gimmepilotwings

I felt the same way. I was going to decide between Baseball Stars/ Metal Slug 3, but I figured that the Neo Geo system might hurt. I went with a safer pick.

DJ_Longfellow

Sorry, I didn't realize about the editing thing......I assure you I didn't switch any of my votes....I just wanted to add my small little prize.

Canis Firebrand

Looks like another draft game I get bounced from.
I'm down a number of pics right now. Granted, there is still time left..

orangecrush

I have never played the PS version; I just assumed it was a port. I would have voted the same regardless, but that info would probably make it closer in my mind. I do have to say that deciding in this draft is much harder than the music draft. I wouldn't mind being stuck with anyone's list on a desert island.

keyed

My votes will be going toward the games that I've loved and played, so I'll be a little biased against PS2 & Gamecube games.

1. D_N_G vs orangecrush18 -- D_N_G2. maxfisher vs ChrisKnudson -- ChrisKnudsen3. maxflier vs ryuryu2949 -- ryuryu29494. DJ_Longfellow vs keyed -- keyed5. gimmepilotwings vs Jeremy517 -- Jeremy5176. cleaver vs dashed -- cleaver7. mano365 vs msdmoney -- mano3658. rainmaker vs Vryce -- Rainmaker

ryuryu2949

Bus, I know you voted for me, but wouldn't you say Wonder Boy III was going out on a limb? How many people had a SMS?

ryuryu2949

This is going to be tough. I know this isn't the best measurement, but I am going to do a matchup round-by-round to determine my pick.

1- D_N_G (was a tie at 5-5, so I went with the best game on the list, which is SMB3)
2- maxfisher (6-4; appreciated the 3do and cdi picks, but that might have cost you the match in my vote based on the matchup)
3- ryuryu2949 (of course I will be voting for myself--Sega Master System rocks!)
4- djlongfellow (was tied at 5-5, so I went with the best game, Mike Tyson's Punch Out)
5- gimmepilotwings (8-2, the first wide margin yet)
6- cleaver (6-4)
7- msdmoney (6-4)
8- rainmaker (7-3)


Shocked nobody picked ET for the Atari 2600!

Canis Firebrand

Since my list seems to not be classic enough, or contain those obscure titles, let me go on the defensive and explain my picks.

1. Final Fantasy VII - Playstation - The game that exploded Final Fantasy in the US market. Without its success, I doubt the US would have seen actual releases of any of the earlier Final Fantasy series and I would hazard a guess that Final Fantasy games after it might have been short in supply.

2. Chu Chu Rocket - Dreamcast - Pure camp fun. Everytime I hook up my DreamCast I find myself playing this game. It is infectious fun that leads to competition if played where anyone watches you.

3. Secret of Mana - SNES - One of the best RPG games.

4. Metroid - NES - The metroid craze started here. Who can deny it and talk about the shock ending.

5. Paper Mario - Nintendo 64 - A unique game with our favorite plumber. It's Mario.

6. Pitfall - Atari 2600 - In all its crocodile jumping, vine swinging goodness

7. Jade Empire - XBox - Highly anticipated and successful on the coattails of Knights of the Old Republic.

8. SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs - PS2 - One of the first, if not the first, multiplayer games for PS2. Highly successful in its day.

9. Mario Cart Double Dash - GameCube - Pure fun. A great party game with multiple friends. I've spent hours playing this game

10. Fable - XBox - ANother highly anticipated game for the XBox. A semi-opened ended RPG game where your actions determine how your character looks and people react with you. Unique and great game play.

ChrisKnudsen

The games I liked from each of their lists.

