I had purple because black was just so mundane. I had wanted though a pink one to match the cool milky pink GBA i had from Japan. But alas - they didn't offer one.

:lol: Okay... even though its a running, inside joke in the clan. Posting things like this does not help to distance you from the "princess" type comments. ;)

BTW, Japan always gets the cool stuff. But that is probably because Nintendo and Sony are Japanese companies. I think the XBox had some unique things in Japan as well to try and help it to see there, but we didn't see any of that.

Yeah i'm well aware of deserving the comments. What happened was when the GBA was released in Japan before the US i had a friend living in Japan. As a gift he sent me one early - and to be a bastard he made it pink as a stinger. He told me at the time his only regret was not being able to find me a Hello Kitty one just to harass me. Well when the Cube came out my OCD nature wnated everything to match. Which was the whole point i think of the cruel gift i was given. :lol:

I'm confident enough in my prin... manhood to rock the pink though ;)

Weren't the Resident Evil games before 4 all supposed to be complete remakes? They did the first one like that, but when it didn't sell enough, the following games were just ported as is?

Just tell them it's your wives. ;) You get the 360, she has the gameboy.. But you like to play it now and then. rotfl

Excellent point.

Nobody had mentioned backward compatibility yet either. PS1 sold 200 million...so maybe Nintendo lost THIS generation during the LAST generation.

That is a good point as well.. Backwards compatibility does hurt. PS2 being able to play every PS1 game only added to Sony's success.

The 360 has limited BC and it has hurt it. GameCube not being able to play any older Nintendo games probably didn't help it either.

An error I think they're more than rectifying with the Wii.

rotfl

DO YA THINK?!?!?!

:drool:

I would of surely bought a proper Pokemon RPG on the 'Cube. There were a couple of Pokemon games, but even Gale of Darkness was just a sequel to Colleseum and not the GC version of the Gameboy RPG I'd hoped for :(
I'll admit I havent finished many of the 'Cube games I have, but most I have got lots of fun out of and/or are replaying - the superb Paper Mario: TTYD, Soul Calibur 2, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 are all great, fun games :) I should finish Mario Sunshine as well!

I'll go for lack of appeal to casual gamers.

My brief critique (I own all 3 systems):
Mario Sunshine was generic
Zelda: Wind Waker took a lot of crap for its beautiful visual style (Tho I didn't like it based on the fact that I wasn't entertained while playing it.)
Double Dash offered very little new
Metroid Prime: Echoes managed to hurt my opinion of Metroid Prime (Which is arguably my favorite game of this generation) slightly.
I never cared for Smash Bros
Mario Tennis had nothing on Top Spin and Hot Shots still holds the title for best golf... Strikers just came out entirely too late
Paper Mario just didn't have an involving plot (or, imho, memorable characters) and yet the characters never shut up.

Eternal Darkness's gameplay just felt dated from the get go, but it's a cool game (MGS3 suffered from this too, but I'm pretty much the only one to feel that way :))

That said, the Cube was the best party system game, much like the Wii will be. The appeal is in the pick up and play aspect with a lot of people around. Otherwise, the overreliance on the classic characters (And they are classic) is starting to wear thin, Mario is officially a whore.

For this generation, I ultimately played my PS2 (for legal ability) more than I did my Xbox or Gamecube (though the Xbox wins overall, but reasons I uh.. can't get into). Xbox came in second, and the Gamecube came in third. It was close for a while, but the PS2 wound up with Dragon Quest VIII, Shadow of the Collossus, God of War, and Guitar Hero (nominee for favorite game of this gen) which put it over the top. If the Xbox weren't moddable it'd probably be closer to the Cube, as it stands, it generally just had better versions of multi-platform games (GTA series, sport games (wasn't an online guy at the time), Splinter Cell (which I still consider to be a purely Xbox game with mediocre ports), etc; ) and a few quality unique titles (Ninja Gaiden, KotoR 1/2, Jade Empire, etc; ). The Cube had many wonderful games that piqued my interest... and all those wonderful games got old long before they ended (to me).

That all said, I always thought the hardware for the Gamecube was vastly superior to that of the PS2s. Plus the price was right.

