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ME2 06-12-04 11:16 PM

EB Had PSP in Their Computers for $300
 
Something interesting to talk about. That's it.

darkside 06-12-04 11:24 PM

$300 with a 2-3 hour battery life is not a good start for Sony. Not sure this device will find a market.

I'm not convinced the DS is a great idea either, but it will probably be half the price and have a 10 hour battery life.

jeffdsmith 06-12-04 11:54 PM

I'll just buy a portable dvd player, thanks. ;)

menaz 06-13-04 04:32 AM

If thats going to be the price, Sony will now exactly where to go from there, they just have to follow the footprints left behind by Nokia :(.

joshd2012 06-13-04 10:24 AM

1) The $300 price is not even what most industry analyst are predicting.

2) The 2-3 hour battery life only applies to watching UMD movies. Gaming will be closer to 8 hours.

jeffdsmith 06-13-04 11:42 AM


Originally posted by joshd2012
1) The $300 price is not even what most industry analyst are predicting.

What are they predicting? $200? I haven't been keeping up on this stuff. Links?

Thanks.

Jtnguyen12 06-13-04 04:58 PM

CHeckout Gamespot NEW!

PSP going be $500 ;)

TheMadMonk 06-13-04 05:33 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they come out at $300 ($299). There are talks of LCD screen shortages, and there are probably enough people willing to pay that amount. Remember the PS2. Enough people were willing to pay $299 for that, making it basically impossible to get at launch, and it had mostly average to terrible launch titles.

jrutz 06-13-04 06:23 PM

Did anyone see this?

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/groups/psp/

Games already in the system, at $49.99 each. Interestingly, Advent Children is listed as a launch title.

Jeremy

DVD Josh 06-14-04 09:21 AM

I would have taken the plunge at $200, MAYBE $250 if it came with something, but not $300. That's way too high for a portable.

Incidentally, what did Lynx come out at?

Trevor 06-14-04 09:27 AM

Pretty sure the Lynx was 149.99 at launch.

I bought one at TRU soon after launch. Went through the line with a Lynx (packaged with California Games and a AC adapter if I recall) and one game, probably Warbirds or Checkered Flag. Cashier rang them up and the total was like $60, as the Lynx was somehow ringing up at like $35. I bit my tongue, paid quickly, and dashed to my car. Looking back, I probably should have come back in and bought more, then started up ebay or this forum to trade the extras, after keeping what would eventually turn into 4 linked Lynxes for myself.

chanster 06-14-04 11:04 AM

I had a Game Gear back in the day. I could score about 200 points per game on Joe Montana Football.

neiname 06-14-04 12:23 PM

$189 for the Lynx at launch.

http://www.atari-explorer.com/lynx.html

jeffdsmith 06-14-04 01:55 PM

So, what are "industry analyst" predicting again?

Ralph Wiggum 06-14-04 02:52 PM


Originally posted by jeffdsmith
So, what are "industry analyst" predicting again?
The CNN/Money guy said $500.

Seriously.

DVD Josh 06-14-04 03:16 PM


Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
The CNN/Money guy said $500.

Seriously.

Instant doom for the PSP. With the base the GBA/SP already has at $100 (or less) a pop, there is no way PSP breaks significantly into the handheld market. No wonder Nintendo isn't worried. They shouldn't be.

Zodo 06-14-04 03:59 PM

I'm seriously thinking about getting the Nintendo DS. Not only is it backwards compatible with teh GBA, but it also will have a decent battery life and lots of new features that have a lot of potential (touch screen, voice recognition). The price of the DS will probably be at least half that of the PSP too.

tenaciousdave 06-14-04 07:58 PM


Originally posted by joshd2012
1) The $300 price is not even what most industry analyst are predicting.

2) The 2-3 hour battery life only applies to watching UMD movies. Gaming will be closer to 8 hours.


1) Most industry analysts are saying between $300-$500. Most retail outlets are going the same direction.

2) It doesn't make sense that movies would drain battery life faster, as a game would push the system much harder than a movie. A game requires all parts of a system, CPU, GPU, disc drive, etc. where as the UMD disc movies should really only use the disc drive and some minor CPU power.


P.S. I don't care what PSPINSIDER.com claimed. They have zero reliabilty in my book.

jeffdsmith 06-14-04 08:17 PM


Originally posted by tenaciousdave

2) It doesn't make sense that movies would drain battery life faster, as a game would push the system much harder than a movie. A game requires all parts of a system, CPU, GPU, disc drive, etc. where as the UMD disc movies should really only use the disc drive and some minor CPU power.



I'm guessing the thought is that a movie must spin the disc constantly where as a game can load the information into the RAM.

joshd2012 06-14-04 09:26 PM


Originally posted by jeffdsmith
I'm guessing the thought is that a movie must spin the disc constantly where as a game can load the information into the RAM.
Bingo. The spinning disc uses a lot more energy than the CPU ever will. The less the game developer has to pull of the disc during the game, the longer the battery will last.

As for PSPInsider, they are the best news source out there right now, and haven't gone wrong yet. Most people are looking at $200-$250 price range. $300 would be a death sentence and Sony knows that. They even admitted to taking a loss on the system. I'm guessing $200 personally.

tenaciousdave 06-14-04 10:52 PM


Originally posted by jeffdsmith
I'm guessing the thought is that a movie must spin the disc constantly where as a game can load the information into the RAM.
That does make sense. Although with the graphic quality they're going for with the games, I don't think the amount of RAM would help it enough to extend the battery by 100% or more. I could very well be wrong on that though.

When I've opened the tray on my Playstation 1 or Gamecube, the game disc was always spinning.

Never checked on my Xbox or PS2 for obvious reasons.



BAH! I give up, I'm just going to wait until closer to launch when some final specs are released. All this trying to imagine how a piece of hardware will theoretically function makes my brain hurt.

darkside 06-15-04 02:10 PM

My sony mindisc player can last 50 hours on a single AA because it minimizes the spining of the disc. I'm sure the PSP will do the same thing. 8 hours still seems far fetched though. The Clie has a similar big screen and only lasts about 4-5 hours with no discs spinning at all.

The PSP will have a lot more processor power being used plus the UMDs spinning. Its going to have to have a huge Li-Polymer battery to last 8 hours. Maybe the 8 hours will be with the screen backlight off.

Draven 06-15-04 03:06 PM


Originally posted by joshd2012
Most people are looking at $200-$250 price range. $300 would be a death sentence and Sony knows that. They even admitted to taking a loss on the system. I'm guessing $200 personally.
No way. No way in hell. It does too much to sell at that price point.

It'll be at least $300.

Noonan 06-15-04 04:15 PM


Originally posted by Draven
No way. No way in hell. It does too much to sell at that price point.

It'll be at least $300.


If it is, it will follow the path of every other handheld machine that has gone up against Nintendo. As much as I want one, I wouldn't pay a penny more that $199 for it when SP's are $99.

PalmerJoss 06-16-04 03:58 PM

As much as I'd like to own one, anything more than a $200 price tag and you can count me out. I truly believe that as cool as it looks, the price tag may ultimately kill it despite the nice looking games.


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