PSP to be $350
09-29-04 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by joshd2012
I can't believe you all believe this.
Since when is anything in Japan priced 38,624 yen, instead of 38,500?
Its more fake than Pamala Anderson's boobs.
I can't believe you all believe this.
Since when is anything in Japan priced 38,624 yen, instead of 38,500?
Its more fake than Pamala Anderson's boobs.
As for the yen price, it's not odd. New Japanese laws require tax to be included in the price, so Sony's really charging only 35,000 yen or something.
09-30-04 | 12:54 AM
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Everyday I see parents drop $300-500 dollars on an Ipod at my store with no problem at all. I don't see a $350 price tag hurting the PSP that much.
1. Listen to music (when walking, jogging, running, working, etc) with a battery life of twelve hours with formats like MP3 and AAC.
2. Use it as a portable hard drive.
I bought an iPod because I want to store all my music (over 12GB worth) on something that I can bring anywhere. The iPod is light weight (six ounces) and I can take it anywhere I please. And since music is a big part of my life, the iPod is simply amazing.
I do not want to pay $400 for a portable gaming system. I bought my XBOX, with two (shitty) games, a year of X-Box Live (with headset), and a DVD remote for $250 back at Christmas. I think that is a much better deal than what the PSP has to offer.
09-30-04 | 02:13 AM
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I don't think the ipod is a good comparison to this.
Granted the PSP may sell well regardless of price, but it is going after a different type of consumer. History has shown that video gamers in general are cheap. They will sell a few hundred thousand at launch to the hardcore gamer types, but for this device to sell the millions of units Sony needs it will have to appeal to a wide audience. I just don't see a handheld with a price over $200 doing that. It will depend how Sony markets it I guess. If they can make it hip like the ipod it will probably sell at any price. Not sure that can be pulled off with a gaming system though. Honestly, I'm not even sure Nintendo can pull it off with the DS and that may be half the price of the PSP.
Granted the PSP may sell well regardless of price, but it is going after a different type of consumer. History has shown that video gamers in general are cheap. They will sell a few hundred thousand at launch to the hardcore gamer types, but for this device to sell the millions of units Sony needs it will have to appeal to a wide audience. I just don't see a handheld with a price over $200 doing that. It will depend how Sony markets it I guess. If they can make it hip like the ipod it will probably sell at any price. Not sure that can be pulled off with a gaming system though. Honestly, I'm not even sure Nintendo can pull it off with the DS and that may be half the price of the PSP.
09-30-04 | 03:04 AM
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IMO... PSP will be universally be seen as what it's primary function was designed for... Handheld gaming.
How is Nokia N-Gage doing in this area btw?...
Hard to get a parent.. or anyone outside of hardcore.. (which is probably 80% of this forum) to be convinced of purchasing a handheld.. let's even say at 249.00, when they can purchase a current home console.. for relaxation and long gaming.. at close to 1/2 price..
OR...
even a next gen console for close to the 300 price. IPOD is universal... MP3 players are something that almost everyone can identify with... Game systems.. a bit more defined area... and I just don't see how at anything over 200 even, the demand will be there until 2 or 3 years into it when the price point falls...
Nintendo DS wins .. if PSP comes out at anything over 200.
I'm out.
How is Nokia N-Gage doing in this area btw?...
Hard to get a parent.. or anyone outside of hardcore.. (which is probably 80% of this forum) to be convinced of purchasing a handheld.. let's even say at 249.00, when they can purchase a current home console.. for relaxation and long gaming.. at close to 1/2 price..
OR...
even a next gen console for close to the 300 price. IPOD is universal... MP3 players are something that almost everyone can identify with... Game systems.. a bit more defined area... and I just don't see how at anything over 200 even, the demand will be there until 2 or 3 years into it when the price point falls...
Nintendo DS wins .. if PSP comes out at anything over 200.
I'm out.
09-30-04 | 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by NitroJMS
Everyday I see parents drop $300-500 dollars on an Ipod at my store with no problem at all. I don't see a $350 price tag hurting the PSP that much.
Everyday I see parents drop $300-500 dollars on an Ipod at my store with no problem at all. I don't see a $350 price tag hurting the PSP that much.
If the PSP played standard DVDs this would be a different conversation.