1. D_N_G vs orangecrush18

D_N_G

5. Super Monkey Ball - Gamecube (2 is better)
9. Resident Evil - Playstation (Saturn version was better IMO)

orangecrush18
10. Super Dodge Ball - NES

winner: orangecrush18 (Super Dodge Ball would be 2nd round for me)

2. maxfisher vs ChrisKnudson

maxfisher
5. Silent Hill - Playstation (still the best Silent Hill)
9. Twisted Metal 2 - Playstation (really great and best of the Twisted Metal series, spent too many hours on this)

ChrisKnudsen
1. Earthbound - SNES
2. River City Ransom - NES
3. Out of this World - 3DO
4. Parappa the Rapper - Playstation
5. Katamari Damacy - PS2
6. Pikmin - Gamecube
7. Burn:Cycle - CD-i
8. Maniac Mansion - NES
9. Nights - Saturn
10. Fear Effect - Playstation

winner: ChrisKnudsen (even though I am going to get killed hardcore by traditional gamer votes)

3. maxflier vs ryuryu2949

Maxflier
2. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - XBox
6. Tomb Raider - Playstation (didn't play the PSX version, though)
7. Castlevania IV - SNES
8. Kid Icarus - NES (8uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu)
9. Lunar: The Silver Star - Sega CD

ryuryu2949
2. Tecmo Super Bowl - NES
3. Tetris (Tengen) - NES
4. NHL '94 - Genesis
8. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time - SNES
9. Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap - Master System
10. Phantasy Star - Master System

winner: MaxFlier (Kid Icarus and Lunar are great picks)

4. DJ_Longfellow vs keyed

DJ_Longfellow
6. Final Fantasy X - PS2
7. Mutant League Football - Genesis
8. Night Trap - Sega CD

keyed
7. Tekken 3 - Playstation
9. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 - Playstation

winner: DJ_Longfellow (I almost drafted Night Trap)

5. gimmepilotwings vs Jeremy517

gimmepilotwings
1. Soul Caliber - Dreamcast
3. Panzer Dragoon Saga - Sega Saturn
4. Ico - PS2
6. Virtua Tennis - Dreamcast
9. Bubble Bobble - NES

Jeremy517
1. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - SNES
6. Super Smash Brothers Melee - Gamecube
7. Tony Hawk 3 - PS2
8. Battle of Olympus - NES
9. Fire Emblem - GBA

winner: gimmepilotwings (all of his picks are great)

6. cleaver vs dashed

cleaver
2. Final Fantasy III - SNES
6. Metroid Prime 2 - Gamecube
7. Herzog Zwei - Genesis

Dashed
1. Chrono Trigger - SNES
4. Perfect Dark - Nintendo 64
6. Ogre Battle - SNES
7. Castlevania II: Simon's Quest - NES

winner: cleaver (despite I despise many games from both of their lists, Herzog Zwei is awesome)

7. mano365 vs msdmoney

mano365
1. Metal Gear Solid - Playstation
2. Super Mario World - SNES
3. Gunstar Heroes - Genesis
5. Saturn Bomberman - Saturn
6. Rez - PS2
8. Dragon Force - Saturn
9. WipEout XL - Playstation
10. Jet Grind Radio - Dreamcast

msdmoney
2. Metroid Prime - Gamecube
3. Baseball Stars - NES
6. Zombies Ate My Neighbors - Genesis
9. Psychonauts - PS2
10. Blades of Steel - NES

winner: mano365 (The end of the list is better than the start)

8. rainmaker vs Vryce

Rainmaker
5. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 - Dreamcast
8. RC Pro Am - NES
10. Radiant Silvergun - Sega Saturn

Vryce
1. Final Fantasy VII - Playstation
2. Chu Chu Rocket - Dreamcast

[B] winner: Vryce (FF7 is still my favorite RPG and Chu Chu Rocket is my favorite Puzzle game (which I wanted to draft) but the rest of his list I do not care for)

msdmoney

D_N_G Street Fighter 2 and Super Mario 3 would have been on my list, I found orangecrush18's list too RPG heavy for my tastes.

maxfisher
1. Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube
2. Mario Kart 64 - Nintendo 64
3. Bionic Commando - NES
9. Twisted Metal 2 - Playstation
4 of my favorites, and I really wanted to pick TM2, loved that game.

ryuryu2949 tough for me, but I played the hell out of Goldeneye and Tecmo so I had to go with ryu.

keyed Tecmo bowl, altered beast and golden axe.

