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Old 02-17-04 | 11:22 AM
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480p ?

I just bought a 65" mitsubishi hdtv (model 65611). I've got my xbox hooked up through the hdtv pak into component input 1. I've found this list of xbox games that all are listed at 480p but all I can get out of mine is 480i. Any ideas?

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=100055

tried blinx, transworld snowboading, amped, etc.... all listed as 480p but only playing as 480i on my tube
Old 02-17-04 | 11:37 AM
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Did you go into your Settings from the main menu after connecting the HD pack? You will have new choices under Video I belive, you will need to set what resolutions your display will handle 408p/720p/1080i. When you start a game it will default to the highest resolution that the game/tv will handle.
Old 02-17-04 | 03:58 PM
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shuike, I beleive your tv will NOT display a 720p setting so just setup 480p, and then 1080i, and try out AMped 2, hoepfully your set will upconvert 720p, to 1080i, if so you are in for a treat
Old 02-17-04 | 05:33 PM
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Edison that was exactly it! 480p is now no problem at all!

corky, you're right that my particular tv will not display 720p I have 3 component inputs. Component 1 and 2 are 480i/p and Component 3 is DTV input marked 480i/480p/1080i There is a note in my manual that reads like this:

"Compatible DTV signals are SDTV 480i/480p, and HDTV 1080i. All other DTV signals, such as 720p, need to be converted by the DTV receiver to one of the compatible signal types."

Basically my HDTV cable box is there which gives me 1080i HDTV and my DVD is on component 1 and my xbox on component 2 (both running 480p). I'm not too disappointed though as 480p looks fantastic compared to my old 34" S-video I had just a month ago

THANK YOU both for helping me get set up! Edison I had also not set up the xbox audio under settings yet so hadn't even turned on 5.1 yet .... *embarrased*
Old 02-17-04 | 06:41 PM
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so shuki, will you tv at least upconvert 720p, or does it only downconvert, because if you think 480p looks good, you will pass out when you see 720p
Old 02-18-04 | 08:49 AM
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mitsu tvs don't do anything with a 720p signal. no upconversion. no downconversion. just a blank screen or a garbled mess.
Old 02-18-04 | 10:38 AM
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even if they have a built in HD tuner? I've just not tried with mine as I only have one 1080i input. the other component inputs are 480i/480p and my hdtv is coming into the 1080i input. Bummer if it won't do it
Old 02-18-04 | 10:42 AM
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There aren't tons of games that do 720p/1080i, so I wouldn't worry too much.

You can always switch out the cable when you want to play a 1080i game.
Old 02-18-04 | 10:46 AM
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and honestly, 480p in 16:9 mode friggin rocks! I am simply stunned. Not gonna let 780p or 1080i greed spoil my little 480p party here lol
Old 02-18-04 | 11:02 AM
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The only problem is when you have multiple game systems. You then have to decide what system gets the best input. Luckily the PS2 and Gamecube only do 480p, so we're safe for now.
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How do you really know that your TV is displaying 480i, 480p, 720p, or 1080i? Does your TV tells you what signal it is getting and what signal it is displaying?
Old 02-18-04 | 01:20 PM
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flip, it should I know on the panny lcd, you have to go to info, and it shows what is being sent to the tv, it is fairly obiovous by just looking at the signal

480i, looks like crap
480p less crap
720p/1080i is amazing

all IMO
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I have a Sony KP61HS30 - what can I get out of it in terms of xbox hi-res? Anyone know? What's the setup I need?
Old 02-18-04 | 02:06 PM
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I have a Sony KP61HS30 - what can I get out of it in terms of xbox hi-res? Anyone know? What's the setup I need?
I downloaded the owner's manual for your TV and gave it a quick look. Looks like your TV has 2 component video inputs (in the VIDEO 5/6 input jacks). Both of the jacks support either 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. 720p will be upconverted to 1080i.

My Sony direct-view CRT does the same with its component inputs. It sure is nice to have component inputs that accept all 4 signal types! So all you need to do is hook up component video cables from your xbox to either of the 2 inputs on your TV, enable 480p, 720p, and 1080i on your xbox dashboard, and you'll get the best possible resolution for all of your xbox games.
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Originally posted by IamFlip
How do you really know that your TV is displaying 480i, 480p, 720p, or 1080i? Does your TV tells you what signal it is getting and what signal it is displaying?
Some TVs display the signal it's receiving onscreen. Other TVs require you to go into the service menu to check this (Sony TVs are like this).
Old 02-18-04 | 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Joshic
Some TVs display the signal it's receiving onscreen.
that's what mine does the first few seconds or I can hit a format button on the remote and it'll bring it up onscreen.
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Originally posted by Joshic
Some TVs display the signal it's receiving onscreen. Other TVs require you to go into the service menu to check this (Sony TVs are like this).
Anybody knows how to get to the service menu for Sony HDTV's? And what to change to display input's signal?
Old 02-18-04 | 08:11 PM
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flip, if you do not know what you are doing(which sounds like the case) DO NOT even try to get into the service menu, if you change even one little thing you tv could be ruined for ever, the service menu is for professionals(or like minded) only, there really is no reason to know what signal you are getting, what do you want to know what signal is, your cable is going to be 480i, your ps2, GC, Xbox is 480i(unless you have component cables, and have every thing hooked up correctly, and the game supports it), your dvd are 480i(unless you are running them ona progressive scan player, with pro. scan turned on), and HD is going to be 1080i or upconverted 1080i on your tv.

there you go I just saved you from ruining your tv , if you still would like to know how to get into the service menu, which I strongly urge you not to do, go to avsforum.com and make sure you write everything down on a piece of paper before you change anything, and if you decided to tweak your tv in the service menu, based on someone elses tweaks, just remember even if they have the same make an model as your tv the tweaks may not always work as well on your tv
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Originally posted by Joshic
I downloaded the owner's manual for your TV and gave it a quick look. Looks like your TV has 2 component video inputs (in the VIDEO 5/6 input jacks). Both of the jacks support either 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. 720p will be upconverted to 1080i.

My Sony direct-view CRT does the same with its component inputs. It sure is nice to have component inputs that accept all 4 signal types! So all you need to do is hook up component video cables from your xbox to either of the 2 inputs on your TV, enable 480p, 720p, and 1080i on your xbox dashboard, and you'll get the best possible resolution for all of your xbox games.
sweet... thanks.

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