Played the demo...It's certainly living up to the hype imo. Only downside is the game is kinda dark (but the best fps graphics on ps2), and the controls are a little too loose (sniping is difficult). But in all, an excellent game. Seems like it won't be a halo killer, but a great experience and worthy of the being one of the great console fps.

The sneaking up melee kills are great as are the enemy designs, weapons (2nd fire!), and atmosphere is great

No jump! There is no freaking jump button. I declare the game to be lame!

Plus it has shoddy controls.

I got to say I do like the dirty urban look of the game. I just can't stand the PS2 control pad for a FPS. Maybe as I get used to it I will have a easer time with it. I also hope they have more open levels in the game. What I played seemed to be all a small path you followed.

The auto lock on was way over done. I'd move my cross hair like 2 feet from a guy and it would move over real fast and lock onto him. Course the control and things like that are most of the time the last thing to be worked on and fixed up. So I hope they work fix them up.

So if this game has a good story and stuff I'm looking forward to it.

So when does this game come out?

PS. Relax namja I'm just teasing josh a little.

Game comes out Nov 2.

Controls are fine, standard fire / movement. I don't even remember auto-lock, but I haven't tried single player.

Sniping is harder, but its better that way.

No jumping for this game is better. I can't stand those quake style Frogger fests. Instead of jump there is an action button, where it will leap over small walls, pillars, etc.

This game will be more team oriented than most other fps.

They have fixed the biggest problem from the beta, hit detection, so it should be good.

Trust me, this game's awesome, well mutiplayer anyways.