Jeremy517 some better classics IMO

cleaver, no contest here Zelda OoT is my favorite game ever and that is combined with Legend of Zelda, God of War, Metroid Prime 2

msdmoney - voting for myself, actually I really haven't played many games from mako's list. As cleaver mentioned my list is pretty adventure heavy, that's just what I enjoy.

Rainmaker- more anti FF7 than anything else, but I loved Tetris and RC pro Am.

DamingR

DNG
ChrisK
ryu
DJ_L
Jeremy
Dashed
msdmoney
Vryce

pinata242

1. orangecrush18
2. ChrisKnudson
3. maxflier
4. keyed
5. Jeremy517
6. cleaver
7. msdmoney
8. Vryce

DVDChris

1. D_N_G
Gotta go with DNG here because it is more well rounded in the different genres.

2. maxfisher
This was a tough one for me. I went with maxfisher simply because I didn't know some of the games on the other list.

3. maxflier
Too many good games in maxflier's list.

4. DJ_Longfellow
I simply liked more games in Longfellow's list.

5. gimmepilotwings
Bubble Bobble is one of my all time favorites.

6. cleaver
I liked more of the games in cleaver's list.

7. msdmoney
haven't played many of the games in mano's list. So gave it to msdmoney.

8. Vryce
vryce had a slightly better lineup.

Dash

I really hope there is a loosers bracet for this. I think I match up good but even I evny cleavers list

orangecrush

If no one else wanted to, I would officate an N.I.T. (i.e. losers) bracket.

Mano

A little statistical breakdown (sorry it's not as flashy as The Bus' over in the music draft):

Games by system:

• Atari 2600---------------------------------2
• Nintendo Entertainment System ----------24
• Sega Master System-----------------------2
• Nintendo Gameboy------------------------2
• Sega Genesis -----------------------------11
• Super Nintendo Entertainment System ---21
• Sega CD ----------------------------------3
• Sega Game Gear--------------------------1
• CD-i---------------------------------------1
• 3DO---------------------------------------1
• Sega Saturn-------------------------------5
• Sony Playstation--------------------------15
• Nintendo 64-------------------------------9
• Nintendo Gameboy Advance--------------4
• Sega Dreamcast --------------------------7
• Sony PlayStation 2------------------------20
• Nintendo Gamecube ----------------------12
• Microsoft XBox----------------------------17
• Nintendo DS-------------------------------2
• Sony PSP----------------------------------1

Games by generation: (this is how I would classify each gen. anyway)

• 1st Generation (Atari, NES, SMS) - 28
• 2nd Generation (GB, Genesis, SNES, Sega CD, GG, CD-i) - 39
• 3rd Generation (3DO, SS, PS1, N64, GBA) - 34
• 4th Generation (DC, PS2, XB, GC, DS, PSP) - 59

If everyone would be willing to look up the publisher/developer and the release date for their games I would be willing to list that too.

ChrisKnudsen

Here are the release dates, ratings and mini reviews with star ratings from allgame.com:

1. Earthbound - SNES
1995 (****)
-1st RPG I played all the way through and got bored with FFIII (or 6) and Secret of Mana so I thought that RPGs just wasn't my thing until I played this.

2. River City Ransom - NES
Jan 1990 (*** 1/2)
-My favorite Nintendo game and the RPG elements make it 4000% better than Double Dragon.

3. Out of this World - 3DO
1994 (****)
-Beat the SNES version so many times that it is probaly the most beaten game by me but I end up buying a 3DO later in my life just so I can play this verison with better graphics and such and wow, it really does look amazing and well worth just buying the 3DO alone.

4. Parappa the Rapper - Playstation
Nov 1997 (****)
-The reason why I bought a PSX and is probably the 2nd most beaten game by me. I still don't get tired by the story. Never got around to playing part 2 for whatever reason but played UmJammy LAmmy.

