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Slowpc 07-15-06 04:01 PM

Also , now you run into the resolution problem that the movies from the memory stick are of lower resolution than UMD's so the picture will suffer.

Now the dvd quality format they push will be a bit lower now that it is on memory stick (and the quality is still not that bad... but .. still)

BeanDip0001 07-15-06 06:49 PM

Sony just needs to understand that they suck as of right now. And I’m talking as a whole, psp, blue ray, ps3 etc. This movie thing is just another way to draw people in when they see a new product on the shelf and have no idea and are going "oh movies. I like movies. I'll try this thing out." They had their time in the lime light it’s over. Nintendo makes a better hand held product the DS and Microsoft makes a better console the 360.

Sony has always had problems with trying to push their crappy media formats on people, I mean look at mini disc.

I mean the design team and the people in charge there should take the honorable way out for a Japanese company. A self inflicted dagger wound to the stomach to die a slow and painful honorable death.

Mike Long 07-15-06 07:03 PM

Everyone be on the lookout for those discounted UMDs and keep us posted.

Mr. Cinema 07-15-06 08:06 PM

Wow, I guess people didn't really want to watch movies on a 4 inch screen.

lordwow 07-15-06 09:28 PM

UMDs were a dumb idea.

Selling $100 memory sticks with a movie on it is an really dumb idea.

What will they think of next? A $600 console?

dvd-fanman 07-15-06 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by lordwow
UMDs were a dumb idea.

Selling $100 memory sticks with a movie on it is an really dumb idea.

What will they think of next? A $600 console?

LOL Of course :)

mrmagoo 07-15-06 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Long
Everyone be on the lookout for those discounted UMDs and keep us posted.




Mike I hope your being serious, and not funny or else my post is going to look idiotic, but I actually like these things and when I see the price go way down (where they should have priced them to begin with) I will DEFINATLY be snagging them up, I already own quite a few.....

young 07-16-06 02:04 AM

heh, don't see why people get all worked up over a format whether a success or not. i have a few umd movies b/c i'm too lazy to transfer movies to a memory stick. other than that, no skin off of my nose if umd movies fail. (i hope umd games get better and more prevalent though). i, too, will be looking out for cheap umd movies :D

here's a doom and gloom article i found about dvd while looking for past format wars... :P
http://www.robertsdvd.com/failure.html

Fincher Fan 07-16-06 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by young
here's a doom and gloom article i found about dvd while looking for past format wars... :P
http://www.robertsdvd.com/failure.html

"DVD is just a bad idea. It is being forced upon a uncaring and unwanted public and is an inferior product that simply isn't needed or desired."

rotfl

Mike Long 07-16-06 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by mrmagoo
Mike I hope your being serious, and not funny or else my post is going to look idiotic, but I actually like these things and when I see the price go way down (where they should have priced them to begin with) I will DEFINATLY be snagging them up, I already own quite a few.....

I'm definitely being serious. I have a small collection and as noted above, they are great for the kids.

darkside 07-16-06 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by mrmagoo
Mike I hope your being serious, and not funny or else my post is going to look idiotic, but I actually like these things and when I see the price go way down (where they should have priced them to begin with) I will DEFINATLY be snagging them up, I already own quite a few.....

I have a small collection of them as well. If I can find any on clearance or cheap to buy used I will get them as well.

daddydaryl 07-16-06 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by young
heh, don't see why people get all worked up over a format whether a success or not. i have a few umd movies b/c i'm too lazy to transfer movies to a memory stick. other than that, no skin off of my nose if umd movies fail. (i hope umd games get better and more prevalent though). i, too, will be looking out for cheap umd movies :D

here's a doom and gloom article i found about dvd while looking for past format wars... :P
http://www.robertsdvd.com/failure.html


I love this line: "DVD is just barely capable of LD quality resolution"

LivingINClip 07-18-06 10:27 AM

I for one always thought UMD was a stupid idea.

$20 bucks for a lower resolution DVD, without extra features on a four inch screen. I just can't see the point in forking over the cash for any single UMD.

