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Originally Posted by Draven
Just as mall CD stores have mostly gone by the wayside, the mall-based videogame store is soon to follow. There used to be no less than 4 game stores at the Mall of America, now there is only 1. I'm looking forward to the day when they close their doors for good. Good for you for sticking out, but better for you that you are moving on.
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Gamestores will go away when /if future generations go to downloaded games.
No used games=no profits for them. Otherwise they make so much money of sucker trading in games for shit that they turn around and sell for huge profits that they can stay in business indefinitely. |
Lets not forget the improper use of Kronos caused the death of a GameStop employee here in San Antonio. They dealt with it simply by closing the store and forcing the remaining employees to either transfer or be laid off. Nice company.
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Originally Posted by darkside
Lets not forget the improper use of Kronos caused the death of a GameStop employee here in San Antonio. They dealt with it simply by closing the store and forcing the remaining employees to either transfer or be laid off. Nice company.
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Originally Posted by darkside
I have really noticed a difference. The guys at EB Games would do some cross selling, but they were cool about it and once they knew you they would leave you alone.
That has changed under the GameStop banner. I was there today to check out the new sale and was badgered non stop. They literally would not stop trying to cross sell me on preorders. I was trying to look through the sale area and the guy never would shut up. I told him twice I had no interest in preordering anything right now politely, but that did not stop him from trying. When I finally went to check out he shoved some preorder book in my face to look through. I finally had to ask him what the fuck was the matter with him. Was it just his hearing or was he retarded. I ended up being a dick, but my patience has limits. |
Originally Posted by Duran
So why buy from them? How much abuse do you take before you walk out?
As far as the lawsuit, I have heard nothing about it but you can bet there will be at least a settlement on it. |
Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Sorry dude, but your gonna quit every job you have for the rst of your life if those things are dealbreakers.
BTW...they use Kronos in thousands of places |
Damnit, I thought GS was going out of business, based on the title :)
But anyway, best of luck! I though Walmart was bad, in terms of stupid descions/policies, but not as bad as GS |
I'd still never work at Wal-Mart, but yeah, GS ain't so hot right now.
I didn't realize the manager getting killed was due to Kronos. No one in the company bothered to mention that to us. |
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Since you guys want to know, there have been several recent changes that made me feel the executives have stopped listening to us. The first was the introduction of a scheduling program known as Kronos. The program was meant to make scheduling more efficient and save money for the company, while also giving stores the hours they need to staff correctly. It would take each store and spit out a pre-made schedule for them each week. To put it simply, these schedules were beyond awful. They'd have the first employee of the day coming in after the store was meant to open. They'd have the last employee leave several hours after closing time. They'd schedule only one person to work for an entire day, or two people to work the exact same shifts, leaving no one to close. And so on. Then came the edict that we had to follow these schedules to the letter. Any problems that made the schedule break labor laws would be changed, as well as problems like the opener coming in after opening. But that was it. And they've been checking for schedule compliance. The regional manager himself has come to stores just to see if their schedules are set to the original Kronos. It's a waste of time and money, and puts employees in awkward situations. A sole example would be to have someone close by themselves. I think this is a security issue and a loss prevention issue, as what is to stop them from stealing if they're all alone at closing time?
The next problem became the intense focus on reservations and Game Informer subscriptions. These have been a focus of the company since the merge, but it's now becoming outrageous. Managers are getting fired if they can't make weekly quotas, regardless of how well the store is doing in other areas. This has led to a major increase in reservation and subscription fraud, which helps no one and can sometimes hurt customers (if, for example, an employee cancels a reservation with a lot of money on it and splits it into several smaller reservations under another name). Stores with low numbers are required to call their performance numbers into their district managers every hour of every day, severely restricting our ability to actually do business or care about anything outside of numbers, which leads to more badgering of customers. The final thing is that the company no longer cares about anything that cannot be quantified. They do customer service surveys where the only answer that they actually record is "Would you recommend Gamestop to your friends?" They rank the managers on practically everything you can think of, and if your ranking dips in a single area, they tell you to work on nothing but that area. When you do that, another area is bound to drop, so it's a never-ending cycle of pointlessness. And everything seems to be of the same high priority. Just today we got an email from our regional manager saying our subscription numbers were so low that we shouldn't even focus on reservations, which is one of the two core focuses of our company. It's positively schizophrenic. And this is just off the top of my head. |
Again, my point is that for a long time EB was not like that.
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I undersstand where you are coming from. I used to work for Gaemplay in Leeds, England a number of years ago. When i started working there the policies in place and the service to the public was top notch. Any problems or issues were dealt with quickly and efficiently and the customer was always looked after. Shortly before i left new people came in to run the company and they basically fucked everything over. Changed all the policies, changed pricing and generally ruined a great company. After i left i kept in touch with people that worked there and there followed a lot of redundancies and the comapny just went downhill. Its still going, but its a former shadow of what it was.