5. Katamari Damacy - PS2
Sep 2004 (***1/2)
-Too addictive. Lost many nights of sleep over this.

6. Pikmin - Gamecube
Dec. 2001 (****)
-1st gamecube game I got (with Super Monkey Ball) and I end up beating it in 3 days but still would go around and playing and beating it like once every two months.

7. Burn:Cycle - CD-i
1994 (****)
-I love adventure games and since we couldn't pick PC games for whatever reason, I chose the great lost CD-i game Burn:Cycle which I have played the PC version a lot and this version seems less buggy. Other nominees include for my CD-i pick: Lil Devil and that is really it.

8. Maniac Mansion - NES
Oct. 1990 (***)
-Played this game with friends a lot and was only able to beat it actually once with Bernard and Wendy but man, did my friends like to drown one of our team or put the hamster in the microwave. Too many memories not to include this one.

9. Nights - Saturn
Aug. 1996 (****)
-Reason why I bought a Saturn (after I bought a Dreamcast) for 20 dollars and while they were many great games for the Saturn, this is probably my favorite platform like game.

10. Fear Effect - Playstation
Feb 2000 (****1/2)
-Maybe my favorite story with dialogue (the all time greatest videogame story is still Out of this World). More twisits than a Shalyaman film.

cleaver

I'm not surprised no Neo Geo or Jaguar (Alien vs Predator) games were selected, but I'm shocked no Turbografx-16 or Atari Lynx games were selected.

Nintendo 64 had 9 games drafted to Dreamcast's 7, but N64 is remembered as a much greater success.

Nintendo systems make up 80% of portable games drafted, and the 3 portable systems with the most games drafted.

Although SNES had the 2nd most games drafted, it had the most in the 1st round (4), 3 in the 2nd (only NES had more with 5), most in the 3rd (5, along with NES), and 3 in the 4th (tied for most, but NES only had 1).

Playstation had 15 games drafted (5th most among systems), 3 in the 1st round (2nd most) and 5 in the 9th (as many in any round as any system).

Dash

Im glad to see the old school Nintendo Dominance (nes and snes). They just dont make games like they used to. Though a few of the new games really do stand out.

DJ_Longfellow

I almost selected a Lynx game, it was one of the systems that I owned. I surprised I drafted the only PSP game. I just did it so I had a handheld game.....I almost picked Lumines (I wonder if that would've helped)

IDrinkMolson

1. D_N_G
2. maxfisher
3. ryuryu2949
4. DJ_Longfellow
5. Jeremy517
6. cleaver
7. msdmoney
8. Vryce

Rockmjd23

1.DNG
2.maxfisher
3.maxflier
4.DJLongfellow
5.jeremy517
6.cleaver
7.manos
8.vryce

Rainmaker

1) orangecrush18
2) ChrisKnudsen
3) ryuryu2949
4) DJ Longfellow
5) gimmepilotwings
6) cleaver
7) mano365
8) Rainmaker

Fincher Fan

And the winners are:

1. D_N_G. It was close but D_N_G had a slight edge with the original RE.
2. maxfisher. This was easy as RE4 owns all.
3. ryuryu2949. Although Shenmue is a hard game to vote against.
4. DJ_Longfellow. This was close. I almost voted for Keyed.
5. gimmiepilotwings. Easy decision. Virtua Tennis and Soul Calibur? No contest. San Andreas was just icing on the cake.
6. cleaver. More games on that list that I've enjoyed.
7. msdmoney. Mario 64, RE4 and Metroid Prime? Does it get any better?
8. vryce. Although I can't deny the greatness of Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Metroid for the NES is a pure old school classic.

cleaver

Standings with under an hour to go
D_N_G up 18-9 on orangecrush18
maxfisher up 19-8 on Chris Knudson
maxflier up 14-13 on ryuryu2949
DJ_Longfellow up 18-9 on keyed
gimmepilotwings up 15-12 on Jeremy 517
cleaver up 21-6 on dashed
mano365 up 14-13 on msdmoney
Vryce up 14-13 on rainmaker

Some close pairings; DJ_Longfellow's vote which wasn't counted will be used as the tiebreaker