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1/Only Xbox 360 Game Reviews Thread
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Interesting scores so far; not bad, but certainly not outstanding.
One thing that worries me is that usually when a console first comes out, the scores the games get tend to be a bit inflated, since there isn't really much of that same generation to compare them to. If that is the case here, and these scores are a bit inflated, that is a bit disappointing. |
Originally Posted by TheMadMonk
Interesting scores so far; not bad, but certainly not outstanding.
One thing that worries me is that usually when a console first comes out, the scores the games get tend to be a bit inflated, since there isn't really much of that same generation to compare them to. If that is the case here, and these scores are a bit inflated, that is a bit disappointing. |
Originally Posted by TheMadMonk
Interesting scores so far; not bad, but certainly not outstanding.
One thing that worries me is that usually when a console first comes out, the scores the games get tend to be a bit inflated, since there isn't really much of that same generation to compare them to. If that is the case here, and these scores are a bit inflated, that is a bit disappointing. Doubt it though. And what's wrong with solid 8s? That is still a substantial score, even in the ever high-rating world of Internet game sites. Do people expect 10s at launch, or even ever? Very few games should ever breach the 9, let alone 10 mark. |
Originally Posted by TheMadMonk
Interesting scores so far; not bad, but certainly not outstanding.
One thing that worries me is that usually when a console first comes out, the scores the games get tend to be a bit inflated, since there isn't really much of that same generation to compare them to. If that is the case here, and these scores are a bit inflated, that is a bit disappointing. |
Anyone else think they should be disclosing the television they are reviewing on for these HD games?
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
Anyone else think they should be disclosing the television they are reviewing on for these HD games?
Game reviews should focus on the content of the games. I'd hate to see reviews, and gaming in general, shift to focusing on the videophiles. There's way to much emphasis on graphics as is. |
I think they should disclose if they are rating it based on being played in HD or not-HD, it can effect gameplay.
Anyone find it interesting that there are no reviews for Perfeck Dark 0, arguably the highest profile game of the launch? |
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
I think they should disclose if they are rating it based on being played in HD or not-HD, it can effect gameplay.
Anyone find it interesting that there are no reviews for Perfeck Dark 0, arguably the highest profile game of the launch? http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/663/663047p6.html |
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
I think they should disclose if they are rating it based on being played in HD or not-HD, it can effect gameplay.
I just don't want to see video game reviewers start listing their TVs, and home theater setups in the reviews. That stuff just always seemed like nothing more than "my penis is bigger than yours" type of bragging anyway. Who cares? If it looks great on one HDTV, it will look great on them all, with it obviously looking the best on the top of the line sets. |
I would think they should at least mention the hardware/tv they're using.
While certainly the 'gameplay' is important, one of the most obvious differences between 360 and Xbox games, at least right now, will be the graphics. How's the HD, how's the analog, does the non-HD noticeably improve on original Xbox, etc. And game ratings are interesting. On a scale of 1-10, I would think a 6 or 7 would be decent and playable, and 7.5-8.5 would be quite good. If I were looking at the ratings of all games for one console, I would expect to see some sort of bell curve, with a few totally crappy games down in the 1-3 range, a few superb, must-owns at the 9-10, and a large number of games in 5-7 or 8 as "Pretty/very good, a few flaws/annoyances, but fun." |
Again, I agree compare HD to non-HD in reviews is a great idea. Just not what make and model of HDTV they have.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Again, I agree compare HD to non-HD in reviews is a great idea. Just not what make and model of HDTV they have.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Again, I agree compare HD to non-HD in reviews is a great idea. Just not what make and model of HDTV they have.
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I do think HD matters for quality of the graphics, however, the game will play the same on any TV. Gameplay IS STILL IMPORTANT ;)
I'm a bit disappointed in the NBA games so far....I still may get one (possibly wait until X-mas for it). I like 2K6 on XBOX, so I may just get that....I haven't played NBA Live 06 though (except on PSP) I believe they will have a D/L demo for Live 06 though on XBOX LIVE....that is still a DAMN cool feature of the 360. |
Originally Posted by TheMadMonk
Interesting scores so far; not bad, but certainly not outstanding.
