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xmiyux 04-18-08 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Yup. You could use them to grab items surrounded by water, for instance.

I was wondering how i could get the items in the one dungeon where there is a small square of land surrounded by water. I was trying everything i had and couldn't puzzle out how to cross the water barrier.

PixyJunket 04-18-08 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by xmiyux
I was wondering how i could get the items in the one dungeon where there is a small square of land surrounded by water. I was trying everything i had and couldn't puzzle out how to cross the water barrier.

Well you could also use a Switching Staff on a flying monster (lure it to the island), you could use a BigRoom Scroll, you could eat the meat of a flying monster and revert once you're across, there's an armband that lets you walk on water, etc. One time I let one of the Tiger Uho monsters throw me into a monster that was stranded on the island.

In Mystery Dungeon, there's always a dozen ways to do everything. :lol:

fujishig 04-18-08 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
ahhhh I thought that the back was to stay in the current level. I guess I still find it odd that when you go down a stairwell you end up in a empty space instead of at a set of stairs you can go back.

They could've definitely explained it better (maybe with a better translation? I don't know). It's probably a staple of the series, but it's very confusing to newcomers. Of course, newcomers would probably also hate this game, so who knows?

Went to Target today to go preorder the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games and get the booklets... apparently, they're coming out so soon that they stopped the preorders, so they just gave me the books. That should be a bit easier than Shiren, right Pixy?

On a side note, since I picked up the 3rd Ace Phoenix game for 20 bucks, I finally went back to try and finish the first game. Almost there, too, but that's been consuming a bunch of my time.

xmiyux 04-18-08 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Well you could also use a Switching Staff on a flying monster (lure it to the island), you could use a BigRoom Scroll, you could eat the meat of a flying monster and revert once you're across, there's an armband that lets you walk on water, etc. One time I let one of the Tiger Uho monsters throw me into a monster that was stranded on the island.

In Mystery Dungeon, there's always a dozen ways to do everything. :lol:

I have yet to encounter a BigRoom scroll.

How do you get a monster to drop meat? I have only seen meat for sale once and had one quest where a guy asked me to get him meat and the creature auto-dropped it when i killed him.

Finally, i have a pickaxe that i have just had sitting in storage. What should i do with this thing?

I guess i get confused because in Nethack i can see all the commands at my disposal and in this game i feel a little lost. Of course it might help if i actually looked at the manual. :lol:

Baron Of Hell 04-18-08 05:13 PM

i have a staff that turns monster into to meat. I haven't come across a monster that drops meat.

PixyJunket 04-18-08 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by xmiyux
How do you get a monster to drop meat? I have only seen meat for sale once and had one quest where a guy asked me to get him meat and the creature auto-dropped it when i killed him.

Monsters don't drop meat naturally, you'll need a Bufu Staff (uncommon item in the Table Mountain quest) or a Bufu Cleaver (only available in the Kitchen God dungeon). The guy that asked you to get him Mamel Meat gave you a Bufu Staff and you probably used that to get it.

Also, there's really nothing in the manual or a command list that will help you much, for this game it's all about discovering what the item and monsters are capable of through experience.


Originally Posted by fujishig
Went to Target today to go preorder the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games and get the booklets... apparently, they're coming out so soon that they stopped the preorders, so they just gave me the books. That should be a bit easier than Shiren, right Pixy?

Yup, the Pokémon version is pretty easy it but also tends to be a little more boring and tedious because of that. All the cool items and tricks (and evil) and such from Shiren (and Torneko) are missing for a more straight-forward dungeon crawler that relies mostly on its franchise. Basically you'll rely on each Pokémon's abilities as opposed to the items you find (which tend to only be food and healing items). I've been going back to it from time to time after I need a break from Shiren's beatdowns and I could definitely see it as a more "entry-level" roguelike, even if all the cool stuff from roguelikes isn't particularly strong in it.

Trevor 04-20-08 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Trevor
Saw a game on clearance for $4.98 at Target, forget the title. Something about using natural events like tornados to destroy a map/town.....

