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PixyJunket 06-28-05 01:12 PM

Getting the yellow out?
 
Does anybody know of a good way to clean up video game systems (or other plastic hardware) that have been "yellowed" or am I just out of luck? I'm getting a very nice toy in the mail this week that was originally white but was listed as "slighty yellowed, as most this old are" and was just wondering what I could do to clean it up (if possible).

UAIOE 06-28-05 01:26 PM

You're SOL.

When plastic goes yellow (like with the Super Nintendo) its the plastic itself, not something on it.

The best you can hope for is either painting it or buying another one.

Groucho 06-28-05 01:29 PM

I think it's a good idea to hit the pause button and get the yellow out at least every couple of hours each gaming session.

joshd2012 06-28-05 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
I think it's a good idea to hit the pause button and get the yellow out at least every couple of hours each gaming session.

That's.... that's just awful.

I was going to make an asian joke, but this tops anything I could hope to come up with.

PixyJunket 06-28-05 01:37 PM

Damn. I don't think it's TOO bad (the pictures looked pretty good) but I've got that collector's mentality of wanting something in the best possible condition.

Save Ferris 06-28-05 01:38 PM

OK, maybe this will help. I saw a tip for getting the yellow/rust stains off of a sink. basically you get a paper towel wet with bleach and 'stick' it on the side of the sink. eventually it takes out the stain. Maybe this will only work with ceramic and could ruin plastic. Im not sure how bad bleach is for plastic.

Save Ferris 06-28-05 01:41 PM

some reference: http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf500711.tip.html

PixyJunket 06-28-05 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Save Ferris
OK, maybe this will help. I saw a tip for getting the yellow/rust stains off of a sink. basically you get a paper towel wet with bleach and 'stick' it on the side of the sink. eventually it takes out the stain. Maybe this will only work with ceramic and could ruin plastic. Im not sure how bad bleach is for plastic.

I soaked my top-loading NES in bleach after it sat in fire-rubble for 3 months and it didn't seem to do any harm to it. Although that wasn't for the aged-plastic yellow look; it was for "I'm covered in dirt-and-soot" look so bleach may do nothing at all (but add some extra shine to it).

PixyJunket 06-28-05 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Save Ferris

Thank for the link! :up:

PixyJunket 06-28-05 01:50 PM

More than one of those suggestions involves placing in direct sunlight. *looks outside* Christ we've got plenty to go around.. I'm just not sure how comfortable I'd be leaving a $230 toy out in the sun.. and of course, Murphy's Law has decided that my apartment's balcony is covered by enough trees to keep sun from every getting there.

Save Ferris 06-28-05 02:24 PM

Sunlight fades everything over time (just look at any old car dashboard). The heat/humidity might hurt it. The UV light is what fades things. Can you keep cool air blowing on the unit while the sunlight does its thing?

Groucho 06-28-05 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Save Ferris
The UV light is what fades things.

If that's the case, just take it to a tanning parlor!

Save Ferris 06-28-05 02:28 PM

I have an old reptile light bulb ($60 'mercury vapor bulb') and that thing put out WICKED UV rays. You put your hand under it and you FEEL your skin get irritated--not HEAT, but the UV rays boring into it!

PixyJunket 06-28-05 03:29 PM

I got an interesting response elsewhere:


I have used this process on other plastics:

Step 1 Metal Polish
Step 2 Plastic Polish
Step 3 UV Resistant Protector.

The metal polish will remove a thin top layer of plastic. The plastic polish will then smooth out the top layer. Finally, the protectant with UV inhibitors will help prevent any future yellowing. I've also heard of using nail polish remover with acetone, or a car buffer in the place of the metal polish.

Just be sure to be careful of any decals or labels - anything that takes off a thin top layer of plastic will take off decals and labels as well.

Save Ferris 06-28-05 03:45 PM

Acetone or thinner will turn plastic into goo.

If you want to go the route of removing the top layer, why not sand it gently with some fine sandpaper.

PixyJunket 06-28-05 03:50 PM

Yeah it seemed a little risky to me too. I've got some more information coming in though from a mailing list that deals specifically with this system; unfortunately I can't access the sites from work but apparently there are several suggestions and solutions on cleaning them up. If I get something to work I'll post it in case anybody here has an SNES they'd like to spruce up, since it was the most notorious US system to yellow-up.

Mordred 06-28-05 04:03 PM

What is the system you've imported?

goLUCKY 06-28-05 04:36 PM

Don't you mean what hasn't he imported. ;)

PixyJunket 06-28-05 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Mordred
What is the system you've imported?

http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpics/random/duo-r.jpg

:hump:

PixyJunket 06-29-05 06:59 PM

Well, it came today.. sort of. I have to wait until tomorrow to pick it up at the post office. Torture I tell you, pure torture. After some snooping around this seems to be the best sounding method.. it came specifically from a forum dealing with these and more than one person reported success with it. Hopefully I can stop playing it long enough to do the cleaning!


Take the electronics out of the soon to be white case. take the 2 halves of the case and submerse them in a a bucket of common clothes washing soap like TIDE with color safe bleach. this should very diluted. soak for and hour and remove and scrub the surface with a tooth brush.. preferabley not yours.

Then next use a product called Clorox Gel. Its a mild bleach in a non abrasive form. intended for counter tops and such. put it on the tooth brush and scrub every where but do not sped time on the LOGO. Go around it for the msot part. It wont hurt the logo but its better to be safe than sorry. I was able to remove every bit of the yellow. I could not see any sign of age.

Outlaw 06-29-05 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket

oooooh nice! Doesn't look that yellow to me, but then again maybe its the lighting in the picture. Do you have Dracula X too?

Josh H 06-30-05 11:23 AM

I assumed that's not a picture of the one he received given that he posted it before posting that his was at the post office waiting to be picked up. :D

Unless it's the ebay picture of the one he ordered.