One thing that worries me is that usually when a console first comes out, the scores the games get tend to be a bit inflated, since there isn't really much of that same generation to compare them to. If that is the case here, and these scores are a bit inflated, that is a bit disappointing. |
Links updated.
Gamespot's NBA2K6 score is quite a bit more encouraging. Will be reading full review later. |
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
No. Leave that for the hard core DVD review sites.
Game reviews should focus on the content of the games. I'd hate to see reviews, and gaming in general, shift to focusing on the videophiles. There's way to much emphasis on graphics as is. Maybe it makes one feel inferior to hear all the HDTV talk. I wouldnt know. ;) |
So far there's not a less than above average title reviewed... and we've still got Condemned, Perfect Dark Zero and Quake 4 to go. I don't forsee a true stinker in the bunch.
Compare that to the original Xbox launch. While there were 8's and 9's for Halo, Project Gotham Racing and Fuzion Frenzy... there were also titles like Bruce Lee, Kabuki Warriors and Cel Damage that got very poor marks. |
If you want to throw some 1up.com scores into the mix:
PGR3 - 10.0 CoD2 - 9.0 FIFA - 7.0 NBA 2K6 - 7.0 Amped 3 - 7.0 |
It seems that they are really struggling to review games that are also available on the PS2 and XBox. 1up gives NBA 2K6 a 7.0, even though they gave the XBox version a 9.0. What's the story - on the XBox it's a must buy, but on the 360 it's treading almost into "rent it first" territory? Is the 7.0 relative to some unfounded expectations, to other 360 games, or to the XBox/PS2 version of the game? It's almost as if these games need two reviews, one for people who already have the game on a current-gen system (5.0 - don't bother upgrading) and one for people who waited for the 360 version (9.0 - same as XBox but with better graphics, additional controls, and (according to IGN) improved AI.)
I'm not trying to nit-pick and rip on them for this particular review, I'm just using this as one example of the problem I'm seeing in a lot of these reviews. |
Originally Posted by Daryl
It seems that they are really struggling to review games that are also available on the PS2 and XBox. 1up gives NBA 2K6 a 7.0, even though they gave the XBox version a 9.0. What's the story - on the XBox it's a must buy, but on the 360 it's treading almost into "rent it first" territory? Is the 7.0 relative to some unfounded expectations, to other 360 games, or to the XBox/PS2 version of the game? It's almost as if these games need two reviews, one for people who already have the game on a current-gen system (5.0 - don't bother upgrading) and one for people who waited for the 360 version (9.0 - same as XBox but with better graphics, additional controls, and (according to IGN) improved AI.)
I'm not trying to nit-pick and rip on them for this particular review, I'm just using this as one example of the problem I'm seeing in a lot of these reviews. |
Yeah, that's my complaint too. I stopped buying Xbox games after Madden, waiting on the 360 versions. Now, does the 360 version of NBA2K6 stink, or is it just not enough to warrant a second purchase? Would anyone really buy that game twice? Seems like some faulty reasoning to me.
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Originally Posted by Save Ferris
Says the person who doesnt have an HDTV.
Maybe it makes one feel inferior to hear all the HDTV talk. I wouldnt know. ;) Listing your specific HT setup in a review is just tacky showing off IMO. |
I agree that you shouldn't need to list your HT specs to review a game, but I think part of the review should contain HD vs. Non-HD differences.
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
If you want to throw some 1up.com scores into the mix:
PGR3 - 10.0 CoD2 - 9.0 FIFA - 7.0 NBA 2K6 - 7.0 Amped 3 - 7.0 Played the demo for Call of Duty 2 on the 360 at Target last night....incredible!!!! :) |
Still waiting for PD0 review. Elijah Wood told me it rocked and I want specifics.
http://z.about.com/d/xbox/1/0/h/5/Xbox_elijahwood.jpg |
Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
Still waiting for PD0 review. Elijah Wood told me it rocked and I want specifics.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.ya...jah_wood13.jpg |
So if Amped 3 isn't that awesome, what snowboarding game should I look forward to?
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Originally Posted by hippochris
So if Amped 3 isn't that awesome, what snowboarding game should I look forward to?
SSX Still Touring ;) |
Updated with new scores, including a blistering 6.9 for FIFA.