09-30-04 | 07:28 AM
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Sony is nuts if they think they I am gonna pay $350 dollars for a handheld system. Most people who play handhelds are kids....they will buy the DS. Man I thought that the DS was expensive at 150...that ain't even half the price of the PSP!!! Sony is really nuts if they think people are going to REBUY movies to watch on this thing!!! What are they going to charge for the movies --- $50.00???
I am at a loss for words.
wlj
Sony is nuts if they think they I am gonna pay $350 dollars for a handheld system. Most people who play handhelds are kids....they will buy the DS. Man I thought that the DS was expensive at 150...that ain't even half the price of the PSP!!! Sony is really nuts if they think people are going to REBUY movies to watch on this thing!!! What are they going to charge for the movies --- $50.00???
I am at a loss for words.
wlj
09-30-04 | 03:46 PM
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* It's 2 and 1/3 times the price of it's nearest competitor.
* It's got a severe battery problem.
* It forces you to rebuy/rent any movie you may already own, if you want to see it 'on-the-go'.
* It forces you to rebuy/rent any game you may already own, if you want to play it 'on-the-go'.
Is there anybody else who forsees a Dreamcast-like successful launch, followed by a Dreamcast-like drying up of sales when these facts actually sink in?
* It's got a severe battery problem.
* It forces you to rebuy/rent any movie you may already own, if you want to see it 'on-the-go'.
* It forces you to rebuy/rent any game you may already own, if you want to play it 'on-the-go'.
Is there anybody else who forsees a Dreamcast-like successful launch, followed by a Dreamcast-like drying up of sales when these facts actually sink in?
09-30-04 | 06:47 PM
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The difference between this and the iPod, is that the cost of the PSP is only the beginning of the expenses related to it. The iPod "media" is free or low cost. To even start using a PSP you have to buy a $30-$50 game, and that's only one game. That's not counting things like memory cards and movies and other accessories that will be "optional" but end up being bought anyway.
09-30-04 | 06:49 PM
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The PSP will come with the following accesories:
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
09-30-04 | 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by joshd2012
The PSP will come with the following accesories:
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
The PSP will come with the following accesories:
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
Those pack-ins don't really matter in the end, what matters is the price-performance-features combination.
09-30-04 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by joshd2012
The PSP will come with the following accesories:
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
The PSP will come with the following accesories:
AC Charger
Headphones with remote control
Case
That's atleast, what, $30 in accessories included?
Sold
09-30-04 | 11:12 PM
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Actually thinking about it, the included case is a very good idea. The PSP has a very large screen and it would suck to put a big scratch down the middle of it while carrying it around.
The headphones with remote sounds a lot like the included headphones and remote that came with the Sony PDAs. Nice if you are using the PSP for music, but you will also need to purchase a large memory stick Duo to save the music files to.
The headphones with remote sounds a lot like the included headphones and remote that came with the Sony PDAs. Nice if you are using the PSP for music, but you will also need to purchase a large memory stick Duo to save the music files to.
10-01-04 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by darkside
Actually thinking about it, the included case is a very good idea. The PSP has a very large screen and it would suck to put a big scratch down the middle of it while carrying it around.
Actually thinking about it, the included case is a very good idea. The PSP has a very large screen and it would suck to put a big scratch down the middle of it while carrying it around.
10-01-04 | 12:13 AM
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Sony plans power restrictions on PSP games
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4667
Interesting method... Thoughts?
Concerns over battery life become a problem for developers
Developers working on PlayStation Portable titles will have to ensure that their games don't over-tax the battery on the device or risk falling foul of Sony's technical guidelines, according to sources working on games for the system.
Draft guidelines sent to developers, which will eventually evolve into the technical requirements checklist (TRC) for the system, are alleged to include a demand that games should not exceed a certain level of power consumption.
This apparent response to concerns over the battery life of the system - which is quoted as around 10 hours for music and two hours for movie playback - places the problem firmly in the developers' court.
Sony apparently intends to include a "battery emulator" as part of the PSP development tool set, which will evaluate the projected battery use of a game over an extended period of play. Titles are likely to be judged based on how many hours of play a single battery charge can provide.
However, as yet it's not been decided what an acceptable level of power consumption actually is, with the draft documentation apparently leaving out hard figures for Sony's battery life projections in games. Some developers we spoke to speculated that the firm may be waiting to see what kind of figures are achieved by headline titles such as Metal Gear Acid and Gran Turismo 4 before "drawing a line in the sand" on battery life.
While the PSP has been generally praised for being exceptionally easy to develop for, this new restriction will add a layer of complexity to the development process - and will almost certainly rule out the type of disc streaming technology which has become commonplace in PlayStation 2 titles such as Grand Theft Auto 3, as constantly accessing the disc in this manner would seriously impair battery life.
Developers working on PlayStation Portable titles will have to ensure that their games don't over-tax the battery on the device or risk falling foul of Sony's technical guidelines, according to sources working on games for the system.
Draft guidelines sent to developers, which will eventually evolve into the technical requirements checklist (TRC) for the system, are alleged to include a demand that games should not exceed a certain level of power consumption.
This apparent response to concerns over the battery life of the system - which is quoted as around 10 hours for music and two hours for movie playback - places the problem firmly in the developers' court.
Sony apparently intends to include a "battery emulator" as part of the PSP development tool set, which will evaluate the projected battery use of a game over an extended period of play. Titles are likely to be judged based on how many hours of play a single battery charge can provide.
However, as yet it's not been decided what an acceptable level of power consumption actually is, with the draft documentation apparently leaving out hard figures for Sony's battery life projections in games. Some developers we spoke to speculated that the firm may be waiting to see what kind of figures are achieved by headline titles such as Metal Gear Acid and Gran Turismo 4 before "drawing a line in the sand" on battery life.
While the PSP has been generally praised for being exceptionally easy to develop for, this new restriction will add a layer of complexity to the development process - and will almost certainly rule out the type of disc streaming technology which has become commonplace in PlayStation 2 titles such as Grand Theft Auto 3, as constantly accessing the disc in this manner would seriously impair battery life.
10-01-04 | 12:28 AM
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Kind of kills much of the advantage of the disc media. Games with lots of FMV or streaming audio while playing will be limited.
Wonder how long you will be able to play with the Wi-Fi on?
The DS is only getting 6-10 hours out of its system on a charge (the 6 probably being with the Wi-Fi on) so I can only imagine how much worse the PSP will be. I guess time will tell.
Wonder how long you will be able to play with the Wi-Fi on?
The DS is only getting 6-10 hours out of its system on a charge (the 6 probably being with the Wi-Fi on) so I can only imagine how much worse the PSP will be. I guess time will tell.
10-01-04 | 04:54 PM
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Re: Sony plans power restrictions on PSP games
Concerns over battery life become a problem for developers
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This apparent response to concerns over the battery life of the system - which is quoted as around 10 hours for music and two hours for movie playback - places the problem firmly in the developers' court.
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This apparent response to concerns over the battery life of the system - which is quoted as around 10 hours for music and two hours for movie playback - places the problem firmly in the developers' court.
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What about for playing games?
10-01-04 | 05:00 PM
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Rumor right now is that the PSP will play games for 8 hours using the specs that Sony demanded game developers to meet (see article above).
And, for you Nintendo Lapdogs, the reason I mentioned the included accesories is to show a difference between the systems, not to justify a price that was rumored by Nintendo fan sites. Pixy has always been tight on the teet of Nintendo, but its good to see some others jump in the pile.
And, for you Nintendo Lapdogs, the reason I mentioned the included accesories is to show a difference between the systems, not to justify a price that was rumored by Nintendo fan sites. Pixy has always been tight on the teet of Nintendo, but its good to see some others jump in the pile.
10-01-04 | 05:00 PM
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Re: Re: Sony plans power restrictions on PSP games
Originally posted by sdcrym
What about for playing games?
What about for playing games?
10-01-04 | 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by joshd2012
Rumor right now is that the PSP will play games for 8 hours using the specs that Sony demanded game developers to meet (see article above).
And, for you Nintendo Lapdogs, the reason I mentioned the included accesories is to show a difference between the systems, not to justify a price that was rumored by Nintendo fan sites. Pixy has always been tight on the teet of Nintendo, but its good to see some others jump in the pile.
Rumor right now is that the PSP will play games for 8 hours using the specs that Sony demanded game developers to meet (see article above).
And, for you Nintendo Lapdogs, the reason I mentioned the included accesories is to show a difference between the systems, not to justify a price that was rumored by Nintendo fan sites. Pixy has always been tight on the teet of Nintendo, but its good to see some others jump in the pile.