Draven 07-18-06 11:07 AM

I gotta go dig up some old PSP threads - I swear there were people talking about how great UMDs were...

mmconhea 07-18-06 11:32 AM

I still don't get the thread title.

Draven 07-18-06 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by mmconhea
I still don't get the thread title.

They are ditching the UMD format for this extremely convoluted Memory Stick plue Locked DVD movie delivery system.

Seems overly complicated to me.

DJ_Longfellow 07-18-06 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Draven
I gotta go dig up some old PSP threads - I swear there were people talking about how great UMDs were...

Yep, some people really loved them. I always thought they were WAY overpriced. Nice idea if they could execute at a good price-point. I paid $4 for one once, and that was about the most I would pay. I can convert DVD's just as easy. UMD's have a little better quality and you don't have to load up your Memory Stick.

Centurion 07-18-06 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Draven
I gotta go dig up some old PSP threads - I swear there were people talking about how great UMDs were...

That would be cool!
Let's see who they are. LOL!

Outlaw 07-19-06 08:12 PM

uh oh, I remember when that ancient DS thread got bumped, it was funny, I probably said some really stupid things, I'm nervous now :).

rfduncan 07-20-06 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by DRG

Originally Posted by Centurion
Almost everyone sounds so surprised. Why? This is typical Sony business practice. They always try to come up with their own proprietary storage medium. Let's take a look:

Betamax.....R.I.P.
SACD.........if not already, will soon R.I.P.
UMD..........R.I.P.
BluRay.......??? (though company track record suggests the way of the dodo)

You forgot MiniDisc.

DING! DING! DING! Which is exactly why I ain't touching either High Definition DVD format until that all boils out (a battle in which I suspect Sony will again be the loser). I don't expect the release of the PS3 to push the envelope for BluRay market share either.

Why did the call it Universal Media Disc? It was anything BUT "universal".

Draven 07-20-06 01:13 PM

Here's a good blast from the past - some of the posters don't seem to have a problem with the UMD format. It's funny to read the comments about the price (I'm including myself in that - they really did surprise me on the price.)

Anyway, here's PSP specs!

Michael Corvin 07-20-06 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Centurion
Almost everyone sounds so surprised. Why? This is typical Sony business practice. They always try to come up with their own proprietary storage medium. Let's take a look:

Betamax.....R.I.P.
SACD.........if not already, will soon R.I.P.
UMD..........R.I.P.
BluRay.......??? (though company track record suggests the way of the dodo)

Along with DRG mentioning the MiniDisc, I'll add Divx. Weren't they big supporters/innovators of that format as well?

Drexl 07-20-06 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Along with DRG mentioning the MiniDisc, I'll add Divx. Weren't they big supporters/innovators of that format as well?

Actually, no. Columbia Tri-Star were early supporters of DVD along with Warner and Polygram.

You could add ATRAC, their proprietary audio compression that never became as popular as MP3 or even AAC.

PixyJunket 07-20-06 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Drexl
You could add ATRAC, their proprietary audio compression that never became as popular as MP3 or even AAC.

Oh yeah, I remember when they were touting the PSP as an iPod killer and it was going to be ATRAC only (am I remembering that right?).

Draven 07-20-06 03:49 PM

Yeah, I remember ATRAC being thrown around as a PSP thing. The only reason I remember that is because that was the first I'd heard of the format.

tonyc3742 07-20-06 03:51 PM

How is that pronounced? I mentally pronounce it "ay-track" which of course doesn't help instill confidence in the product ;)

I may have said this earlier, and maybe I'm the wrong demographic, but UMD disks always struck me as silly/stupid. Charge five bucks more and pack it in with the real dvd; or sell them for less than, say, 8 bucks, and I *might* consider it. But I don't want to pay *more*, to get *less*, and only be able to play it on one small, portable device, that isn't extremely widespread so my chance of recouping any costs by reselling it are slim. Then again, I have a widescreen bigscreen HDTV and a 7.1 surround system, so going portable to watch a movie seems silly in itself.

darkside 07-20-06 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Oh yeah, I remember when they were touting the PSP as an iPod killer and it was going to be ATRAC only (am I remembering that right?).