No third party support.

"Kiddy" image killed it in the US as well. Outside of the Resident Evils and Eternal Darkness their wasn't much in the way of "mature" games, which hurt it in the huge teen market here.

Even with the first party games, there weren't a ton. 1 Mario, 1 Zelda (another coming but way too late), 2 Metroid, Super Smash Bros, a mediocre Mario Kart. The star fox games sucked. The rest of the first party games were largely spinoffs like the Mario Sports series, Mario Party, Paper Mario etc. Good games, but not console sellers. Especially not to casual gamers.

I think it was a games issue on the whole.

SMSunshine: SM64 with a water cannon - whoopee
Celda - While it turned out okay for most that played it, the majority that were looking forward to the spaceworld Zelda were turned off. In an era of Halo & GTA this was a HUGE deal. This was Nintendo's "adult-ish" title and they made link a toddler complete with "kiddie" like graphics
Luigi's Mansion - Come on. A launch title? It was a fun little game but not near worth the $50 price tag
SMK: DoubleDash - a step backwards in the fun department. Two people was a gimmick. The roads were way too wide to generate any close battle or excitement. Limiting items to certain characters was a bad idea as well.
Mario sports: decent, but like DD barely a step above the previous incarnations. Not worth the upgrade.
Waverace: Blue Storm - way to kill a potential franchise. Release the same EXACT damn game with prettier water effects. :down:
Mario Party(s): haven't had a decent incarnation since 1 & 2, waaay overpriced series
Starfox Adventure: WTF was that?

So basically every game above(Zelda & starfox aside) were minor upgrades to the 64 versions. The first party bright spots were Metroids, Pikmins & F-Zero. All excellent incarnations.

So far, we have mediocre first party support then you add in the third parties which only had a decent exclusive games every few months. RE, Eternal Darkness, Monkey Ball(s), Rogue Squadron, and a few others. The BIGGEST problem is that most of the third party 'A' titles like Prince of Persia, Burnout, Madden, etc. could be had on both the other systems with better graphics or additions. If you have two consoles, which was a high likelihood this past gen, why would you buy a game for the weakest system? I think that hurt the most.

I'm a perpetuator of my theory. Prince of Persia, Burnout(s), and Beyond Good & Evil were all bought for my Xbox even though I owned a cube first and a year longer, I even liked the Wavebird more. But those same games on the box offered a range of new things like extra levels, online play, better graphics, etc. Exclusivity was a big problem.


*Flame prevention - I only listed/commented on games I owned

- oh, I wanted an Orange cube but had to settle for just the controller. :( I don't think color played a part.

I have to agree with you here. My cube ended up collecting dust next to my DC, I pull it out once in awhile to play games with my 5 year old.

I'm interested in hearing your reasoning. I've found myself struggling to get through Prime 2, when I just blasted through Prime. Can't quite figure out why though.

For me it was the 2 world format sucked. Doubled the back tracking since the dark world was usually near identical to the light, and the whole losing life just in the air and having to stand in the light spheres and wait to heal, repeat ad nauseum that killed it for me.

That and the absurdly hard bosses, which were even worse than the already difficult ones in the original.

its easy, nintendo is a nich market. they don't make their mass sales on shooters or blood flinging car jacking games like sony and microsoft do. and that is in our market, in japan sony has more titles that we'd call strange, but nintendo has a lot of them too that they sell in this country. i mean come on who though nintendogs would be a big hit on the DS, it wasn't anyone from america it was the market in japan. and the fact remains that most of the game sales are to little 12 year old kids who shouldn't be playing GTA or Halo 2 anyway they should be playing Mario like i did when i was a kid. nintendo games as goofy as they are; are just fun, but the mass market in this country with the screaming kids (and the screaming ass holes on xbox live) want IMO retarded games like GTA and 50 cent's game etc. that's why nintendo didn't win and they probably won't win ever unless they start making crap like sony and microsoft. don't get me wrong i love my 360, but 99% of the games shouldn't have kids under the age of 17 playing them! 99% of nintendo's games are for all ages.

