Console gamers are vastly more popular (in terms of sales), thus they get more talk as more people buy and play

I love pc games, but I can't afford to buy a machine that can play them. :(
So I rely on my ps2 and older RTS games that I play on my laptop. In my case there is no snubage of the pc at all and if I had a better machine you can bet that I would be using it .

Does it seem strange to anyone else that the person who is calling us "adult adolescents" is most impressed with pretty pictures?

Not at all. Some people just prefer the cover of the book over the content.

Diversity is what pulls console gaming ahead of PC gaming in my opinion. You've got a plethora of quality games to choose from over an astounding quantity of varying genres. PCs top tier titles are almost exclusively limited to simulation, FPS, RTS or MMORPGs. That's not to say PCs are totally devoid of other genres, but for the most part other types of games on the PC are plagued with mediocrity. Personally I am not anti-PC gaming, but I have been largely unsuccessful finding games in genres I enjoy for the PC. I've found some great Japanese PC games over the last couple of years and have gotten into a Korean MMORPG, but they don't exactly take advantage of PC hardware as you so indicate makes the PC so vastly superior. They're fun and unique, which is all that's important to me.

yes they are more popular and do generate more sales - but thats because its much cheaper and J6P can afford it

It just seems like the hype and excitement surround console games is completely unwarranted. I can understand the hype / excitement regarding the next generation consoles like ps3, but the current stuff.. blah.

By the time the PS3/XBOX2 or whatever come out - PC graphics will be further ahead anyway - so that's a poor argument. Everyone knows PC will always beat console in the graphics department, if that's what you're into.

This whole post is antagonistic anway - why not just start a thread on a PC game and have people discuss it, than to try and start some pissing match about why there aren't enough PC gaming threads, using stupid and insulting terms like J6P towards console gamers!

-confused-

Some people just care about having fun playing games and don't care about graphics. You care about graphics and are thus rightly more impressed by PC games.

Different strokes for different folks.

So far your only basis for "blah" is the lack of 1600x1200 graphics. You do realize there are more important things in a game than graphics, right? There are plenty of NES/SNES games I'd rather play than current PC titles.

Your price comment is like saying a Honda is a crappy car because it doesn't cost as much as a Ferarri Enzo. So now we are J6P because we'd rather get a console and 10 games as opposed to a new graphics card and one game? What? In the what what?

It's also not probably not very accurate to compare 3 and 4 year old console systems to a brand spanking new PC. XBox was launched in November of 2001, PS2 in October of 2000. I would wager the difference between PC games from that period and XBox/PS2 games wouldn't be that drastic.

J6P? Wow, just.. wow.

The hype and excitement comes from FUN GAMES, not graphics. Maybe you can't personally relate to that, which is fine, but as you are obviously much superior to the average person (since you used the derogatory term "J6P") I find it inconceivable that you wouldn't understand that at its fundamental level. People still shove insane amounts of quarters into Pac-Man and Galaga machines worldwide; there are many people out there that still actively play their Ataris, NESes and Genesises; some people even consider older PC games like Starcon 2 and X-Com vastly more interesting than the newest version of the many spec-ops military games. I don't even think the point of your initial post was to compare the number of PC gamers to console gamers, it sounds like you're just trying to find an outlet to say that better graphics make better games and that anybody who doesn't agree is childish.

That about sums it up for me. I love pc games, can't wait to uprgade my comp. soon to play some of the new ones that just came out (HL2, Far Cry, WOW) but the statement that pc games are obviously superior to console games is just plain wrong. I enjoy both, the consoles have more variety IMO, but I like genres that are done better on the pc, ie FPS, RTS, MMORPG.

To actually answer the original question without being a hater: I play PC games EXCLUSIVELY, and play a lot of them. The reason I don't come in here looking for, or starting, threads is that I am a solo player. I like to play the solo campaigns, and when I'm done I move on to another game. If I get stuck or something, I usually check the user forums on the specific game website.

I don't do multiplayer, so I don't need to go looking for players; I don't care about scoring, so I don't need to know how many points everyone else is getting. I really have no interest in how far someone on the Internet has made it compared to where I am. It's just more of a personal pastime that doesn't really need to be communicated to others.

i cant believe how uptight people are getting about this. im not trying to degrade or demoralize anyone for playing playstation. And I dont think im insulting anyone by using the term JoeSixPack, im J6P myself and so are 99 % of the other people onthis board.

The point of my post was - I dont understand why it receives far more attention than PC games. I suppose you can say its different strokes for differnet folks and apples and oranges , but - theres just something about the entire console think - i just think its inferior to PC gaming. I know that it is. I have seen both, and there is no comparison. Clearly the console fanboys use the "well i like to have fun so get off my case" argument so that they can feel better about having a system that can not come close to competing with a computer.

I like to have fun and play fun games too. I like to play cards and monopoly. Big deal. Part of the hobby of video gaming is about pushing hardware and technology to the max and continuing to break new barriers. I am excited about the upcoming consoles and look forward to seeing what they can do. but for the current stuff, i just simply cant believe how much people are into it-

so, anyways. sorry to rant.

FLAME AWAY

Let's see. We've heard "consoles are for kiddies," "adult adolescents" and "fanboys" from you...what exactly ARE you trying to do?

We've explained it: graphics aren't everything. In fact, in my opinion, they are one of the least important aspects of gaming.

You don't agree with that. Fine, play PC games, knock yourself out.

I value the variety, the lack of (for the most part) patches and drivers, the lower cost and the comfort of playing in my living room. What I can't understand is why you think everyone should think about games the same way you do. What else is there to explain?

Well Numanoid, what about discussing games that are coming out or how good a game is? You don't have to just talk about where someone else is in a given game.

How's it superior for someone like me that doesn't like FPSs, RTSs, Sims, American RPGs, or MMORPGs, and primarily plays platformers, japanese rpgs, and action rpgs/adventure games (zelda e.g.)?

It comes down to what genres of games you like, and how much you care about graphics.

I don't like the genres PCs do better than consoles, love the genres that consoles do better than PCs, and put very little stock in graphics.

You're just the opposite.

Different strokes for different folks. There is no right or wrong on which is better. It's just a personal preference to which you have more fun with, as after all the only reason to play games is to have fun.

skiblet, if you start another thread like this, YOU WILL BE BANNED. All you do is argue without providing anything insightful, and all this thread does is instigate a war between PC and consoles as well as among the consoles.

Everyone else, if you'd like to start a new PC games thread to discuss the merits of PC games as well as comparisons to console games, then please feel free to do so. Any "this sucks" comment or "this is for kiddies" comment will result in further moderator actions.

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