I think Sony had learned their lesson about Atrac only devices by the time of the PSP. Atrac goes pretty much hand in hand with the failure of minidisc, but it also killed all of their early attempts at creating MP3 players anyone would actually want to buy.

BTW, I decided today that I may be ready to take the plunge on an Xbox360 and my PSP has been sold. I liked the PSP overall as a small multimedia device and it still has a ton of potential, but I was really having some headaches with some of the conversion software available and decided I would just let it go. I will miss it, but rarely ever used it for gaming other than MLB06 which I can get for the PS2 so keeping it just seemed silly. I'm selling it now while I can still get a good return on it.

Doeman 07-20-06 08:46 PM

Hey, I still love my PSP and I love all my UMD movies. While waiting for my wife today I watched Animal House on my PSP, it sure as hell was better carrying my PSP with Animal House than lugging my portable dvd player! I love UMD's!

rfduncan 07-21-06 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Doeman
Hey, I still love my PSP and I love all my UMD movies. While waiting for my wife today I watched Animal House on my PSP, it sure as hell was better carrying my PSP with Animal House than lugging my portable dvd player! I love UMD's!

-ohbfrank-

The DS Lite has a similar add-on that has a 4GB drive. No way I'm biting.

Doeman 07-24-06 10:05 AM

Last night I watched Devil's Rejects on UMD, it was awesome! I love my UMD movies and I just bought Evil Dead 1 & 2, so I am now reaching 50 of them, and I hope I make it to 100!

Giantrobo 07-24-06 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Doeman
Last night I watched Devil's Rejects on UMD, it was awesome! I love my UMD movies and I just bought Evil Dead 1 & 2, so I am now reaching 50 of them, and I hope I make it to 100!


Check the bargain/clearance bins....

Doeman 07-24-06 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Check the bargain/clearance bins....

Sure if I can find stores that still carry them! FYE seems to be the only one in this area..

Centurion 07-24-06 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Doeman
Sure if I can find stores that still carry them! FYE seems to be the only one in this area..

Target use to carry a bunch. I wonder if they just returned them all to the manufacturers.

Doeman 07-26-06 05:31 AM

Yes Target does not carry them anymore. Best Buy still has them and I notice Benchwarmers on UMD there yesterday so they are still putting out new released on UMD...YES!

Mike Long 08-07-06 12:07 AM

Bump...any discount UMD sightings yet?

dvdlover631 08-07-06 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Long
Bump...any discount UMD sightings yet?

Yes, the local FYE has quite a few of them marked down to $9.99, some of them were over $20 in the past. I will buy them for $10 each no problem!

eatntae 08-09-06 12:56 PM

Got this email from DDD today. Buy one UMD get one free.

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/promo...e=pspb2g1_0806

DRG 08-09-06 01:16 PM

I picked up Goonies and Happy Potter & the Sorcerer's Stone for about 10 bucks apiece at FYE last week. Unfortunately they only had a few titles marked so low.

gcribbs 08-10-06 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by eatntae
Got this email from DDD today. Buy one UMD get one free.

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/promo...e=pspb2g1_0806


Picked up 10 umd's using this deal. No tax makes it even better.

Mike Long 08-14-06 03:08 PM

Finally made it to FYE today. Picked up:

HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE (Not marked on sale, but rang up at $9.99)
CLERKS (Marked $9.99, but rang up at regular price. The guy hesitated, but gave me the discount.
ROBOTS (Marked $14.99, rang up at $14.99 -- I know that's not a huge bargain, but the kids have been asking for that one)

I also saw ROMEO MUST DIE, RUSH HOUR, RUSH HOUR 2, and SWORDFISH marked at $9.99. (These are all Warner or New Line titles...hmmm...)

Please post any more bargains!


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