-16-07 02:35 PM

It's not just individuals who stretch; I see it on monitors used in professionally-produced television shows. On Jim Rome is Burning, for example, they have widescreen sets in the studio for interviews but they show SD video stretched to fill them. I've seen it on CNN as well.

msdmoney 08-16-07 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by spainlinx0
My girlfriend is the same way. She'll be watching something on standard, and I tell her I'm just going to switch the HD feed, and she actually gets annoyed. She absolutely does not care that the HD looks better. She just wants to watch the show.

I find the same thing, my girlfriend doesn't care, but I can't imagine watching an SD station when we have the HD option.


Originally Posted by kakihara1
I understand why people aren't tossing their DVDs out the window in favor of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, replacing DVD collections with (available) HD counterparts is expensive. But what I don't understand is when people have these huge TVs and an SD and HD option of the exact same thing right in front of them, why they wouldn't just want the better picture? I have a huge DVD collection and I'm certainly not all about replacing all of them with HD right away but eventually they will be replaced for the better format.

I'm that way, not really in a huge rush to change from DVD to HD. While SD Tv often looks like pure shit on my HDTV, upscaled DVD's still look really good.

bunkaroo 08-16-07 05:27 PM

I gave up trying to educate people a long time ago. I enjoy my setup and have it exactly the way I want it. I don't care if anyone else is watching their with an incorrect setup.

Once in a while someone will ask me about HD or my setup, and then I'll take the opporunity to explain what I know. One of my bosses had me over to setup up their TV's and HD boxes properly, which I was glad to do.

But I no longer try to educate those who aren't asking to be educated. It's just annoying for all parties involved. :)

The Bus 08-16-07 05:31 PM

My parents bought an HDTV mostly because they wanted a flat panel. :lol:

PopcornTreeCt 08-16-07 05:45 PM

I had to explain to irate family members why there were still black bars when watching a 2.35:1 movie.

HD broadcasts are ridiculously better than standard ones. I can't even watch Rescue Me or any FX shows anymore.

I guess this thread just proves me that the only reason why DVDs became popular was because people didn't have to rewind anymore.

DVDKrayzie 08-16-07 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt

I guess this thread just proves me that the only reason why DVDs became popular was because people didn't have to rewind anymore.


while i think it's mostly true, if you posted that on avsforum, they would go apeshit lol.

paulringodaman 08-16-07 06:15 PM

this article tells me that most people dont care about HD

DodgingCars 08-16-07 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I guess this thread just proves me that the only reason why DVDs became popular was because people didn't have to rewind anymore.

For many, it had a lot more to do with convience/price than video/sound quality -- otherwise LD would have caught on 20 years earlier.

I think DVD was popular because it was cheaper (no rental pricing), convienient (skip chapter, no rewinding, etc), smaller (take up less space), and for some, the extras were cool.

Most people (including myself) originally had a DVD audio hooked up to the TV instead of a receiver for awhile. I don't think I got my receiver until I had already owned DVDs for about 3 years. I did enjoy the better video quality and the OARs though.

bunkaroo 08-16-07 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by DodgingCars
For many, it had a lot more to do with convience/price than video/sound quality -- otherwise LD would have caught on 20 years earlier.

I think DVD was popular because it was cheaper (no rental pricing), convienient (skip chapter, no rewinding, etc), smaller (take up less space), and for some, the extras were cool.

Most people (including myself) originally had a DVD audio hooked up to the TV instead of a receiver for awhile. I don't think I got my receiver until I had already owned DVDs for about 3 years. I did enjoy the better video quality and the OARs though.

It took me about 2 years to get a dedicated AVR that could do 5.1, and about 3 years to get my first 16:9 TV. But the primary reason I got into DVD was OAR. I was still buying widescreen VHS when possible up until getting into DVD.

Walker Boh 08-16-07 06:29 PM


new data from Home Media Research...
72% of respondents purchased at least 1 Blu-ray movie since acquiring a PS3
source: http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/news/?id=17153
So, only 40% of PS3 users know it can play Blu-ray, but 72% of the owners bought a Blu-ray movie. I think somebody's numbers might be off a bit.

RichC2 08-16-07 06:40 PM

The 72% is from "Those that responded", and likely a different group.

bunkaroo 08-16-07 06:45 PM

If they had kept on including a free Blu-Ray movie in the box, more people might have caught on.

Green Smurf 08-16-07 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by mrpayroll
So, it sounds like the women of the world are holding back the full implementation of HD Video? :mad:

Chris

:banned:

I own 10 HD DVD's and getting more soon. Also every TV in my house is HD.

I appreciate it.

Walker Boh 08-16-07 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by RichC2
The 72% is from "Those that responded", and likely a different group.

Both surveys were from "those that responded."
That was my original point on the first page ... I wish these survey companies would show how they came to their conclusions.

Sixty percent of the time, it works every time. :p

The Bus 08-16-07 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Green Smurf
:banned:

I own 10 HD DVD's and...

Way to bring down our average! :mad:

;)

Ocelot 08-16-07 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
At my neighbor's kid's birthday party a little over a year ago they were playing an Eagles DVD on their big, wide, EDTV (yes, ED). I noticed that it was showing 16:9 content letterboxed and stretched. When everyone went out in the backyard (family - 2-year-old party), I hung back and fixed the DVD player's settings to at least be 16:9, 480p. It was a glorious anamorphic picture and I felt great about my good deed.

Until I looked at all the DVDs. Everything, including the recent Red Eye, was FS. It made me sick. I then had to instruct her on what I did and why widescreen was generally a better fit. I thought all was well.

Went back for the 3rd birthday this year and I saw nothing has changed :(


i know how you feel :) Well, that's how some people do things... they got some cool stuffs, but don't really use them properly. When you point out or "fix" the setting for them, they go nuts on you like "why did you do that for?"

I guess it's fair to say in general that people don't care about HD... However, if you show them a video clip with their faces in it, they're going to care, b/c HD looks much much better... Actually, to the ladies, they like SD better, b/c HD makes them fat and old (base on REAL experience). Is this the reason why BD is not supporting porns?


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