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For those that are wondering about the NBA review and some others, my personal opinion is they haven't been wowed by these games. Also, if you're only looking at the scores then please read the actual reviews as it does address most of your concerns.
Back to NBA 2k6, they just mentioned that the game itself is exactly the same as the current gen versions. Which means it's (IMHO) the best basketball game ever. I played both NBA games and Live to me is vastly inferior to 2k6. So, unless they made some drastic changes to Live for 360 I'd go with 2k6. As far as it scoring less than the current gen versions, let's put things into perspective. Gameplay is the same as was stated earlier, so seeing as how we're talking next gen the next thing to rate are graphical differences. We expect 360 to pump out graphics that'll make your brain melt. Well, 2k6's player models are highly impressive, as is the court. Problem is the arena and it's fans, and also coaches and people in general off the court still compare to current standards. As a complete package it's not what you want from the latest and greatest. |
wow a 6.6 for Tony Hawk from Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/spor...ml?sid=6139979
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I don't think it's a coincedence that we haven't seen a PD0 score. If you noticed, both IGN and GS posted their first reviews just after 12:00 am Tuesday. Obviously, they have signed some kind of agreement not to post reviews before then. I woud say they have signed a similar agreement for PD0. If I don't see some scores before Tues, I definitely won't be getting it. Of course, that's almost a week away.
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is 360 Live up an running? I remember from earlier reviews that it didn't work at the time. maybe that is delaying the PDZ reviews as MP a huge part of the game is
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So far, it seems like EA is taking the brunt of the criticisms for the 360 launch. 2K6 seems to be preferred over NBA Live by almost everyone, people are mad at the stripped down features of Madden, and FIFA is on track to be the lowest rated launch title.
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The Bad: Plays just like the Xbox and PS2 versions; not for casual basketball fans; need a high-definition display to get the most out of it. First, "the game plays like the Xbox and PS2 versions", which scored HIGHER than this one did (2K6 on the Xbox got a 8.8, the 360 got an 8.3). So great gameplay carried over into the next generation is a BAD thing? I don't get that. Why do these reviewers think that everything needs to be revamped just because it's the next generation? You see this in reviews for the sports titles, Gun, Tony Hawk... any game that's also on the current consoles. They always say "Bah, plays just like the version out now". Makes no sense. Second, I've never seen a review say that the sound of a video game is bad if you don't have a Dolby Digital 5.1 system to utilize it. Were we bashing Atari 2600 games saying "need a color TV to get the most out of it"? Your home theater setup (or lack thereof) is NOT the fault of the game. If a game is optimized to have better sound or better visuals with better equipment... that's a PLUS. All reviewers on all sites seem to be falling into this camp of "bashing" 360 games because they look better in HDTV and play like their current counterparts. I just don't get it. |
Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
This was from Gamespot's review of NBA 2K6, and it seems to be the kind of opinion that every reviewer is latching onto. And I just don't get it.
First, "the game plays like the Xbox and PS2 versions", which scored HIGHER than this one did (2K6 on the Xbox got a 8.8, the 360 got an 8.3). So great gameplay carried over into the next generation is a BAD thing? I don't get that. Why do these reviewers think that everything needs to be revamped just because it's the next generation? You see this in reviews for the sports titles, Gun, Tony Hawk... any game that's also on the current consoles. They always say "Bah, plays just like the version out now". Makes no sense. Second, I've never seen a review say that the sound of a video game is bad if you don't have a Dolby Digital 5.1 system to utilize it. Were we bashing Atari 2600 games saying "need a color TV to get the most out of it"? Your home theater setup (or lack thereof) is NOT the fault of the game. If a game is optimized to have better sound or better visuals with better equipment... that's a PLUS. All reviewers on all sites seem to be falling into this camp of "bashing" 360 games because they look better in HDTV and play like their current counterparts. I just don't get it. |
I guess I can see the reviews views on these games. Basically, we get NBA 2K6 with improved player models. Which, is not a bad thing...I enjoyed 2K6. I can see reviewers looking for something REALLY innovative, and that is why the scores suffer. Also, you are paying $60 compared to $40 (Isn't that 2K6 XBOX price point...if not cheaper). So, reviewers may think they are not gettings as much bang for the buck.
We'll see. |
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