I started playing my 3rd alt last night. My main is a level 38 mage that i play when my wife plays her level 38 palidan. Since the new baby has been here, my wife hasnt had time to play and ive had lots of extra time to play. So i started other characters. First i built up a tauren warrior to level 26 on PvP server, but kind of got stuck when i couldnt find anyone to team up with on hard quest at 4am. I set up my friends computer with the 10 day pass and two people at that house started playign alliance guys on my server so i built up a dwarf priest to level 18 in the last week. Priest is pretty fun; healing draws so much aggro, though. Last night i had to hold the baby from 2:30am til 4:30am, so my wife could not go nuts from lack of sleep, and my friend (10 day pass got him hooked and he bought the game) was playing an orc rogue so i started up an orc shaman, now level 6.
Im looking forward to when the new baby starts sleeping more so i can play my mage. only 2 levels til i get a horse and i still havent been to scarlet monistary or uldaman.

i'm 60 and i've yet to go to uldaman (w/ no real plans to do so as well).

i never went to Wailing Caverns. i did find out about Razor Fen East and West. i soloed East a little, killed a couple of bosses (i liked the one skeleton guy w/ the fans. lol, like a rock concert).

OK, here's another question. My tauren (lvl 15) had a quest from Thunder Bluff that took him to Silver Pines -- simple enough: run/fly to Orgrimmar, take zeppelin, run a little farther.

Now, is there any easy way (around that level) for my Human Paladin to get to Darkshore/another NightElf area? I've heard that there's good mining there and it'd be interesting to explore after working on the Dwarf/Human areas at my current level (16 or 17).

Assuming you've already tagged the gryph master in Loch Modan, you would have to go by foot to Menethil harbor. From Loch Modan follow directions to the Wetlands (where the harbor is located). It's about a 10 minute run and it's pretty safe; just watch out for some lvl 22-25 mobs. Once at the harbor make sure to tag the gryph master near the docks. Then take the boat to Darkshore and that's it!

Sounds good. I hadn't hit the Wetlands before and was worried that it might be as dangerous as my initial attempt to run from Stormwind to Iron Forge.

Another question -- is it just a bug or is there a level association with whether or not your route is mapped out? That is to say, if I'm a certain level and a region is designed for a higher level, will it not show up on the map or give me XP for discovering the areas? Or is this just a bug? It seems pretty random in a lot of places -- such as exploring spots of an area that I've already been in for a few hours plus.

Well just an update if any of you guys want to join up for quests. I am in Guild Eventide.

Frazier lvl 31 NE Hunter Skinning/Leatherworking
Barrett lvl 21 Human Rogue Skinning/Mining
Cynne lvl 24 Human Palladin Mining/Blacksmith
Draygon lvl 10 Dwarf Warrior Mining/Engineer

New territory you explore is just blank. Until you uncover a "landmark" spot. Then it will be revealed. It has nothing to do with level except when you're level 9 and discovering a new place with level 25 crocs and dying a quick death :lol:

Hey I used to be in Eventide!

I just quit the guild because I'm a very casual player now. Ciderhelm is a cool dude; now he's going nuts on making greek tragedy movies with Fraps :lol:

That shouldn't be a reason to quit, they don't seem to be worried about how often you do or don't play. I think we are up to 124 members, not sure how many were in it when you joined. Yeah Cider is cool and yeah I was an extra in one of his movies. They have been great though. I never would have joined a guild but haven't regretted it for a second.

I have a level 48 NE druid with a 9/11/31 PvP build, and a level 32 Tauren druid with a full resto build. After playing druids this long, I just can't play anything else. For PvP, druids are the master escape artists. A few days ago I got away from a level 60 on an epic mount that was trying to gank me. For 2-man teams, nothing beats a druid + rogue (both have ability to stealth, druid can heal). We're fantastic supporting characters, but we still have the ability to solo pretty easily. I have swiftshifting built up in my tree, which means I can nuke a mob to pull/DoT it, shift to bear to tank, shift to caster to heal myself or others, then shift again, and my mana loss is negligable. For PvE, I'm constantly in demand. Every time I'm in Ironforge I get slammed with requests to group.

The main problem with druids is that they require a lot of knowledge of the class to play. You basically need to know how to play a mage, priest, rogue, and warrior, and most importantly, need to know when to use each of those skills and when to run. There's a lot of crappy druids out there that do nothing but root and moonfire spam.

http://www.fileplanet.com/152335/150...re-Without-You
you have to check out that movie guys. still makes me weepy

how did u get away?
I just started a tauren Druid on a pvp server (lvl 15) and can use some tips.
Also, I can make swiftness potions and plan on giving them to my shamen. Does the swiftness potion stack with ghostwolf?

He had already hit me, so I couldn't mount. I shifted to cheetah, ran my butt off, hit a river and shifted to sea lion. He can't follow on his mount in water, so he shifted to sea lion as well (he was a tauren druid), followed for quite awhile, I jumped back onto land, went to cheetah, he followed on his mount again, I ran him around a big tree a couple times then hit the water again. By that time he gave up. It felt like something from an old Looney Toons cartoon.

It's hard to get away from other players as a druid until level 20 when you get cat form with dash or level 30 with travel form. Until then, I would recommend putting 5 points in your balance tree (regardless of what build you're doing) and put them all in Nature's Grasp. Hit that, instant roots when they hit you. When I was questing in Stranglethorn Vale, I did a lot of stealth hiding in cat form in bushes.