Like others have mentioned, a lot of gamers wanted online play, and Nintendo simply refused to deliver.

Personally, I never really cared about online play, but what annoyed me was Nintendo's attitude toward the whole thing. Gamers said, "We want online gaming," and Nintendo almost seemed to take a "we know better than you" attitude and say, "No you don't; what you really want is to connect your Game Boy to your Gamecube!" For the first couple years of the Gamecube, Nintendo seemed so intensely focused on Game Boy/Gamecube connectivity. I think the resounding response from the public was, "We don't give a crap about that."

Well said.

As many here know I'm a huge MS fan. But to tell the truth, when Gamecube came out I really wanted to buy it if for no other reason than the cool Star Wars Based games. Then when I heard the Resident Evil series was becoming exclusive to Nintendo that pushed me even closer to getting it. But the longer I waited the less I wanted it. Once XBOX came along I even sold my PS2 and the idea of buying the Gamecube just faded away. I have no doubt it's a great system but just like XBOX doesn't appeal to many here, Gamecube jsut doesn't do it for me.

I struggled with the two worlds at first as well, but I think it was after the first time through, I got comfortable with and actually started loving the challenge. The further along I got (and more e-tanks and suits), the easier it became. In the end, I enjoyed the two world aspect quite a bit.

As far as the Nintendo thing, I agree with a lot of what has been said. The high sales numbers of consoles come from casual gamers. Casual gamers want lots of titles on the shelf to choose from (not AAA titles, as most casuals don't pay attention to reviews, developers, etc.), they want the more casual focus games (sports, mindless action, etc.), and the extras such as a DVD player adds to the sale.

It was also a snowball rolling down a hill effect. PS2 started first, and started selling, and people told their friends. If your friend has a PS2, you are more likely to get a PS2, as it is familiar. Once the trend started, it never stopped and only grew.

With the younger crowd, which is a shrinking percentage, the GamerCube did not have the "cool factor" either, and adults saw it as being more for kids.

Couple in the lack of third party support, for what ever reason, and Nintendo's inability to keep games coming out faster, and the GameCube just dragged.

That said, GameCube was easily my favorite of this generation. I started with fewer games on it, but have since caught up. If there Xbox version does not offer any compelling reason to do otherwise, I buy Cube (slight graphic improvement or minor "bonuses" are not compelling to me). Most of this is because of the Wavebird and the Cube's reliability. Mainly only PS2 exclusives are bought on that format (I own all three).

Desipte some of the negative thoughts here on some of Nintendo's titles, I found most to be quite excellent and would easily take another one for many of the exclusives found on the Xbox or PS2.

Although I'd hate to give up my Xbox or PS2.

I forgot about that cool Spice color.... that would have been a sweet Cube.

The Cube was my 1st console of the last generation it was Indigo. The wavebird was the best controller ever. It is still a great system today Ithink. It however did not have the most steller 3rd party games so I had to get a PS2 and a Xbox.

Interesting thread. I really don't think about what console I play the most, but rather just think about the games. So when I sat and thought about it, I also play about 5x as much cube stuff. When given a choice of which console to buy a game for (like Tiger Woods, Tony Hawk, etc.) I always went for the cube because the controller was more important than the slightly better graphics. I have even returned games for the xbox and then bought them for the cube because of the controller was so much better.

I like graphics, but I think it is really secondary to game play and control is a big part of that.

I'm pretty sure the cube was first for me this generation as well.

As I recall, I bought a used N64 and a bunch of games from somebody on this forum...after skipping the N64 for the PS1 last generation. I was simply blown away by the AAA titles on the N64 and started thinking about the Gamecube. Meanwhile, they were offering the Zelda OOT bonus game with Wind Waker and a Mario Sunshine/Memory card pack in with the Cube all for something like $129. A console, three games and a memory card for $179 seemed like a pretty good deal to me. I never looked back.

Can't recall what finally convinced me to buy a PS2, but I do know that I purchased at the $179 price point. I think that it might have been GTA.

Nothing on the X-box ever looked that interesting other than Halo, and it didn't look any more interesting than Metroid Prime. :shrug: