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UncleGramps 11-15-06 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
email me.

YGM :)

The Valeyard 11-15-06 04:47 PM

Don't know if this is old news but:


New Debacle for Sony

In the latest embarrassment to strike Sony Corp., the company acknowledged today (Wednesday) that many games designed for the original PlayStation and PlayStation 2 consoles are not compatible with PlayStation 3. News of the problem follows the rash of bad publicity over production delays involving the device, consumer hesitancy over the company's Blu-ray high-definition DVD devices, and especially a recall of laptop batteries that the company had manufactured. Sony had been hoping that the hugely hyped Casino Royale, due out this weekend, would produce revenue to offset the earlier ordeals. Sony managers were in London Tuesday to demonstrate how they planned to integrate the marketing of their products with the new film. Later in the day they attended the premiere of the movie at the Odeon Leicester Square theater -- along with Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip.

Setzer 11-15-06 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Aw mang. You may remember my earlier post about attending the PS3 preview event in NYC 2 weeks ago. This afternoon I got another email from Sony, saying that the first 50 people to respond would be invited to attend tomorrow's NYC launch party and be able to buy a PS3 at midnight. I didn't see the email until about 30 minutes after they sent it, but I replied anyway, even though I don't even really want a PS3. Well, I just got the response, and I'm in. :eek:

Now, the moral dilemma...like I said, I don't want a PS3. My first instinct is to eBay it. Pros: it could cover the entire cost of my Wii launch purchase (system + games + extra controllers). Cons: it's kind of skeevy. I could just keep the PS3. Pros: fun. Cons: 600 freakin' dollars.

I'm leaning towards eBay. Don't kill me!

Even though it would be nice to see L&O get one, I would still ebay it if I were you. If some idiot out there wants to pay $1500-2000 for one then take advantage of it. Just think, with the extra cash it would pay for your Wii, a bunch of games and extra controllers and you'd still have money left over.

Liver&Onions 11-15-06 04:50 PM

I hate you Setzer. ;-) Guess no one here wants to see PS3 reviews :(

Setzer 11-15-06 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by The Valeyard
Don't know if this is old news but:

I think this is going to eventually get fixed via a firmware update but even if they don't, it's only a couple hundred titles. The PS3's backward compatibility is still 100x better than that of the 360's.

UncleGramps 11-15-06 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Setzer
Even though it would be nice to see L&O get one, I would still ebay it if I were you. If some idiot out there wants to pay $1500-2000 for one then take advantage of it. Just think, with the extra cash it would pay for your Wii, a bunch of games and extra controllers and you'd still have money left over.

Believe me, it's tempting. But there's something to be said for helping out a fellow gamer in need. It's not an easy decision, I'll say that.

Setzer 11-15-06 05:05 PM

Tell you what L&O, if I get my hands on another PS3, you can have it. I'll only charge you what I paid for it + shipping. I live in a pretty rural area and I know my Wal-Mart is going to get some, so I plan on going there tomorrow night and see if I can snag one.

Supermallet 11-15-06 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Setzer
I think this is going to eventually get fixed via a firmware update but even if they don't, it's only a couple hundred titles. The PS3's backward compatibility is still 100x better than that of the 360's.

Yes, but it's also $200 less. Although I agree the BC on the 360 is useless for anything other than Halo.

Liver&Onions 11-15-06 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Setzer
Tell you what L&O, if I get my hands on another PS3, you can have it. I'll only charge you what I paid for it + shipping. I live in a pretty rural area and I know my Wal-Mart is going to get some, so I plan on going there tomorrow night and see if I can snag one.

That would rock - not to mention, you're just up the street from me (based on your IP that is... :) Rock hardcore.

UncleGramps 11-15-06 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
That would rock - not to mention, you're just up the street from me (based on your IP that is... :) Rock hardcore.

Thanks Setzer! :up:

I won't list my auction on eBay until I hear how Setzer fares. That way you've got a backup just in case.

Supermallet 11-15-06 05:22 PM

Group hug, everyone! :grouphug:

Setzer 11-15-06 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Yes, but it's also $200 less. Although I agree the BC on the 360 is useless for anything other than Halo.

The 360 is $200 less because it doesn't have an HD-DVD/BR drive built in. If I go out and get a 360 I'm going to spend $400 for the console + $200 for the HD-DVD add-on -- so that's $600. Even then I still don't have HDMI and I have a hard drive with 40gb less space. For what I'm going to use the PS3 for, it's the better deal.

kgrogers1979 11-15-06 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Although I agree the BC on the 360 is useless for anything other than Halo.

I disagree. Sure there are a lot of good Xbox games not on the BC list yet, but there are a lot of good games other than Halo that are on the list. Ninja Gaiden, The Tom Clancy games, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Doom 3, Black, and PoP:SoT for starters. BC is not useless for anything other than Halo.



Originally Posted by Setzer
The 360 is $200 less because it doesn't have an HD-DVD/BR drive built in. If I go out and get a 360 I'm going to spend $400 for the console + $200 for the HD-DVD add-on -- so that's $600. Even then I still don't have HDMI and I have a hard drive with 40gb less space. For what I'm going to use the PS3 for, it's the better deal.

Oh great here we go with this fanboy war again. :hairpull:

Brent L 11-15-06 06:21 PM

There is already a line of about 10-15 people at my local Walmart. They are being forced to wait outside, in the rain. The store is only getting ten of the systems, a combination of both versisons, and the only people who will be allowed a chace at one of them are those who are sitting in one of the chairs that Walmart has outside.