As for your swiftness potion question, can't help you with that one. I stopped using them after I got dash/travel form.

Looking into starting the game tonight, trying to make a choice on class. Played Daoc and liked the stealth classes, how does druid stealth work?

Not sure if everyone has seen this yet, but it is a pretty damn funny video.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post3070249

Pretty funny. I think everyone's been in a group where some dumbass get's everyone killed.

Edit: Apparently the video was a joke. Most of those guys had armor and weapons that were looted from that room. They are experts that just made a pretty funny video.

Yeah, I thought it was a dead giveaway when they asked Abduhl to 'crunch some numbers' on what their chances of suceeding was.:lol: Not to mention they are all in the same guild, and have some really nice gear. If you have already done UBRS it is pretty obvious it is a joke, but that just makes it even funnier.

Apparently they have 4-5 other videos like this. I can't wait to see them.

'God damnit Leeroy!'

Lets not forget how real newbies wouldn't be communicating through headsets or videotaping themselves, only hardcore people do that. It's still funny though.
The other videos aren't as funny. They do have one that's mildly amusing with them jumping off some high bridge edited together with "Learning to Fly" by Tom Petty.

Thanks Kristen.
any more advice on the druid talents that are geared toward pvp?
which talents are useless and should be avoided?
which are good talents to take besides Nature's Grasp.

Battlegrounds are now live on the test servers:

Alterac Valley 40 v 40 Battleground (levels 51-60)
Warsong Gulch 10 v 10 CTF Battleground (levels 21-60)

(The Warsong Gulch Battleground is split up by levels: 21-30, 31-40, and so forth).

Anybody tried these out yet?

If you're interested in stealth more than anything else, I would go with a rogue and not a druid. Druid stealth is great for sneaking through mobs to kill a boss or hiding from other players, but the cat form is incredibly gimped. It's not really worth using too often. The only time I really use it is against cloth-wearing casters (hits fast enough to interrupt/slow down spells).

My eventual level 60 build is below. For PvP, feral charge is great, Nature's Reach gives you a nice advantage, and my most used talent, Nature's Swiftness is amazing. You can't beat an instant full heal or instant roots on a mounted target. I won't have Innervate for another 3 points (goofed and put a couple points into feral instead of sticking with restoration), but I've heard it helps considerably. Any build should have 5/5 Improved Mark of the Wild. Many people consider it the best buff in the game, so you might as well have it as effective as possible. Most feral talents are fairly useless. The balance tree has some nice talents, but if you're going to concentrate completely on casting, you might as well play a mage. When I'm up against a rogue and stealthing by them in cat, sometimes I wish I had Faerie Fire Cat. Improved stealth would be nice too, but I'm pretty happy with this build.

Balance Talents (9 points)


Nature's Grasp - 1/1 point
While active, any time an enemy strikes the caster, they have a 35% chance to become afflicted by Entangling Roots (Rank 1). Only usable outdoors. 1 charge. Lasts 45 seconds.


Improved Nature's Grasp - 4/4 points
Increases the chance for your Nature's Grasp to entangle an enemy by 65%.


Nature's Reach - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your Wrath, Entangling Roots, Faerie Fire (caster form only), Moonfire, and Starfire spells by 20%.


Swiftshifting - 2/3 points
After leaving a shapeshift form, reduces the casting cost of the next shapeshift by 40% if used with 6 seconds.



Feral Combat Talents (11 points)


Ferocity - 5/5 points
Reduces the cost of your Maul, Swipe, Claw, and Rake abilities by 5 Rage or Energy.


Sharpened Claws - 3/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance while in Bear or Cat form by 3%.


Improved Bash - 2/2 points
Increases the stun duration of your Bash ability by 1 second.


Feral Charge - 1/1 point
Causes you to charge an enemy, stopping its movement and interrupting any spell being cast for 4 seconds.



Restoration Talents (31 points)


Improved Mark of the Wild - 5/5 points
Increases the effects of your Mark of the Wild spell by 35%.


Nature's Focus - 5/5 points
Gives you a 60% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting the Healing Touch or Regrowth spells.


Improved Healing Touch - 4/5 points
Reduces the mana cost of your Healing Touch spell by 12%.


Gift of Nature - 1/1 point
Increases the effect of your Healing Touch, Rejuvenation, Regrowth, and Tranquility spells by 5%.


Reflection - 5/5 points
Allows 15% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.


Improved Rejuvenation - 2/5 points
Increases the effect of your Rejuvenation spell by 6%.


Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Nature spell becomes an instant cast spell.


Subtlety - 3/5 points
Reduces the threat generated by your healing spells by 12%.


Improved Regrowth - 4/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your Regrowth spell by 40%.


Innervate - 1/1 point
Increases the target's Mana regeneration by 400% and allows 100% of the target's Mana regeneration to continue while casting. Lasts 20 seconds.

hmm only 40 vs 40 and 10 vs 10?
will there multiple instances of these?

Just started a gnome mage last night on illidan (pvp server). I have some friends who play on the server and they needed a mage. Been reading up on mage stuff, trying to decide what to go with eventually for group pvp. Probably should play a little more before making those decisions though, but thinking frost/arcane from what I have read.