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Originally Posted by darkside
The B2G1F sales and the current sale they had was enough to get me to put up with them, but they have pretty much lost my business for regular buying. I would also mention that they weren't always this bad. It has only been the last couple of months that they became unbearable in their cross selling.
As far as the lawsuit, I have heard nothing about it but you can bet there will be at least a settlement on it. I think I'm going to buy one of Steve Pierski's "GeStopo: I Want To Reserve NOTHING!" shirts. btw darkside, what's the current sale? Oh... and congrats on the new job Suprmallet! |
Out of every time I've ever been to a Gamestop or an EB, I've never been bothered once to reserve any games. The worst I've had is getting asked to buy a subscription to Game Informer.
Still, I always try to avoid these places as much as possible. I'd rather buy my new games at Best Buy, and I almost never buy used games. The only time I go to a place like GS or EB is when my girlfriend is clothes shopping and I need to kill some time. |
Originally Posted by darkside
The B2G1F sales and the current sale they had was enough to get me to put up with them, but they have pretty much lost my business for regular buying. I would also mention that they weren't always this bad. It has only been the last couple of months that they became unbearable in their cross selling.
As far as the lawsuit, I have heard nothing about it but you can bet there will be at least a settlement on it. It was worth dealing with an attempted upsell today, to pick up 13 PSP UMD films for only $4.99 a pop...I love my PSP, so I am so happy to see UMD prices drop like a stone. |
Good luck with your new job.
BTW i think the merger between ebgames and gamestop was stupid. Both stores is cool tho. |
Originally Posted by Goldberg74
btw darkside, what's the current sale? http://www.ebgames.com/gs/gamedays/ The reason I went in was for the 2GB Sandisk SD card for $20. I also grabbed a couple of $10 games. As mentioned above the PSP movies are a steal if you like any of the titles and of course if you have a PSP. |
I picked up Dragon Quest 8 new for 16 bucks including tax, and I didn't get asked about any preorders. I have to say I can't remember ever getting bothered about preorders or magazines or anything when I went in there. Maybe I don't give off too friendly a vibe.
It's weird because the mall I went to (Woodbridge Mall) has 2 Ebgames and a Gamestop, and it's not that big. |
Maybe it has been answered before but,
why open the new games just to put the game in a sleeve and keep the case behind the counter anyways? Does it serve a purpose other than allowing an employee to take it home for the night? |
Originally Posted by jonw9
Does it serve a purpose other than allowing an employee to take it home for the night?
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I don't bother anymore with Gamestop/EB, except to cruise in there once in a while while mall walking (with a toddler in tow suddenly we love the mall, whereas before I could probably go about half a year without stepping foot in there).
I buy used games at wherehouse.com now or my local mom n pop store run by a friendly old guy who will talk your ear off and has been doing games probably since the pre-Atari era. He's currently got a Vectrix in the store :D |
Originally Posted by MovieExchange
Trust me, you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't work at Game Stop / EB, but over the years I've become friends with many managers and employees at the locations in my area and I hear about all the bullshit that goes on in that company. I can tell you that Suprmallet has just scratched the surface about how screwed-up and ass-backwards this company is. He hasn't even gotten to the inventory issues, where if your inventory comes up bad 2 times in a row the entire goddamn management staff is fired. It doesn't matter if they're the best management team in the district, it doesn't matter if they're not getting any support from Game Stop, it doesn't matter if Game Stop makes them lay the store out so that it's simple for thieves to steal, it doesn't matter if the fucked-up Kronos system only has one employee working which makes it easy for one person to distract the employee while a friend does the stealing... they're fired.
And it's a vicious circle on the hours / loss prevention front. A store with low sales gets lower hours to distribute, meaning only one employee on duty a lot of the time. One employee on duty means it's easier for a pair of thieves to distract the guy and steal. Since the store has low sales to begin with, they're not accorded a large margin of error on their inventory, so the thefts end up putting the store on impact. Corporate points to their little magnetic peg locker devices as a way of stopping theft... what bullshit. Within a week of them being installled at the stores around here the thieves were bringing in their own magnet to pop them off or just taking a knife and cutting the item off the peg to steal it. |
Originally Posted by jonw9
Maybe it has been answered before but,
why open the new games just to put the game in a sleeve and keep the case behind the counter anyways? Does it serve a purpose other than allowing an employee to take it home for the night? |
Originally Posted by jonw9
why open the new games just to put the game in a sleeve and keep the case behind the counter anyways? Does it serve a purpose other than allowing an employee to take it home for the night? |
I stopped buying new games there as soon as they started that gutting crap.
It ridiculous. I never browse new games anyway as I go to the store specifically looking for them. Since you have to get them at the register I just go up and ask if they have whatever I wanted. But with the gutting crap I quit bothering with them other than occasionally browsing used games. I haven't even done that since November as the preorder, do you have any trades, game informer, warranties etc. etc. being pushed all the time is just too annoying. |
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