hardcore

I find selling the herbs to be worth more than the potions. Basically I farm herbs to make myself Major Mana Potions (I can go through several in one fight ) and sell whatever herbs I have leftover. I think I said it before, but if you want to make money on transmutes, finish your scholo quests (from the ghosts in front) and you'll learn both the Major Mana Potion recipe, and Transmute Water to Air, which at current prices can make you 8-10g per day.

If you are hoping to train your enchanting from 225-255 so you can buy all the formulas in Uldaman in one go, is there one that can do that with Vision Dust? I went there with a ton of dream dust expecting to use that, but found that in order to get the skillups I needed a lot of Nether Essence as well.

nickdawgy

I have skinning and leatherworking. I am at 225 leatherworking and like 278 skinning. I can't go past 225 leatherworking until 40 (which is 2 levels away) so I was wondering if I should drop skinning, and then pick up another skill like herbs so I can pick a bunch of herbs to send to an alt that can do alchemy or a friend that can.

I am always looking for potions for leatherworking, and the prices on my server are a joke.

DaveNinja

Also to train up you need lots of the items to put enchants onto. i would just plan on having to make a return trip. I went back at level ~45 with a level 60 and it wasnt much of a problem.

hardcore

Are you sure about this? I believe you can become an artisan for all professions at level 35. I believe the trainer you need to talk to is in the Hinterlands though.

glassdragon

Yes, it is 35 for artisan not 40
Damn hardcore, how long are your battles lol.. with a 2 minute cooldown on potions how can you go through multiple potions a battle? Is it from bosses in the instances?

glassdragon

Do you know where the back entrance to uldamann is in the badlands? I'm going to take Drunkallknight through there to get his artisan but i need to know where the backdoor instance is since it's closer

Fandango

The back entrance is north of Kargath, just keep going around everything and keep going north, you will see some dark iron miners and a little cave entrance on the left.

As for enchanting you do know you can just enchant the same item over and over right? If you don't want to enchant your own items repeatedly just buy some cheap low level ones and do it on those.

glassdragon

yep, it will just ask you if you'd like to replace the enchantment on it already

DrunkLastKnight

Yeah I knew that.

From what I can tell from thottbot, someone stated they went from 225 to 250 Enchanting on 160 Vision, theres also another set of items that you can use to upgrade enchanting but that will probly cost more.

and glass, its drunklastknight :P

glassdragon

yeah whatever, i know for sure you weren't drunk last night so the whole thing is pointless anyways

timewaster

where do u get the schoolmance quest to get the recipe for major mana and the transmute? I've been looking for him. Is he outside the schoolmance instance or inside?
I'm assuming u need a 5 man group to complete the quest and it can't be done in a raid?

hardcore

Heh, it's easy to lose track of time in a long battle, so I can't say how long they are exactly, but all the potions are for the Molten Core, and to a lesser extent Zul'Gurub, where some boss fights can easily last over 5 minutes. Last time we fought Majordomo I went through 3 major mana potions and various other mana sources (demonic runes, night dragon's breath). Good thing I make my own...

Right outside of Scholomance on the right hand side are two ghosts. I don't think they have and exclamation mark, but if you talk to one of them they will tell you a long story. At the end of the story they will give you a quest called "Doctor Theolen Krastinov, the Butcher" to go and kill the butcher. After you do that they'll give you one to kill Jandice Barov, and finally they will give you one to kill Kirtonos. Part of your reward is a trinket that will let you see ghosts in Caer Darrow. One of these ghosts (in the blacksmith area) has the two transmutes as well as some recipes for other professions. There's also another ghost upstairs in Scholomance that will continue the quest chain. And yes, it has to be done in 5 man.

joeblow69

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the undead can regain "health" by eating things like cheese and apples? Shouldn't they have to eat only fleshy food?

And I know I should have asked this before I've played my mage this far, but do mages get any cool stuff? Like pets, or demons? Or any really cool abilities start unlocking as you level up?

DaveNinja

I thought they changed it back at like 1.4 to make it so you couldnt re-enchant an item with the same enchant. i guess i never tried it to make sure.

i thought the front enterance to uldaman was up in the north badlands, and the back enterance is the cave in the middle of the badlands with the elite troggs out front? The enterance in the north has the meeting stone. it is also easier to get through the north entrance, i think.

Fandango

Whenever I was in the area people always referred to the one with the meeting stone as the back entrance. The entrance with the troggs is easier to get through as it is possible to just run on through and get into the instance while the other one that is not possible to do.

Eelkram

LOL. Why would people refer to the area on the map labeled uldaman, and where you can find the meeting stone for the instance the back entrance? And call the entrance which isn't labeled on the map the front entrance?

timewaster

i agree.
on my server front is the meeting stone.
The unlabeled is the back.

DaveNinja

i know you have to be level 35 to get the 225-300 engineering, but do you have to be level 40 to get cooking of 225-300?

glassdragon

As far as i know all trade skills only require 35 for artisan, you may need to buy a book though to learn artisan. I know with fishing and first aid you need to buy or find a book to learn artisan.

DrunkLastKnight

Ever since I started playing around Mid July Ive always been able to enchant the same thing on an item. It will ask you "Are you sure you want to replace 'X' with 'X'?"

hardcore

I believe for all the secondary profession (Fishing, Cooking, First Aid), you have to be level 40 and have 225 skill to learn the Artisan level.

glassdragon

this could be, I'm probably wrong here. Wouldn't be the first time but i still think you need a book to learn artisan in them though.

hardcore

The book is to learn expert. To get artisan, at level 40 and with 225 skill the trainers in IF/OG will give you a quest to go to the master trainer for that profession. Each trainer has a quest that has to be done to get Artisan. Cooking you need to get some eggs, cheese and clams. Fishing you need to catch 4 fish in different places, and first aid you need to do the whack-a-mole triage quest (for alliance at least).

khai

It's not in the main cities (IF/ORG). You have to go to different areas. Gadgetzan for the artisan cooking quest. For first aid artisan quests, Hammerfall for horde, Theramore for Alliance.

And fishing, I've never tried.

neiname

We 9-manned raided Scholo last night and the Ace of Portals, bone wand (?) and major mana recipe drops from last guy (and some other minor stuff) and the freaking warrior who rode me b/c I was only a lvl 56 priest (and 1st time in scholomance) "accidentely" rolled on the the potion b/c it was a green item. I was pissed so he offered 5g compenstation to me for the mix up. I told him to keep it and understand the rules of pass on BoP that we follow on our server til we can sort who gets what out. I did win the bone wand (whatever its called, it has 53dps with +4int) out of 3 ppl rolling so I at least walked away with something. I then asked the warrior if he was an alchemist and alas, NO. What an idiot.

I do not know where the quest giver is.

BTW, is the orb of transformation worth it? I got it for a sweet price off someone (50g plus 3 arcanite bars, normally sells for 250g on my server). Should I keep or sell?