Elements of Destruction

PixyJunket 04-21-08 07:58 AM

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3...nleroy2yb3.jpg

Another bonus dungeon cleared. Ranked #12. :)

Michael Corvin 04-21-08 08:07 AM

Late to the party but I finished Phantom Hourglass over the weekend. Fucking great game. Probably my favorite Zelda since Ocarina.

Never figured out what to do with the Guard Notebook nor did I do anything with the dude longing for a trist with a mermaid.

PixyJunket 04-21-08 10:36 AM

Here are some screenshots of Sigma Harmonics, a graphic adventure with RPG battles from Square-Enix.

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1214688_1407.html

The Bus 04-21-08 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
nor did I do anything with the dude longing for a trist with a mermaid.

That was my favorite side-quest.

xmiyux 04-21-08 06:41 PM

Pixy, how are you getting this equipment leveled up so high? A series of runs or are you getting it leveled up in one run?

PixyJunket 04-22-08 08:20 AM

Another action RPG for the DS is headed to the US!

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1211046_1407.html


AKSYS GAMES ANNOUNCES FROM THE ABYSS COMING TO NINTENDO DS IN Q4 2008!


An Epic Multiplayer Action RPG on the Go!

Torrance, CA (April 22, 2008) – Aksys Games, a publisher of interactive entertainment software, is pleased to announce From The Abyss, an action RPG exclusively for Nintendo DS™! Developed by Sonic Powered, players will be able to explore the vast world of Rubenhaut through a unique world creation engine exclusively created for From The Abyss. The game also features an intuitive control scheme, lavish artwork, and an engaging 2 player co-op battle system.

“From the Abyss can be enjoyed by people who are new to the action RPG genre but challenging enough for experienced players alike”, said Nobara Ogawa, Project Lead, Aksys Games. “Regardless of your skill level, you’ll find yourself enthralled in the abyss.”

Key Features:

• Create your own unique Abyss!
 Every time you start a brand new journey, the game will randomly generate a custom world that will give you a unique experience every time!

• Customize your character!
 Distribute your skill points that define your character’s powers and destiny. Will you go the way of the sword or be a powerful spell caster?

• Capture your enemy’s soul!
 Steal the enemy’s techniques and use them to turn the tide of the battle!

• Co-op Mode!
 Connect with a friend wirelessly and work together to defeat the Dark Lord of the Abyss!


From The Abyss has not been rated by the ESRB. More information about Aksys Games and From the Abyss can be found at www.aksysgames.com.

PixyJunket 04-22-08 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by xmiyux
Pixy, how are you getting this equipment leveled up so high? A series of runs or are you getting it leveled up in one run?

The real sad thing is that I have a backup Mastersword +60 and Armor Ward +55. :lol:

At first I would just bring +2 and +3 crap back to Mountaintop Town and use melding jars. When I started doing rescues I just kept the same Katana and Iron Shield and upgrading them as I went through blacksmiths and scrolls (plus melding jars, of course). The really clincher though, was finding a Strengthening Jar on a Final Puzzle rescue (I was looking for an Herb of Revival). Any sword, shield, staff or gitans you put in the jar increases in strength each floor you traverse. So putting a Katana and Cudgel in there quickly turned them into Katana +50 and Cudgel +30 after two deep Table Mountain rescues. NOW, since this jar is so awesome I don't want to break it, luckily there's a scroll that removes items from jars without breaking it. It's rare but it's a prime candidate for a Blank Scroll.

I'm trying to find a Dragonward Shield before I run through Tainted Path (floors 31 through 99 of Table Mountain) at the moment.

Of course, tomorrow will bring a (temporary) roadblock to my Shiren spelunking.

xmiyux 04-22-08 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
The real sad thing is that I have a backup Mastersword +60 and Armor Ward +55. :lol:

At first I would just bring +2 and +3 crap back to Mountaintop Town and use melding jars. When I started doing rescues I just kept the same Katana and Iron Shield and upgrading them as I went through blacksmiths and scrolls (plus melding jars, of course). The really clincher though, was finding a Strengthening Jar on a Final Puzzle rescue (I was looking for an Herb of Revival). Any sword, shield, staff or gitans you put in the jar increases in strength each floor you traverse. So putting a Katana and Cudgel in there quickly turned them into Katana +50 and Cudgel +30 after two deep Table Mountain rescues. NOW, since this jar is so awesome I don't want to break it, luckily there's a scroll that removes items from jars without breaking it. It's rare but it's a prime candidate for a Blank Scroll.