PixyJunket 06-30-05 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I assumed that's not a picture of the one he received given that he posted it before posting that his was at the post office waiting to be picked up. :D

Unless it's the ebay picture of the one he ordered.

Nope, that's mine (supposedly) but it wasn't from eBay. The controller was in worse condition (but less of a concern as I've got the black and orange controller from my other PC-Engine). I'll take my own picture when I get it so I can have "before & after" pictures. From all the discussion on the PC-Engine forum about various cleaning methods nobody had pictures to show off the results. It's been a rough day knowing that thing is at the post office and it's going to be really tough to put it down to go for my daily workout; I've been wanting one for YEARS but have always held off due to the cost for such an old system.. but one of my client's whose site I'm building offered to pay half of it for the work I'm doing and I took the offer.

PixyJunket 06-30-05 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Outlaw
oooooh nice! Doesn't look that yellow to me, but then again maybe its the lighting in the picture. Do you have Dracula X too?

You're right, but damn if I'm not incredibly anal when it comes to this stuff. Whenever I get a stack of NES games from eBay or the flea market the first order of business is taking out the isopropyl and Goo-Gone™, making the contacts shine and getting the case to look as new as possible. I've picked up discounted games before because they had writing or stickers on them and resold them for two-three times more after being clean up.

Oh, and I'll be on the look-out for Dracula X. It's worth every inflated dollar it goes for.

kenage 06-30-05 06:02 PM

I still have the US version of that. They made it black instead of the white so the color change isn't that bad.

PixyJunket 06-30-05 06:07 PM

Actually, the first PC-Engine Duo was black, that's was released here. The Duo-R and Duo-RX were white.

mookiemeister 06-30-05 06:55 PM

Why do some SNES turn yellow while others stay white?

PixyJunket 07-01-05 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by mookiemeister
Why do some SNES turn yellow while others stay white?

I'm not really sure. The last one I had was practically brown it had yellowed so badly. Luckily someone on this forum sold me a practically new-in-box SNES still in the plastic for $30 last year and it look BEAUTIFUL. It looks so damn good with my blue LED mod.

My hands still smell like bleach. :(

PixyJunket 07-01-05 03:57 PM

This post is dedicated to UAIOE.

http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpi...om/duopad1.jpg

http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpi...om/duopad2.jpg

kenage 07-01-05 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Actually, the first PC-Engine Duo was black, that's was released here. The Duo-R and Duo-RX were white.

I think black was the way to go. Any difference on the specs of the consoles? I know I could get the booster card to play the Japanese games but I dont know if that is worth it. I dont even think they sold the Duo in stores here in the US.

UAIOE 07-01-05 11:32 PM

I'll be damned...it worked!

But only for white consoles, right? I doubt a SNES would be a qualified candidate for such a procedure.

Mano 07-02-05 06:10 PM

Posting pics cuz I can.
 
Here's my U.S. P.C. Engine. What a great system.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2...002f6nk.th.jpg

PixyJunket 07-05-05 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by UAIOE
I'll be damned...it worked!

But only for white consoles, right? I doubt a SNES would be a qualified candidate for such a procedure.

Well, maybe. I don't think the bleach is really "whitening" the system per se, rather than breaking up and removing the dirt and stuff that caused the discoloration. The controller returned to its white color and the console itself returned to its very light beige color. It's quite possible to clean up a SNES with this process.. of course I no longer have a yellowed SNES to try it on.

http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpics/random/duor1.jpg

http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpics/random/duor2.jpg

PixyJunket 07-05-05 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by mano365
Here's my U.S. P.C. Engine. What a great system.

I see you have a Core Grafx II as well, I've got one too.

kenage 07-05-05 07:06 PM

Is the Core the add-on that boots the system specs to play some of the better games or was it needed to play the Japanese ones?

PixyJunket 07-06-05 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by kenage
Is the Core the add-on that boots the system specs to play some of the better games or was it needed to play the Japanese ones?

The Core Grafx and Core Grafx II were just re-releases of the original HuCard-only PC-Engine with standard RCA video and stereo output as opposed to RF video out. The CD add-on required a System Card that had the required software to boot CDs; there were two updated System Cards that had more RAM, Super System Card and Arcade Card. The Duo units did not need a system card (except for the Arcade Card, but there weren't many interesting games released for it).

The PC-Engine is definitely the most over-upgraded and over-accessorized game system of all time. There are nine versions of the main hardware (twelve if you count the US versions). Not to mention needing an add-on for any sort of multi-player.. separate RCA and memory add-ons (both combined into the CD unit later on). If you look over the original prices for this stuff in Japan you have to wonder how it practically aced the Famicom with how much money you needed to invest in it at the time.

kenage 07-06-05 04:57 PM

Thanks for the info Pixy. I did enjoy my Duo for what it was. I did have the orginal TurboGraphix and I traded it for the Duo. I didn't like that I needed a new multi-tap for the Duo because of the smaller plug. Playing Y's I & II almost made the whole system worthwhile all by itself. I also have the Turbo Express with the tv attachment.

Mano 07-06-05 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by kenage
I also have the Turbo Express with the tv attachment.


You just made me incredibly envious. I still have my original Turbo Grafx-16 with the CD add-on. I bought my pc-engine at a tag sale.

kenage 07-06-05 05:52 PM

I have a friend who still has his Turbo Grafx-16 with the CD add-on as well. He also bought the arcade card to play some of the good games for it. My Turbo Express still works but man does it eat batteries for lunch.

ChrisHicks 03-16-06 03:59 PM

having just bought a DUO R system with a lovely yellow controller I was hoping to see the before/after pics again and they're gone. is there anything you would recommend in getting the controller as white as possibe without damage?


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