Setzer 11-15-06 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
Oh great here we go with this fanboy war again. :hairpull:

Not a war, just simply stating the reason why I'll be buying a PS3 over a 360. I currently don't have a Hi-def video player and would like to get one. Stand alone players run $1000 or more for Blue Ray and $500 or more for HD-DVD. If I go 360 or PS3 I'm going spend $600 and it seems to me you get more for your $600 with a PS3 than you do a 360. People who are just looking to buy a console just for gaming and aren't all that concerned with HD can save the $200 and get a 360 or just get a Wii, if they want. Obviously the 360 has much better selection of games right now and the PS3's selection is slim but I don't think that's going to be a problem in the future.

MovieExchange 11-15-06 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
The other store said that they have enough to fill their pre-orders, but they didn't give me any specific information.

That should mean that 2 employees pre-ordered and are giving their systems up in order to fill all the customer's pre-orders. That's how it's working at my local EB, the 2 employees that pre-ordered gave theirs up and everyone else is getting one.

Josh H 11-15-06 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
I hate you Setzer. ;-) Guess no one here wants to see PS3 reviews :(


Weren't you planning on ebaying your preorder that got canceled?

Son_Of_Zod 11-15-06 08:10 PM

Apparently Best Buy corporate told all the stores not to let people line up until 24 hours before the launch. Two stores in LA are doing midnight sales meaning that people should only be able to line up at midnight tonight. One of them told me they already had a line of 50 people, and didn't care about the message corporate had given them. The other store last night told me they were following protocall.... until when I called them earlier today and they told me people lined up anyway last night, and the managers decided that would be the line and they also had a line of more than 50 people. ARGH!!! So, I called one of the Best Buys near by that I had heard would be getting more than most stores and they claim they are following protocall and not letting people line up until 8am tomorrow. I'm going to go over there tonight around closing just to make sure there isn't an "unofficial line", and may even sleep in my car there to make sure I get a good spot in the morning. It may seem sad, but as I didn't have work this week anyways I have nothing better to do.

Son_Of_Zod 11-15-06 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Yes, but it's also $200 less. Although I agree the BC on the 360 is useless for anything other than Halo.

Except that if you want to play HD-DVDs on the 360 you have to shell out another 200 bucks, while you can watch BluRay dvds on the PS3 right out of the box. It evens out.

GreenMonkey 11-15-06 08:14 PM

You guys catch wind of the 720p/1080i problem?

Apparently the PS3 doesn't have hardware scaling built in. If you're one of those folks with one of those HDTVs that doesn't accept 720p, apparently you're stuck with 480p for 720p games. It won't internally upscale 720p to 1080i/p like the 360.

Just an FYI. I know a lot of early CRT HDTVs and some plasmas wouldn't accept 720p, and a handful of others.

Fandango 11-15-06 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by UncleGramps
Aw mang. You may remember my earlier post about attending the PS3 preview event in NYC 2 weeks ago. This afternoon I got another email from Sony, saying that the first 50 people to respond would be invited to attend tomorrow's NYC launch party and be able to buy a PS3 at midnight. I didn't see the email until about 30 minutes after they sent it, but I replied anyway, even though I don't even really want a PS3. Well, I just got the response, and I'm in. :eek:

Now, the moral dilemma...like I said, I don't want a PS3. My first instinct is to eBay it. Pros: it could cover the entire cost of my Wii launch purchase (system + games + extra controllers). Cons: it's kind of skeevy. I could just keep the PS3. Pros: fun. Cons: 600 freakin' dollars.

I'm leaning towards eBay. Don't kill me!


If its the one I think you are talking about at the Sonystyle store there are about 300 people lined up right now, probably more. I doubt you will be able to stroll in at midnight and purchase one.

Michael Corvin 11-15-06 08:41 PM

I just got "the call." Well it was on the answering machine. I was 8th on the list at Gamestop and apparently I'm now 4th on the next shipment. That means they are only getting 4? Wow.

CF

Supermallet 11-15-06 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
You guys catch wind of the 720p/1080i problem?

Apparently the PS3 doesn't have hardware scaling built in. If you're one of those folks with one of those HDTVs that doesn't accept 720p, apparently you're stuck with 480p for 720p games. It won't internally upscale 720p to 1080i/p like the 360.

Just an FYI. I know a lot of early CRT HDTVs and some plasmas wouldn't accept 720p, and a handful of others.

Oh that's hilarious. I know my TV doesn't have 720p. So you get your system, and it doesn't come with any HD cables. So you go buy an HDMI cable for $60 (because I doubt most people buying a PS3 know about monoprice.com), and you get it home, and it still only does 480p. Priceless.

Binger 11-15-06 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Oh that's hilarious. I know my TV doesn't have 720p. So you get your system, and it doesn't come with any HD cables. So you go buy an HDMI cable for $60 (because I doubt most people buying a PS3 know about monoprice.com), and you get it home, and it still only does 480p. Priceless.


Yeah, that's a real fuck up which is suprising seeing as how well Sony has handled the PS3 so far. It's just one thing after the next, after the next with the these guys. Even though I have a brand new SXRD that accepts 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i, I think that the PS3 that I'm picking up Friday is going on ebay. I hate to do it, but this thing is just one bad piece of news after the next and I really hate to see what the next bomb is going to be.

Match 11-15-06 09:00 PM

Here's the link:
PS3 Downscales 720p on Incapable TVs
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/7462...0&RSSid=746282


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