I'm trying to find a Dragonward Shield before I run through Tainted Path (floors 31 through 99 of Table Mountain) at the moment.

Of course, tomorrow will bring a (temporary) roadblock to my Shiren spelunking.

Where are you getting all this sweet equipment? I have made it as far as level 24 and have found nothing like this. Are they coming from the bonus dungeons? The puzzles?

PixyJunket 04-22-08 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by xmiyux
Where are you getting all this sweet equipment? I have made it as far as level 24 and have found nothing like this. Are they coming from the bonus dungeons? The puzzles?

Well most items can be found during the main Table Mountain dungeon. The Strengthening Jar was found in the Final Puzzle dungeon.

UncleGramps 04-22-08 09:47 AM

Should we maybe have a dedicated thread for Shiren? Just a thought. :)

xmiyux 04-22-08 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Should we maybe have a dedicated thread for Shiren? Just a thought. :)

:p

I swear, we got talking about Etrian and got kicked to another thread as well. :lol:

PixyJunket 04-22-08 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Should we maybe have a dedicated thread for Shiren? Just a thought. :)

It would have been more relevant when it came out but it was HIGHLY unexpected to see anybody other than myself getting into the game. If there are enough people still active on it I suppose I can make one and mange a Friend Code list to boot.

UncleGramps 04-22-08 09:57 AM

Sorry - I didn't want to be rude about it, but... all this roguelike talk is just way over my head, and there seemed to be enough discussion to warrant its own thread. That way you guys can talk about your insane Japanese games and I can stay in my comfort zone of stupid American crap. :lol:

Back on topic, anyone else enjoying the Ninja Gaiden DS game? I'm renting it and having a good time with it. The control system isn't perfect, but I'm glad they designed it with the DS's capabilities in mind.

I'm also playing My Word Coach and Mr. Driller, both of which I picked up on the cheap. My Word Coach is pretty good, but I wish they had more game types. Still, it's a pretty fun way to increase your vocabulary. As for Mr. Driller, the visuals are quite a surprise (in a bad way) after playing the 360 Arcade version, but the core gameplay is exactly the same and it's a great game to play on the go, which is why I picked this version over the Arcade version.

xmiyux 04-22-08 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
I'm also playing My Word Coach and Mr. Driller, both of which I picked up on the cheap. My Word Coach is pretty good, but I wish they had more game types. Still, it's a pretty fun way to increase your vocabulary. As for Mr. Driller, the visuals are quite a surprise (in a bad way) after playing the 360 Arcade version, but the core gameplay is exactly the same and it's a great game to play on the go, which is why I picked this version over the Arcade version.

I really enjoy My Word Coach as well.

My one complaint is it makes you play several different gametypes in one day to get your daily points and many of the gametypes just kind of suck. It does amuse me though to play the game and just destroy it. Makes me feel like my liberal arts degree is doing me some good. :lol:

PixyJunket 04-22-08 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Sorry - I didn't want to be rude about it, but... all this roguelike talk is just way over my head, and there seemed to be enough discussion to warrant its own thread. That way you guys can talk about your insane Japanese games and I can stay in my comfort zone of stupid American crap. :lol:

Rogue and its derivatives are American, Shiren is just a Japanese version of it.


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Back on topic, anyone else enjoying the Ninja Gaiden DS game? I'm renting it and having a good time with it. The control system isn't perfect, but I'm glad they designed it with the DS's capabilities in mind.

Bought it, haven't started it yet, thanks to Shiren. :lol:

UncleGramps 04-22-08 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Rogue and its derivatives are American, Shiren is just a Japanese version of it.

Interesting, I didn't realize that. To be honest I was just poking a little fun at you. :) For the record, I have nothing against those games - they're just a bit too complex for my tastes. My only complaint here is that it was difficult to scan through the thread with all the Shiren posts. I probably should've said something earlier, but I figured it might just peter out on its own. Anyway, just my two cents.


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